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Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing * 1
    #19348555 - 12/30/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hi folks!

After so many questions, finally my cakes are pinning pretty fine. You can check out the photos here. They started to pin about 4-5 days ago. It is the normal growth for them? I have also spotted tiny pins, every new day small pins show up. After the photos I got one more question about growing in a tray (that I did today with my remaining three jars.)



So, yesterday I opened my three remaining jars. They were colonizing for 5 weeks and consolidating for almost three extra (as a small area of the jar was not covered with mycelium) I bought coir (coconut bark) as the nutrients. I dunked them for 24 hours and today I broke down the cakes until they were very loose. The entire cakes had mycelium even to very center of the cakes, which I assume is a good sign. I pasteurized the coir (155 degrees for 60 minutes) and then made the blend. Since a cake is a cup in weight and I had three, the mix was the three cakes and seven cups of coin and blended everything resulting in the following pics. I know it needs a week (if it does need more, please let me know, I am patient) to re-colonize the substrate. The mix is not touching the foil, I wrapped the foil with plastic. Now, I used extra plastic to cover it as you can see on the pics (the plastic covering it is not touching the mix.) Is that fine? Do I need to poke a hole in the plastic or something?

After a week (or whatever it needs) I should move the entire tray to the Fruiting chamber, right? I was thinking in surrounding the tray with Perlite (instead of placing the tray above the perlite.) Is that correct? Then, once in the Fruiting Chamber, regular upkeep of mist and fanning.



Now, I figure, that after the week of re-colonizing I just move it onto the fruiting chamber, there are no more steps in between. These are cubensis so I believe I do not need to do any casings.

When the flush with a tray is over, what do I need to do for the next flush? I know cakes you just dunk them again, but how about trays?

Also, when my current flush on the cakes is over, I plan to break them down as well and "convert" to tray growing, is that cool?

Thanks a lot folks!!


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19348580 - 12/30/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When spawning BRF cakes to bulk, you should use unconsolidated cakes. After the first flush for a bulk tray, just pour some water on the sub and let is soak for about 4 hours, then pour out the water. If the sub is wet after the first flush, let it dry out a bit before adding water.


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: happygolucky]
    #19348586 - 12/30/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would get a rack to sit the tray on for better evaporation of the perlite.


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: happygolucky]
    #19348624 - 12/30/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, since mines consolidated, is that a problem?

Also, how about the 2nd flush for my cakes, is it fine to "convert" them into tray?


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19348643 - 12/30/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no just leave them and the consolidated thing is just gonna have a higher chance of slower colonizing times


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: cronicr]
    #19353461 - 01/01/14 01:39 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)



Gonna print the top-middle one, it is growing a lot, so when the cap opens, I will print it.

Is foil okay to print them? I heard people not liking foil paper. I do not plan to make syringes yet, as I still need the glove chamber thing, but that shroom is worth printing :wink:


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19353464 - 01/01/14 01:42 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

take lots of prints and yes on foil:thumbup: build yourself a sab out of a cardboard box for now, no need to go all fancy just something to work in:thumbup: and i see no holes in your fc?


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: cronicr]
    #19353472 - 01/01/14 01:48 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

and your bulk sub needs some gas exchange, i just cover mine with foil and poke afew holes in it, wait till its' fully colonized again before fruiting it, your fine to sit it right on the perlite the moisture from your mist is gonna do most of your work for you:thumbup:
and don't make more trays out of your cakes just let them fruit you want only fresh mycelium to use for bulk subs, for a second flush you sure can dunk but keep it to 4 hours or less or even just a few heavy mists should do it


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19353556 - 01/01/14 02:44 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Thanks!

I poked some holes on the cover for my bulk tray, I had no idea I needed to do it, so thanks a lot for the advice :smile:

Good to know for the cakes, I was feeling like it would not be a good idea, so thanks for validating. I will just stick to these cakes for 2-3 more flushes until they go bad. From now on though, I will only do bulk... seems much better.


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19353562 - 01/01/14 02:46 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

:rockon:


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19355418 - 01/01/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

1st one harvested :smile: It opened completely yesterday and remaining the same until now.



The other ones are still growing, so not ready to harvest. This one weight 7g fresh. I am unsure if maybe I should have waited a bit longer, but I was afraid it would spoil in the FC.

Now, the million dollar question... fresh air dry or fan? I do not own any small fan (I do own one which is about 10 by 10, but it is a powerful fan. I live in South California and right now is about 73 degrees with 45% humidity. Right now, I placed it suspended as it can be seen in this pic (on cheese cloth):



How will this workout? Within a couple days I expect to have more as some are starting to open too.


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19355467 - 01/01/14 04:58 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

well no matter how much bigger it could have gotten your not getting any more weight out of it other then water weight, they just enlarge there cells with water, picture a balloon blowing up.
fan dry for sure no matter how big the fan is the more air movement the better


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: cronicr]
    #19356016 - 01/01/14 07:43 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Thanks a lot! I appreciate your help a lot :smile: Gave you a 5 shroom rating :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:

I have a ton more to soon harvest. One of them has like white fuzz (see photo) and for the research I did here it is a good sign, maybe too much misting?



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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19356054 - 01/01/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Time to invest in a cheap dehydrator :smile:


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Re: Shrooms growing (photos) and one question for tray-bulk growing [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #19356086 - 01/01/14 08:09 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Yup :laugh:

Will buy one soon, but I got a fix for now :laugh:



The basket has holes so the air goes through it. The shrooms are laying on a bed of cheese cloth (two inches or so away from the bottom of the basket) and then, they are covered by another cheese cloth so fan does not blow them away.


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