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chefinainteasy
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Im back baby!
#19347181 - 12/30/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi Everyone! Its been a while since I've been around. Back in the spring I got promoted at my job to the executive sous chef. Then a month later my basement flooded. All of this lead me to shut down my basement operation. I stewed for a few months then decided that I wasn't ready to give up on this. So I started working on my business plan, doing extensive market research, and running the numbers on my pilot basement project. Everything lead to the conclusion that I can make a real go at starting a larger operation making the same amount of money I am at my chef job, and in a few years if all goes well, more. Its been a LOT of planning with the help of my father, who does this for a living in the pharmaceutical business. Though he usually oversees fermentation facilities that start in the millions. So we have just finished my business plan, have been approved by the bank, and now am ready to send off to the SBA(small business association) for approval. Which the bank feels very confident, do to the relatively small amount borrowed, will be approved. Its now just a two month waiting game. I had my contractor out at the warehouse today for build out estimates. So I snapped a few shots of the space. 
 Here is the front and a shot of the little office you walk into. To the right of it is where the lab will be. It may not become an OICU812's level 100 lab but should come close.
  Here are some shots from the front looking towards the back. You can see the bathroom to the right. In front of that is where the walk in cooler and processing area will be. Plus my little monkey who got to ride her bike in daddy's "squarehouse."
There will be three grow rooms, 18' long, 8' wide, and 12' tall with a gabled roof. They will go along the left side with two side by side and another along the wall towards the back. There is not a good centrally located drain so the grow rooms will be build on a platform and drains plumbed underneath to the outside.
 There is a drive in and truck dock. The door on the right is the truck dock and in front of which will be the substrate processing area. Behind it on the right wall will be the incubation room.
 In back here is where they are going to let me build three 9x9x6 composting areas.
It will still be at least 2-3 months before construction begins. That should give all of you kind, knowledgeable folks here enough time to help me brainstorm and finalize some of my loose ends. Thanks in advance!!!!
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laughingsol
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Welcome back in a big way! Can't wait for the updates on this project. Many, many blessings chef.
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Jeff
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Nice project. I hope it works out for you.
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TiN 42
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: Jeff]
#19347573 - 12/30/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If it's not built yet have you considered drains in the floor.
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TiN 42
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: TiN 42]
#19347591 - 12/30/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tinkid said: If it's not built yet have you considered drains in the floor.
sorry didn't see There is not a good centrally located drain so the grow rooms will be build on a platform and drains plumbed underneath to the outside
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drake89
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: TiN 42]
#19347932 - 12/30/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tinkid said:
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tinkid said: If it's not built yet have you considered drains in the floor.
sorry didn't see There is not a good centrally located drain so the grow rooms will be build on a platform and drains plumbed underneath to the outside
That sounds real difficult to do without rotting. I guess you could use metal plastic or masonry. Do you have other tenants to share the space with? If its at all possible get some land cause moving is a reality I'm about to have face!
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chefinainteasy
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: drake89]
#19347973 - 12/30/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its just me in the 3000sqft building. I'll be building out of metal studs with marina plywood for the flooring. I'm still thinking of materials to use for the floor in the grow rooms where the drains will be. I'm leaning towards an industrial pond liner or some similar rubber membrane with a bit of texture for grip. The rest of the room will be covered in FRP. This part is one the contractor and I will be bouncing around ideas for a bit. All of your input will be helpful.
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SkysTheLimit
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Damn that's a really nice facility, how much was the warehouse or its rent?
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chefinainteasy
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Its leased. $1700/month
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jboredone
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chefinainteasy said: Its leased. $1700/month
thats a whole lot of mushrooms to sell....
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chefinainteasy
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Ha sure is. About 200#s a week in fact
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jboredone
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best of luck....will deff be following this thread.....
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TiN 42
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chefinainteasy said: Its just me in the 3000sqft building. I'll be building out of metal studs with marina plywood for the flooring. I'm still thinking of materials to use for the floor in the grow rooms where the drains will be. I'm leaning towards an industrial pond liner or some similar rubber membrane with a bit of texture for grip. The rest of the room will be covered in FRP. This part is one the contractor and I will be bouncing around ideas for a bit. All of your input will be helpful.
sounds good
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SkysTheLimit
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: TiN 42]
#19348139 - 12/30/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dayum 1700 to cover every month . . . what species are you hoping to sell so much of?
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chefinainteasy
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I'll have a mix of 4-5 species at all time. Oysters(seasonal), shiitake, king oyster, nameko, pippin, beach, and hopefully a few others. I'd really like to dial in some calacibe indicia like sparkle grows. There not found here so would be a nice variety. I'll grow them in a mix that gives me an average price per pound of $14.7 US.
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SkysTheLimit
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Oh ok, btw who are the main buyers of your shiitake mushrooms? Farmers markets or restuarants?
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chefinainteasy
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Restaurants will make up 80-85% of sales yearly with farmers markets making up about 10-15% and whole sale options for additional product. Farmers markets are only seasonal here, about 6-7 months out of the year. If I can, ill sell solely to restaurants as the markets are a larger undertaking time wise/ number of pounds sold. Though I do get a bit more $/# there. In the end there just not worth it if I don't need them. I know many chefs in the area being one myself for the past 12 years. I also know lots of produce providers to sell whole sale if the opportunity arises.
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t3chnobily
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I was wondering were you got off too. Way to go for it. EPDM pond liner could work. Maybe sloped to drain and covered in gravel. Designing processing facilities on this scale will be challenging but fun. How much of the process are you going to automate?
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chefinainteasy
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The grow rooms will all be automated. Humidistat controlled solenoid valves for a misting system, lights obviously, air system. I'm working on a design for a window ac unit to cool my rooms. I'm throwing around a few ideas but mostly piping the cold air exhaust into the intake plenum after the blower or in the return air ducting.
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Way to go, Chef! Think big! I wish you all the best!
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drake89
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how many people are you going to have working for you? and how are you getting the $14 average? selling to a lot of smaller (5lb ish) orders? wholesalers here only give $4 or so per lb so we have to do all the deliveries.
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cubenpete
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Sounds like a great plan, best of luck in the new year.
Very interested in the floor design you deside on, thanks for sharing and keep us updated.
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chefinainteasy
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I wont sell whole sale unless I have a good amount of excess. Whole sale is about the same here about $4-6. Less to produce companies and a bit more to CSA's. Ill be selling to country clubs and restaurants mostly. 5# increments. Some take 10# a week some 5 just depends. I also know chefs in the local casinos, hotels, and some of the hospitals, and colleges. I'm also a member of the local ACF, American culinary federation who has monthly meetings. I can attend to meet new chefs and also host educational meetings at the warehouse to educate and introduce my products. Ill also offer educational visits to the local culinary schools as they usually visit fish companies, farms, etc. All part of my networking and marketing plan. I really can't understate selling to country clubs to those out there selling in city areas.
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SkysTheLimit
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Btw which mushrooms do restuarants buy most of?
Damn that chef network must be sooo damn useful
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Aleon
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chefinainteasy said: I'll have a mix of 4-5 species at all time. Oysters(seasonal), shiitake, king oyster, nameko, pippin, beach, and hopefully a few others. I'd really like to dial in some calacibe indicia like sparkle grows. There not found here so would be a nice variety. I'll grow them in a mix that gives me an average price per pound of $14.7 US.
Its good to see you again; best of luck with your grow!
I don't know your market, but moving 1/2-full ton a month at $14.75/lb is going to be extremely hard. We average about $8-12/lb and our quality is spectacular.
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: Aleon]
#19350147 - 12/31/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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drake89
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: Aleon]
#19350343 - 12/31/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chefinainteasy said: I'll have a mix of 4-5 species at all time. Oysters(seasonal), shiitake, king oyster, nameko, pippin, beach, and hopefully a few others. I'd really like to dial in some calacibe indicia like sparkle grows. There not found here so would be a nice variety. I'll grow them in a mix that gives me an average price per pound of $14.7 US.
Its good to see you again; best of luck with your grow!
I don't know your market, but moving 1/2-full ton a month at $14.75/lb is going to be extremely hard. We average about $8-12/lb and our quality is spectacular.
that's what I was getting at
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: drake89]
#19350435 - 12/31/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is quite a scary overhead, I assume you have factored in the first 3 months of no sales + 3 months of ramp up... and a good break on the lease just in case.
RE the floor would it not just be easier to cut in the drains you need into the concrete? About 2 days with a diamond cutter.
Having said that it's a great looking space, I am after new premises now as my lease runs out soon, even after 3 years of production I would baulk at that cost though
Get/build a drier.Or even two.
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chefinainteasy
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: drake89]
#19350474 - 12/31/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya no doubt its going to be a challenge getting to full scale, not in terms on my production end but on the sales end. The good news is I haven't set the pricing for the species I'm selling. There has been a farmer out of southern mo that has been selling in the area for a while now and I'm just piggy backing off of there prices. When I was selling 50-60 #/week out of my house I had no issues with pricing. I also carry an advantage of growing everything locally. The other guy buys in a lot from the west coast, mostly growing shiitake on there farm. There are over 130 restaurants on the higher end in my area, 30 country clubs, and about 35 hotel, casino, colleges. My premarketing phone calls and email contact gave me enough bounce back to give a 40% buffer of overage. Not to say everyone will buy consistently.
I have been working with the local extension office small farm start up group and MO DOA and they have shared out put and demographic information with me. They are confident in the market out there being greater then supply of the one or two people selling mixed gourmets. Knowing your market is a MUST if you plan on scaling. Talk to people, call chefs, talk to local agricultural departments and schools. You will find new outlets for sales.
Solarity- I most certainly have done my financial homework. Plans for no sales for two months, I wont even be making money until month 12 or 13. I have a three year cash flow analysis and have run a burn rate given worst, good, better, and best case scenarios. I really can't state enough to everyone out there who think this is going to be a cash cow business. DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Look at solarities "shit tone calculator." Work with someone who can bring you back down to reality when you start thinking the money will just start flowing in. I have a wife,3 year old, and another baby on the way. I'm leaving my job making decent money and health insurance. All of these things are factored and rolled into my business model. In the end I'm not making more money, I'm leaving my job so I can have a life with my family. The hours of a chef are grinding. Missing every holiday, birthday, ect has just lead me to the conclusion I don't want that life.
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Congrats on the new space! It must be really exciting to take the jump and do what you love for a living. Good luck with the build and the many grows to come.
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chefinainteasy
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: toawbe]
#19350538 - 12/31/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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About the floor drain- I have cost out the addition of floor drains vs just raising and venting and in the long run, based on my start up cost as is, its just no in the budget. It sure would be the best option. But now I just have to get creative. Plus that's half the fun of this whole thing isn't it?
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woodland_jewel
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Right on, Chef! I had a feeling you must have been up to something big during your absence. Good luck with everything! Keep us posted on your progress.
cheers.
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Bad Kitty
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: TiN 42]
#19354104 - 01/01/14 09:41 AM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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My first build was a 20x10 in the basement. It was on a platform to allow drainage. The platform cost more than installing drains in my current grow (48x20). I would strongly recommend looking into this! It cost me $400 to have the concrete cut, less than $200 for pvc and drains and then we dug out a French drain outside. Way Easier to scrub or pressure wash concrete!!! The entire project took one day, and my landlord was happy that I was improving the property. If you are thinking of using a concrete mixer for your dust than that will make the concrete work way simpler. In the long run you will be very happy with a real floor and drains and I bet it won't cost any more than the platforms.
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Bad Kitty
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Sorry you already posted on the floor and drains. But the prices quoted to me where in the 4-6k range. Doing it myself kept the cost below $900. Just something to think about. And congrats for taking the leap!
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chefinainteasy
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Thanks for that. I am still going back and forth. The thing is I would have to put in three drains with over 50ft of concrete to dig up. I can do almost all the work myself just pay a concrete finisher. I do very much agree in the long run the cost up front may be worth the ease of cleaning in the long run.
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chefinainteasy said: I'll have a mix of 4-5 species at all time. Oysters(seasonal), shiitake, king oyster, nameko, pippin, beach, and hopefully a few others. I'd really like to dial in some calacibe indicia like sparkle grows. There not found here so would be a nice variety. I'll grow them in a mix that gives me an average price per pound of $14.7 US.
Hi Chefin, the best of luck on your project. You can grow CI under the oysters but remember they wont fruit well under 75F. CI is amazing... 
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: sparkle]
#19355885 - 01/01/14 06:58 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Your pictures always make me smile Sparkle. Those mushrooms are so cool.
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ghiajake
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: Jeff]
#19356055 - 01/01/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Love the pic of your garden, chefin! Not to say the proposed space doesn't look awesome, but seems like an awful lot of unusable space for the price man. Unless you have twenty foot tall shelves. Something with shorter ceilings and more usable cubic foot would be much more efficient with lower utility costs. For that cost, you could build something like snakebite's set up http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18609793. Maybe even incorporate some solar panels to lower electrical costs. Should cost less to build than your first year of rent in the warehouse. Either way, I'll definitely keep an eye on your progress. And welcome back, btw.
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drake89
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: ghiajake]
#19356198 - 01/01/14 08:45 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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yeah aluminum framed buildings are much cheaper than steel structures. i got a 12ft tall, 1500sq ft one quoted at $11,000, built, without a slab though. i'd say the note on something like that would be cheaper than your rent.
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: drake89]
#19357421 - 01/02/14 06:24 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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drake89 said: yeah aluminum framed buildings are much cheaper than steel structures. i got a 12ft tall, 1500sq ft one quoted at $11,000, built, without a slab though. i'd say the note on something like that would be cheaper than your rent.
Not if you don't own a property to put it on.
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: Aleon]
#19357461 - 01/02/14 06:59 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Looks amazing, chefin! Can't wait to see that space in production. I need more space, lol.
I built stick built 800 square feet for around 12000, including a sloped slab with radiant heat. Didn't need to worry about drains, all the water flows to the back corner.
I built pretty cheap tho, interior walks are foam board with panda plastic on top and the exterior siding is OSB with 5 coats of good exterior latex. Metal buildings are generally a rip off imo compared to wood.
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: mrtumnas] 1
#19357748 - 01/02/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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I was just wondering what happened to you chef, happy to hear you are making a jump.
About the floor drains,
Everytime I try and design a walk in raised floor drain system it quickly balloons in cost. A lot of that is going to be time(time=money).
BUTTT if you are going to go that route I personally would just use a pond liner. Get a nice rot resistant wood, over lay a thick sheet of plastic, then your pond liner. Get a good silicone for your drain through the liner. Make sure that the liner and plastic go behind your walls or it basically makes your liner useless. Same idea as modern showers.
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ghiajake
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: nanncee]
#19357835 - 01/02/14 10:32 AM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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A modified metal storage container would be perfect. Looking for one myself.
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chefinainteasy
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: ghiajake]
#19358778 - 01/02/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Ya I don't have property and its almost impossible to get a loan to buy just land. The warehouse is 5 minutes from my house and in the grand scheme of things, an intermediate step. If this goes well and the market is there hopefully ill buy a house with land and build out a true farm. Im getting a quote on cutting the floor and running a few drains. If it comes close to budget ill go that route. If not im going with the pond liner I think. I work at a golf course and the grounds crew said they may have some extra from the pond renovation they will either sell cheap or give to me. Fingers crosses. Something like this. http://www.reefindustries.com/pond-liners.php?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=industrial%20pond%20liners&utm_content=Pond%2BLiners&utm_campaign=Liners%2BJeff%2BGarza&ex=7v7nj-13c8k9q-kwt81f
I agree with the lack of use of overhead space. We talked about building a second level in the future if needs be. But you just pay for square footage so 30ft ceilings or 10 foot ceilings all cost the same here. Im building the incubation room to be about 18 feet tall and the grow rooms will measure about 15 feet at the tip of the gable.
Speaking of which, anyone out there strongly advocate a gabled roof vs flat? I know its more conducive for air circulation with a gable but will cost more. Thoughts?
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Hell, if you've got that much room you could use something like this, http://www.amazon.com/STRONG-12X7X7-Outdoor-Gardening-Greenhouse/dp/B0098R8GES/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1388697735&sr=8-4&keywords=greenhouse, and set in on your raised floor. I use a gabled 7'x4'x6.5' one with built-in shelves in my basement. Great thing about them is you can use them outdoors for plants once you build your own grow building.
Flat roof fruiting chambers will collect moisture and drip all over. Domed or gabled will allow the moisture to run down the sides and help with air circulation.
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chefinainteasy
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: ghiajake]
#19358851 - 01/02/14 02:32 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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http://www.rubberflooringinc.com/garage/levant-rolls.html Found this. Might work.
That's what I read in GGMM. Ill be building metal stud framed, FRP lined grow rooms.
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nanncee



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chefinainteasy said: http://www.rubberflooringinc.com/garage/levant-rolls.html Found this. Might work.
That's what I read in GGMM. Ill be building metal stud framed, FRP lined grow rooms.
My only question with those is how well it would stand up to constant water. Where as a pond liner you know is formulated for it.
When I was researching a few months back I came across some stuff that was decent price but like an idiot I didn't bookmark it. I'll see if I can find it.
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Edited by nanncee (01/03/14 03:44 PM)
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chefinainteasy
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: nanncee]
#19364565 - 01/03/14 05:27 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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The more I look into it, epoxy coatings, roll on rubber membranes, or liners, the more the cost of having the floor cut and proper drains installed is becoming justified. I think taking the hit up front will leave me feeling better and working better in the long run. I just have to run it by the people who own the building, though they are very easy and open so I'm sure it will be ok.
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drake89
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chefinainteasy said: I think taking the hit up front will leave me feeling better and working better in the long run.
remember that. this is capitalism. gotta spend money to make money, otherwise we'd all be rich
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trout
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Re: Im back baby! [Re: drake89]
#19440113 - 01/18/14 10:32 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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Great Chef. Glad to see you jumping in. I wish you only the best. I'm starting business school in a few days and my goal is the same as yours. It looks like you have a good support structure to keep you grounded and help evaluate your decisions, plus your chef connections. Well done, I will be watching closely. Looks good so far. Trout
Ps. I'd cut the drains.
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Edited by trout (01/18/14 10:33 PM)
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