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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19347641 - 12/30/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sonamdrukpa said:
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I earn below poverty level wages, have 4 dependents and yet I get no subsidies




You are doing something wrong.  I don't know what but you are.




no, I'm not doing anything wrong. I was unemployed for 5 years, same
situation and I was ineligible for any sort of benefits, benefits I've
paid into since I was 12 years old, I was never given a reason other than
one person said I should sell the shit that I have and live on that




What I meant was that something is going wrong with how you are applying for shit.  I don't know what it is, but the subsidies cover pretty much everything for people close to or below the poverty line.  I would talk with your insurance provider, and I would get on the ACA website help chat line.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19347644 - 12/30/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He owns too much property and they want him to sell it


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19347663 - 12/30/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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He owns too much property and they want him to sell it




My uncle had this piece of land. he was a hoarder. the place was beyond condemned. there must have been 20 to 30 broken down cars in there. the house was 2 stories but was filled from TOP to BOTTOM with TRASH (or treasure depending on prespective).

he sold it for a million. end of story. smart guy. :thumbup:

(Note: This was my uncle, and it's not my money. I'm happy for him.)


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Re: We live through our hands! [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19348005 - 12/30/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: nooneman]
    #19348027 - 12/30/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't want to defend Obamacare or advocate for it. I just want to say what my literal experience with it has been. There's a lot of debate about it, but I actually signed up for it, and here's what it was like. For the record, I opposed healthcare reform, so there's that.

First, I didn't have healthcare before. I had applied in the past (before Obamacare) and was denied healthcare due to preexisting conditions despite the fact that I would have paid literally hundreds of dollars more per month than my treatment would have cost. I take a handful of cheap medications that cost almost nothing (amphetamine, for example), but was denied anyway. So, Obamacare...

I signed up through the website. My state runs it's own website, and I would bet hard cash that it's the best website out of all of them. The website was really easy, and I didn't encounter any problems or slowdown or errors. It required almost no information from me. The only personal information they asked me was stuff like name and address. This was a huge relief because the application that I had submitted for private insurance years before took literally hours to complete and was extremely detailed.

I had an option to choose between about 30 healthcare plans from about 7 different providers. I chose the provider I had before, years ago. I saved $150 per month for a better plan than I could have gotten before. I could have saved even more if I didn't go with the provider I had before, but I liked my old provider so I opted for it.

The entire process was over in about 20 minutes. My coverage starts in January.

This was my experience. Again, I'm not advocating it, or defending it, this is just literally what happened to me. I'm sure that it's probably very bad for the insurance companies. I was against healthcare reform. I'm sure that it has a high cost, and is bad for the national debt. I just wanted to give my first hand experience with signing up for it since I haven't seen a lot of them around.




It's probably a lot better in the long run. Screw the insurance companies. I will say however, this thing does not help anyone who is 100% broke, it only helps people who can already afford health care anyway. Of course people who can already afford it will save a lot of cash trust me you can see that.

But to me it doesn't address the issue it was supposed to, which is helping people who can't afford health care at all. Oh well I'm glad you got something out of it, since it's such a big deal


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: imachavel]
    #19348089 - 12/30/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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imachavel said:
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nooneman said:
I don't want to defend Obamacare or advocate for it. I just want to say what my literal experience with it has been. There's a lot of debate about it, but I actually signed up for it, and here's what it was like. For the record, I opposed healthcare reform, so there's that.

First, I didn't have healthcare before. I had applied in the past (before Obamacare) and was denied healthcare due to preexisting conditions despite the fact that I would have paid literally hundreds of dollars more per month than my treatment would have cost. I take a handful of cheap medications that cost almost nothing (amphetamine, for example), but was denied anyway. So, Obamacare...

I signed up through the website. My state runs it's own website, and I would bet hard cash that it's the best website out of all of them. The website was really easy, and I didn't encounter any problems or slowdown or errors. It required almost no information from me. The only personal information they asked me was stuff like name and address. This was a huge relief because the application that I had submitted for private insurance years before took literally hours to complete and was extremely detailed.

I had an option to choose between about 30 healthcare plans from about 7 different providers. I chose the provider I had before, years ago. I saved $150 per month for a better plan than I could have gotten before. I could have saved even more if I didn't go with the provider I had before, but I liked my old provider so I opted for it.

The entire process was over in about 20 minutes. My coverage starts in January.

This was my experience. Again, I'm not advocating it, or defending it, this is just literally what happened to me. I'm sure that it's probably very bad for the insurance companies. I was against healthcare reform. I'm sure that it has a high cost, and is bad for the national debt. I just wanted to give my first hand experience with signing up for it since I haven't seen a lot of them around.




It's probably a lot better in the long run. Screw the insurance companies. I will say however, this thing does not help anyone who is 100% broke, it only helps people who can already afford health care anyway. Of course people who can already afford it will save a lot of cash trust me you can see that.

But to me it doesn't address the issue it was supposed to, which is helping people who can't afford health care at all. Oh well I'm glad you got something out of it, since it's such a big deal



What are you fucking talking about?  A huge percentage, if not more than half, of the people signed up are either medicaid or heavily subsidized.

I believe this is morrowasted's link in another thread
http://acasignups.net/\

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2,079,534 4,034,704




2 to 1 medicaid over non bum suckers.  I believe he was using this to show that it was a fucking success.:picard:


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: imachavel]
    #19348107 - 12/30/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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imachavel said:
It's probably a lot better in the long run. Screw the insurance companies.





you clearly dont know a thing about obamacare


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19348165 - 12/30/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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imachavel said:
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nooneman said:
I don't want to defend Obamacare or advocate for it. I just want to say what my literal experience with it has been. There's a lot of debate about it, but I actually signed up for it, and here's what it was like. For the record, I opposed healthcare reform, so there's that.

First, I didn't have healthcare before. I had applied in the past (before Obamacare) and was denied healthcare due to preexisting conditions despite the fact that I would have paid literally hundreds of dollars more per month than my treatment would have cost. I take a handful of cheap medications that cost almost nothing (amphetamine, for example), but was denied anyway. So, Obamacare...

I signed up through the website. My state runs it's own website, and I would bet hard cash that it's the best website out of all of them. The website was really easy, and I didn't encounter any problems or slowdown or errors. It required almost no information from me. The only personal information they asked me was stuff like name and address. This was a huge relief because the application that I had submitted for private insurance years before took literally hours to complete and was extremely detailed.

I had an option to choose between about 30 healthcare plans from about 7 different providers. I chose the provider I had before, years ago. I saved $150 per month for a better plan than I could have gotten before. I could have saved even more if I didn't go with the provider I had before, but I liked my old provider so I opted for it.

The entire process was over in about 20 minutes. My coverage starts in January.

This was my experience. Again, I'm not advocating it, or defending it, this is just literally what happened to me. I'm sure that it's probably very bad for the insurance companies. I was against healthcare reform. I'm sure that it has a high cost, and is bad for the national debt. I just wanted to give my first hand experience with signing up for it since I haven't seen a lot of them around.




It's probably a lot better in the long run. Screw the insurance companies. I will say however, this thing does not help anyone who is 100% broke, it only helps people who can already afford health care anyway. Of course people who can already afford it will save a lot of cash trust me you can see that.

But to me it doesn't address the issue it was supposed to, which is helping people who can't afford health care at all. Oh well I'm glad you got something out of it, since it's such a big deal



What are you fucking talking about?  A huge percentage, if not more than half, of the people signed up are either medicaid or heavily subsidized.

I believe this is morrowasted's link in another thread
http://acasignups.net/\

Quote:

2,079,534 4,034,704




2 to 1 medicaid over non bum suckers.  I believe he was using this to show that it was a fucking success.:picard:




Yep.  Before I was a person who could've qualified for Medicaid but chose not to join the program.  Now that I'm facing a financial penalty for not having insurance subsidized by the taxpayer I've become subsidized.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19348231 - 12/30/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:flowstone:  The government works in mysterious ways.  You think that is a success?


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19348238 - 12/30/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

To be clear, I don't.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19348283 - 12/30/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good for you.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19348424 - 12/30/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
Well holy shit. A positive story about Obamacare. Call the news station or something, you seem to be the only satisfied American in the country



Nope, my entire family is registered and satisfied. The only people I can find who are pissed are selfish people who are watch too much mainsteam news, get caught up in their ideologies, or are mad about "lies" and feeling that they have to pay for other peoples' health problems.

"My health insurance would go up under Obamacare and I'm a healthy white male, why should I have to pay for old people?"

:rolleyes: Selfish pricks.

BTW everyone in my family is saving money and getting greater coverage as a result of the ACA.




my insurance did go up due to obamacare, from $327/mo t$540/mo,  I'm about
to see another $75/mo increase, under the ACA website, it's $900/mo for
comparable coverage



Cry me a river, maybe you should've gone to college. And not been such an unhealthy person. WTF kind of shitty health do you have that you need the ACA equivalent of $900 worth of healthcare?


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19348439 - 12/30/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What healthcare are you getting, what is/isn't covered, and what services are you eligible for?


What I have noticed is that under private insurance no coverage for psychological services was covered, there was no coverage for services for things like addiction treatment, and that my out of pocket expenses were higher at point of service (which is less manageable for a person like me). None of this is true of the ACA in my case.



I have no interest in rehab, addiction, or psychological coverage.  Why should I be forced to pay for your fuckups?



Because you live in a civilized society. Don't like it? Go live in the fucking forest and fend for yourself.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
    #19348452 - 12/30/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19348487 - 12/30/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

By the way, I don't seek psychological or addiction services. But other people do and they deserve them if they pay into the system.

I do have lower monthly costs and lower point of service out of pocket costs as a result of the ACA and that another reason why I am in favor of it.

I am allowed to be in favor of the ACA because it covers psychological and addiction services even though I do not use them.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
    #19348510 - 12/30/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did you write the proposal for ACA, or are you closely related to the person that did?
You defend that :cuteshit: with passion.
Anyway, unquestionably it has the potential to help some people, but it negatively affects more people, not to mention its unconstitutional as fuck.

As for me paying for your fuck ups cuz we live in a "civilized" society...fuck that.
Since the dawn of civilization, society has always outcast the fuckups. "Only the strong survive."


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: TopPmz]
    #19348636 - 12/30/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Everybody will use health insurance at some point

you guys act like the government has no interest in this other then to get votes

everything is being payed for by taxes


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Konyap]
    #19348658 - 12/30/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Votes have nothing to do with it, IMO. It's about money, and its one more small freedom they got away with taking.
ACA fucks a lot of insurance companies, it hurts businesses, and it royally fucks the average, bottom-of-the-totem pole workers who are getting under 26 hrs/week at minimum wage so their employer doesn't have to pay for their benefits.


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: TopPmz]
    #19348680 - 12/30/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

dey wanna take are freedumbz geiz


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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: TopPmz]
    #19348701 - 12/30/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

TopPmz said:
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one more small freedom they got away with taking


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Not being able to afford to live is a freedom? what

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ACA fucks a lot of insurance companies, it hurts businesses,




how? it's paid by taxes on random shit,who is getting fucked?

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and it royally fucks the average, bottom-of-the-totem pole workers who are getting under 26 hrs/week at minimum wage so their employer doesn't have to pay for their benefits.




They wouldn't get health insurance anyway, if you have a fulltime job 99% of the time YOU PAY out of pocket for insurance unless you work in the congress. Haven't you ever had a job? All they do is offer you a insurance provider..


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