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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19346810 - 12/30/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the only thing I know about it is I watched sum neurosoup vid or read something by krystle cole about some guy involved with picard that gave away a bunch of black gross acid and it had some bad reactions but I feel like it shouldn't be much more dangerous than anything else that's not super pure


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #19346822 - 12/30/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm willing to try it myself and tell you if I feel any thing.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19346842 - 12/30/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly if I saw black crystal, I wouldn't touch it.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19346929 - 12/30/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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KingKnowledge said:
Honestly if I saw black crystal, I wouldn't touch it.




Not with a ten foot pole


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19347002 - 12/30/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Honestly if I saw black crystal, I wouldn't touch it.




Not with a ten foot pole



:philososloth:

OP better get some swiss needlepoint instead:dancingbear:


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19347237 - 12/30/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Honestly if I saw black crystal, I wouldn't touch it.




Carbon is black. You wouldn't take acid contaminated with some carbon?


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19347491 - 12/30/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't be confident on what xtals on any tabs non of us can pretend to know, if I saw a vial of indeed black crystal lsd I would try and find out as much as I can about it, I'd still find somethin elce time being.

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Honestly if I saw black crystal, I wouldn't touch it.




Not with a ten foot pole



That's racist.
What if you got if for cheap and could recrystalize or something.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19347527 - 12/30/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That is so very sad. I never knew acid could be that bad. I take my pure, clean, and strong white on white blotter for granted. I am sensitive when it comes to psychedelics so if I were to get bad lucy it would probably be a terribly anxious experience. Perhaps I should get a couple strips in case my connections dry up.



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If you're getting good acid, stock up man!



Don't pretend you know what xtals on your blotter you don't know if its champagne on white. So shut up.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Lucid Toast]
    #19348069 - 12/30/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, you mightn't know what xtal it is, but you can feel the difference between crispy clean and weak, dirty L.

If it's good... you stock up while you can.

Calm your tits.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19348204 - 12/30/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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KingKnowledge said:
Honestly if I saw black crystal, I wouldn't touch it.




Carbon is black. You wouldn't take acid contaminated with some carbon?




Lol I mean maybe but it would look pretty gnarly...

I prefer clean drugs.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19348244 - 12/30/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No, you mightn't know what xtal it is, but you can feel the difference between crispy clean and weak, dirty L.

If it's good... you stock up while you can.

Calm your tits.



nah you can't.

"dirty" L is just weaker. body tension has nothing to do it. its dependent just like set and setting. dont believe me eat mushrooms from the same batch at same dose over a course of several months.

all LSD impurities are inactive. nothing harmful can remain in the L from synth without making it a completely other inactive compound altogether.

likewise LSD can be a variety of colors for the same purity. color is no indicator at all.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: D.M.T]
    #19348264 - 12/30/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

there could be some ergoloids left in it unreacted that cause more vasoconstriction than lsd


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: SteelPanther]
    #19348277 - 12/30/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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there could be some ergoloids left in it unreacted that cause more vasoconstriction than lsd




This. Impurities can lead to unpleasant body loads


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19348322 - 12/30/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I totally disagree with user D.M.T. Who wouldn't believe chinacat72 (LSD: Crystal to Blotter), someone with a very high level of experience.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: s240779]
    #19348330 - 12/30/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah, I totally disagree with user D.M.T. Who wouldn't believe chinacat72 (LSD: Crystal to Blotter), someone with a very high level of experience.




QFT

Sorry D.M.T.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Lucid Toast]
    #19348374 - 12/30/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Chinacat 72 is, IMHO, the most informed person on LSD on shroomery. He stated that he went on a multi milligram dose of champagne and he thought he had ergot poisoning. I fully take his word for this. I believe both purity of crystal, set and setting have an effect on body load. You are going to have less body load on a needlepoint trip in isolated nature than on a champagne dose in a crowded stressful area no discussion. I do believe purity effects body load, however I do believe it's not the only factor that determines body load.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Webster10]
    #19348429 - 12/30/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What makes you think a drug dealer is more informed than someone who actually does chemistry? :ilold: and :facepalm: all in one.
never seen a thing from the guy that sounds like he's 'in the know' - just another guy who handled doses in the 90s. so what?

what could be active in nanogram measurement that for some reason mass spectrometers have never been able to pick up in analysis? lsd's SAR is a sensitive one, there's not much room for impurity to begin with..

Placebo is a powerful thing my friends...

Smaller weighted crystals never form the same..ever..even at same purity. Looking at a crystals color and saying how pure it is..thats just not scientifically feasible, and neither is these magically unidentified impurities causing vasoconstriction but no other effects whatsoever.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #19348485 - 12/30/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Considering Chinacat 72 went on thousands of multi milligram doses and was fine on every white fluff and/or needlepoint trip he went on and then the one time he tryed champagne he thought he had ergot poisoning, I would consider him capable of determining body load from different purity crystal. You could have a phD in organic chemistry and I'm sorry, but I won't be convinced until you thumbprint with needlepoint and then thumbprint with champagne and tell me there is no difference in body load. I lol'd and facepalmed. He even said he saw a girl thumbprint with champagne and her finger tips turned blue and she had a seizure! If you don't accept that as evidence, then I just don't know what evidence is.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: Webster10]
    #19348496 - 12/30/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Am  I the only one who doesn't know how someone could possibly have the discipline, care, and resources to make LSD, yet turn around and just say "fuck it let's just not purify it and throw it on the streets"?

Makes no sense. It's hard to swallow this whole story. If any underground labs that actually make LSD exist, they make it reasonably pure.


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Re: Can champagne/black xtal hurt you over time? [Re: D.M.T]
    #19348502 - 12/30/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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D.M.T said:
What makes you think a drug dealer is more informed than someone who actually does chemistry?




Sometimes experience trumps scientific research, especially when said scientific research is eventually determined to be inadequate and the experiences are finally quantified.

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what could be active in nanogram measurement that for some reason mass spectrometers have never been able to pick up in analysis?




I thought we were talking micrograms, not nanograms, and I don't necessarily think that many careful analyses have been done on champagne LSD.

How many papers have you read on the analysis of champagne LSD?

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Placebo is a powerful thing my friends...




I've seen reports on acid that seemed to be poor quality where the individual didn't even know the grade and therefore had no preconceptions.

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D.M.T said:Looking at a crystals color and saying how pure it is..thats just not scientifically feasible




But it's certainly indicative of potential impurities.


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