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Been trying to form my opinion on what DMT intelligences are
    #19348645 - 12/30/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This has had me extremely curious ever since I had my first very powerful DMT experience a couple weeks ago.  I've been trying to formulate my own opinion or possible theories on what it is and what the "intelligences" people seem to come in contact with might be, or what the "information" people seem to behold in the trip might be...

It struck me today that the most common theories you hear of are regarding *external* dimensions and/or intelligences.  To me this seems much less likely, for obvious reasons, than the possibility that we are encountering *internal* intelligences.

This made me think of something I've always been fascinated by.  As one example, when you get a cut, your body heals it for you.  You don't need to sit and think "heal...heal...".  "You" completely forget about it and look down a week later and it is healed.  How did I completely forget something, yet the entire time I was busy healing it??  Clearly there is a separate intelligence, almost an entirely different being that exists within our bodies, adjacent to the conscious thoughts of our minds.

What if, somehow, DMT allows us access into the parts of our brain that are very much "alien intelligences", compared to our routine, waking consciousness?  Extremely foreign, utterly alien, and yet within us and potentially accessible...  This seems much more likely than encountering beings from other dimensions.  I believe this is my new theory/opinion on what could *possibly* be taking place during a DMT experience. 

I could even imagine how, if we were to be able to somehow access these separate intelligences in our own mind, our subconscious minds may be able to identify it as a living intelligence.  Seeing as this intelligence IS life, it is what keeps us alive (breathing, fighting bacteria, healing wounds, firing hormones at key points during our development...), I could imagine how our subconscious might *understand it* as a living entity and anthropomorphize it, despite it having no real "shape" of its own. 

The visions of alien creatures could very well just be hallucinations of a drug-tweaked brain, or they could be directly tied to the sense of *intelligence* people feel emanating from them.  Contacting something so essentially "made of life" might register, in some innate, subconscious way, as "LIFE", and our minds then assign it a humanoid body, or the body of some other living creature we more typically associate with beings which are alive.  This could act simply as something to "show" to our conscious brain as the source of the intelligence, something we might be able to actually make sense of.

Any opinions on this?  Does anyone see where I'm coming from with this?  Or was I just going slightly out of my mind from boredom at work today when I began thinking of this?


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.


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Re: Been trying to form my opinion on what DMT intelligences are [Re: Shpongle1]
    #19348705 - 12/30/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds about right to me. Check out archetypes of the collective consciousness, Carl Jung.

Others like tim leary and bob wilson had similiar views about encounters with "higher" intelligences, if your interested i would check out some books by these gents


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Re: Been trying to form my opinion on what DMT intelligences are [Re: hTx]
    #19348710 - 12/30/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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hTx said:
Sounds about right to me. Check out archetypes of the collective consciousness, Carl Jung.

Others like tim leary and bob wilson had similiar views about encounters with "higher" intelligences, if your interested i would check out some books by these gents




Yeah, I was thinking a lot about the collective unconscious and Carl Jung as I was pondering this at work.  I told myself I need to read more about it because it is an awesome idea.  Thanks for reminding me.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.


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Re: Been trying to form my opinion on what DMT intelligences are [Re: Shpongle1]
    #19348778 - 12/30/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am interested in the information that exist all around us. I see information all around us it is very Interesting to conceptualize that this may be in a sense controlled by other entities, do you think your wound healing is in their control or are you using this as a symbol/metaphor of intelligences within our selves. This I am finding difficult to put in words as usual. I can see that our bodies have intelligence built into ourselves that the expeiriencer of the body does not control. I find the concept of internal intelligences to apply more to built in intelligences within the mind we experience and have thought of the body healing as a result of something more minor thAan what these entities do. DMT is said to be released at sleep ushering us into and likely maintaining our dream life. The dream realm I can see their work in. Ayahusca seems to correlate sound with creation of reality through visions likely taught by entities. I think people practicing the use of DMT for a long time have much to offer. To sum up I think our body heals via preprogrammed information by what created us Also I think our mind in the same way has preprogrammed information and is maintained by internal intelligences which are actual beings even perhaps ancestors. So glad you posted


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