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InvisibleDebuteMachine

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Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address
    #19347077 - 12/30/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, so the title basically says it all. What is one social issue you feel the world would be better if it were fixed or changed?

Please don't start an argument, or rudely disagree with anyone. This is like  think tank thread, I want to get a pulse of how my other shroomies are feeling.

My issue is money. I feel that everyone should have to work 15+ hours a week, but it would be unpayed. The Gov't would supply you with an allowance, and everyone would understand hard work and money are two separate ideas.

I guess in a nut shell I would try to take the important out of money. I hate the ideas behind money.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19347136 - 12/30/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, Communism?


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: setb]
    #19347159 - 12/30/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Drugs, make them all legal, tax them.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19347172 - 12/30/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The out of control justice system and imprisonment rates in the US.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19347198 - 12/30/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have several issues:

- Cleaning up our mess. There are millions of tons of plastic in the ocean

- Democracy needs to be updated

- We need to invest in clean electricity and battery development

- We need to create high speed transport all over the world

- The education system needs to be reformed

That's enough for now, it should keep the world busy for a while


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19347223 - 12/30/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DebuteMachine said:


My issue is money. I feel that everyone should have to work 15+ hours a week, but it would be unpayed. The Gov't would supply you with an allowance, and everyone would understand hard work and money are two separate ideas.

I guess in a nut shell I would try to take the important out of money. I hate the ideas behind money.




i feel that would screw 75% of the people, probably help the other 25%


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: koods]
    #19347236 - 12/30/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

koods said:
The out of control justice system and imprisonment rates in the US.



Just saying taking care of the drug problem would DRASTICALLY reduce the prison population.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19347252 - 12/30/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I see everyone here still enjoys money very much.

Why not make society automated? Let's build robots so we can all goof off all day.

Patlal your post was pretty good.

And thanks to the dick who called me a commie.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19347256 - 12/30/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

hidenseek1 said:
Quote:

DebuteMachine said:


My issue is money. I feel that everyone should have to work 15+ hours a week, but it would be unpayed. The Gov't would supply you with an allowance, and everyone would understand hard work and money are two separate ideas.

I guess in a nut shell I would try to take the important out of money. I hate the ideas behind money.




i feel that would screw 75% of the people, probably help the other 25%




More like it'd screw 1-10%, and help 90-99%


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: TopPmz]
    #19347263 - 12/30/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well im assume 15 hours dosnt get you very much allowance


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19347268 - 12/30/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DebuteMachine said:
And thanks to the dick who called me a commie.




Communism, properly executed, would create a perfect society.
Don't be offended.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19347277 - 12/30/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
well im assume 15 hours dosnt get you very much allowance




Well I was trying to be general. A high school kid I wouldn't expect any more. You would be able to do as much work as you liked. Most of this would be stuff like infrastructural. And I would rather look at it like a union than communism.

I understand there are way too many variables, and this wouldn't work. I just think money and work shouldn't be in the same boat, like church and state.

So back to my original idea, I would bring back a lot of unions.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19347282 - 12/30/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't agree with DM's whole plan.
But, removing the necessity of money would definitely be a positive thing.
The vast majority of money doesn't actually exist anyway.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: TopPmz]
    #19347306 - 12/30/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah my plan is flawed, no doubt. I really just can't stand how people worship the current economic status quo.

You don't need money to live a healthy balanced life. With the way human's act though, you absolutely DO need money. The current system is just so artificial, it makes me sad.

I also agree with the comment that it would hurt the 10% and help the rest. Whoever said otherwise does not know how money is actually controlled.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19347324 - 12/30/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think bringing in more unions would help anything.

But, on the topic of money, read Modern Money Mechanics. It explains exactly how the US monetary system works.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: TopPmz]
    #19347331 - 12/30/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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TopPmz said:
Quote:

hidenseek1 said:
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DebuteMachine said:


My issue is money. I feel that everyone should have to work 15+ hours a week, but it would be unpayed. The Gov't would supply you with an allowance, and everyone would understand hard work and money are two separate ideas.

I guess in a nut shell I would try to take the important out of money. I hate the ideas behind money.




i feel that would screw 75% of the people, probably help the other 25%




More like it'd screw 1-10%, and help 90-99%





And what happens if these workers aren't productive, slack off, and/or do nothing? How many people stuck doing janitorial work will get pissed off and jelous about people with other jobs?

Don't you see something wrong with this?


Edited by luvdemboomers (12/30/13 05:01 PM)


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19347347 - 12/30/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's why I said I don't agree with his plan.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: koods]
    #19347363 - 12/30/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

koods said:
The out of control justice system and imprisonment rates in the US.



coming from someone getting raped by the texas judicial system, i agree.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: TopPmz]
    #19347377 - 12/30/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That's why I said I don't agree with his plan.



you did?


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: TopPmz]
    #19347385 - 12/30/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

TopPmz said:
I don't think bringing in more unions would help anything.




Unions bankrupted Detroit.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19347406 - 12/30/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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TopPmz said:
I don't agree with DM's whole plan.
But, removing the necessity of money would definitely be a positive thing.
The vast majority of money doesn't actually exist anyway.



I sure did, lol.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19347408 - 12/30/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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luvdemboomers said:

And what happens if these workers aren't productive, slack off, and/or do nothing? How many people stuck doing janitorial work will get pissed off and jelous about people with other jobs?

Don't you see something wrong with this?




Be a leader. Lead by example, inspire people. Have fun.

Of course I'm assuming man is fundamentally good. Like dogs. I would just let nature take it's course.


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Re: Pick ONE social issue you'd like to address [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19347699 - 12/30/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

We need Earthships!  If we all could build Earthships and live in them it would solve a lot of social issues.  If everyone on the planet had one we would have more time to fix other things, and we would all have food,

Get everyone food, keep the environment clean, get EVERYTHING you NEED for FREE! ---> Fix the rest of the world's problems. 

The only problem is that it's very hard to get a permit to build an Earthship because zoning boards don't allow it very often.  It should not be blocked!  Legalize Earthship construction!  Build Earthships!


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