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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: dwnlw2slw] * 2
    #19340669 - 12/29/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is disgusting that the holy sacramental plant is persecuted in our society, but in this situation the cops just need to announce themselves so the others can decide if they want to kill a cop, and not just protect themselves from anything that could happen. Some actions may warrant death but I'm sure not what that cop was doing

But the wishing for the death of cops and stuff over these stories is so disgusting and misguided I had to log in for the first time in years to comment.

Read up on the interconnected nature of reality and take some psychedelics and feel how you are not disconnected from any piece of reality ever, including that cop and all his friends and family,  and that those negative feelings are absolutely negatively effecting reality.  Change and effect it positively. Sheesh, good luck guys


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19340734 - 12/29/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

SOMEONE DIED OVER A PLANT...  BULLSH**T  The goverment has been able to use this way of thinking to keep laws in their favor. This act was due to very poor planning on the sheriff's part, he knew there where guns in the house, I mean why stake the guy out and pull him over when he leaves his house then execute a search on his house.  Seems eveyone in TX is a gun owner well most anyways. Guns &  potgrows are a real hard pill for me to swallow cause you need protection for your home but growing in the place you live in along with your pregnant wife, girlfriend is not a very good judgement call. It was probally a person who he knows well who gave the cops bogus info on him in the first place. I feel for both the guy in jail as well as the cops family he was doing what his boss told him to do.Its the sheriff who should be questioned about his method of serving warrants, he should give up his duties to someone who can make their community safer without being so gun-ho...


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19340883 - 12/29/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kodos said:
It is disgusting that the holy sacramental plant is persecuted in our society, but in this situation the cops just need to announce themselves so the others can decide if they want to kill a cop, and not just protect themselves from anything that could happen. Some actions may warrant death but I'm sure not what that cop was doing

But the wishing for the death of cops and stuff over these stories is so disgusting and misguided I had to log in for the first time in years to comment.

Read up on the interconnected nature of reality and take some psychedelics and feel how you are not disconnected from any piece of reality ever, including that cop and all his friends and family,  and that those negative feelings are absolutely negatively effecting reality.  Change and effect it positively. Sheesh, good luck guys




Well put.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: sololas]
    #19340921 - 12/29/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sololas said:
SOMEONE DIED OVER A PLANT...  BULLSH**T  The goverment has been able to use this way of thinking to keep laws in their favor. This act was due to very poor planning on the sheriff's part, he knew there where guns in the house, I mean why stake the guy out and pull him over when he leaves his house then execute a search on his house.  Seems eveyone in TX is a gun owner well most anyways. Guns &  potgrows are a real hard pill for me to swallow cause you need protection for your home but growing in the place you live in along with your pregnant wife, girlfriend is not a very good judgement call. It was probally a person who he knows well who gave the cops bogus info on him in the first place. I feel for both the guy in jail as well as the cops family he was doing what his boss told him to do.Its the sheriff who should be questioned about his method of serving warrants, he should give up his duties to someone who can make their community safer without being so gun-ho...



I don't understand. What do you have against growing pot in one's home?


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in. Give No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Ran-D]
    #19340977 - 12/29/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dont. But to do it in TX is asking for trouble, that state is so behind on laws and the law states no growing in TX. Does this make sense? I would not live in that state because of that either. Also it wasnt just him he was risking his girl and future child, poor decisions on his part in growing in TX. The sheriff is the one liable for his deputy's actions, he should be the one answering to the public, and not wait 5 days to release it out so he could get his story cleaned up. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HERBS IM GROWING SOME MYSELF....


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19341643 - 12/29/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kodos said:
holy sacramental plant




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19344991 - 12/30/13 04:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nobody is WISHING for cops to die. Seriously though, if it takes a cop's life to shed light on the situation, so that it's not repeated, then so be it. Contrarily, the death of a civilian usually doesn't have the same impact. Even still, the death of this cop has probably meant less to those who sent him than to those on this blog claiming to take 'delight.'

Also, the war on drugs being the misguided war on consciousness that it is...it's fundamentally 'evil'...it's the evil propaganda that maybe caused this cop to believe he was doing the right thing by going in there.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: dwnlw2slw]
    #19345593 - 12/30/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dwnlw2slw said:
Nobody is WISHING for cops to die.




So, you didn't read the thread before saying something so foolish.

Good for you. Most of us like to know what we're talking about before making such dumb comments.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19346726 - 12/30/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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dwnlw2slw said:
Nobody is WISHING for cops to die.




So, you didn't read the thread before saying something so foolish.

Good for you. Most of us like to know what we're talking about before making such dumb comments.




Maybe YOU should read the thread.  The comment was PIG.  There is a huge difference between a PIG and a cop.  A cop upholds the constitution of the USA.  A pig tramples on those rights.

My brother is a cop.

Do you really think I meant that I wish death on my brother?

So, maybe you would like to know what YOU are talking about before making such dumb comments.

There is a difference between "delighting" when a PIG gets what he deserves, and wishing for all cops to die.  So, don't be the foolish one again.

Also, please quote me when I even said I wish for a PIG's death.  I only said I delight in hearing the news.  Also a difference.

So, before you get your holier-than-thou attitude in a bunch again, please try to do what you lambast others for and actually READ.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19346909 - 12/30/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Jvells said:
Idk I haven't been in the situation before but dont you have a second to look before you grab your gun, look & point, then pull the trigger and pop pop. I mean he's wearing a bright blue uniform cmon... but whata i know i guess im wrong. I totally understand it could have been a burglary but w/e fuck it



A man defending a pregnant wife is not in the market to wait to verify someone in uniform.  When it is dark ouside, blue is black, and silhouettes are sometimes all you have.  If the police had any common sense, this would have been a variable.  There is NO WAY IN HELL that you can tell me that they were not aware of the pregnant wife.  They choose to ignore that fact.  Im pretty sure there is a psychological expert on the force that would have pointed out that a man in that situation may act brash.

Pot or not, sounds like a raid gone bad.  Where on earth would 2 people have hid 4 plants in a trailer that a dog couldn't have found it?  They should have used common sense and waited till daybreak and knocked first.  Wooops, now their error has cost one of them his own life, but they will try and pin that on the "criminal".

Why did they wait so long to divulge his death?  Why were none of the officers wearing cams?  This may have been legal for them to do, but it obviously was not the right thing to do.  No loss of life is worth any amount of pot, and my heart goes out to ALL of the victims here.

The officer who died
The expectant father
The mother
The child
ALL OF THEIR FAMILIES

We all know that this guy will never see the light of day, no matter how good his attorney is.  As others have pointed out, police have accidents with guns, while homeowners are criminals with guns.

Its sad no matter who is right, because at the end of the day, everyone involved will suffer.

I bet a knock on the door would have solved all the above issues.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19347026 - 12/30/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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MacMerdin said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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dwnlw2slw said:
Nobody is WISHING for cops to die.




So, you didn't read the thread before saying something so foolish.

Good for you. Most of us like to know what we're talking about before making such dumb comments.




Maybe YOU should read the thread.  The comment was PIG.  There is a huge difference between a PIG and a cop.  A cop upholds the constitution of the USA.  A pig tramples on those rights.

My brother is a cop.

Do you really think I meant that I wish death on my brother?

So, maybe you would like to know what YOU are talking about before making such dumb comments.

There is a difference between "delighting" when a PIG gets what he deserves, and wishing for all cops to die.  So, don't be the foolish one again.

Also, please quote me when I even said I wish for a PIG's death.  I only said I delight in hearing the news.  Also a difference.

So, before you get your holier-than-thou attitude in a bunch again, please try to do what you lambast others for and actually READ.




You delight in someones death. That's really all that needs to be said about what kind of human you are.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19347050 - 12/30/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You delight in someones death. That's really all that needs to be said about what kind of human you are.



QFT.

And pig/cop are both derogatory terms.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Ritual]
    #19347997 - 12/30/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ritual said:
Cop got what he deserved.

He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.

Hope he is reflecting on how much of a shitbag he was in hell.





Exactly. 

Hope the home owner does not get charged.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: FlusH]
    #19348148 - 12/30/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.







Exactly. 

Hope the home owner does not get charged.





Last I checked it was illegal in Texas, though Im not up on laws in other states and countries.  The police have a right to follow up on possible crimes, and most likely one of his "customers" ratted him out. 

The police showed up on a suspicion of STOLEN GUNS AND POT.  At what point did kicking in a door seem like a bright idea?  If you know/think someone has guns, why on earth would you act that way.

Anyone could have predicted this to end badly.  Its not good that someone died, but he died doing his job (as he signed up for). Even if he did make a mistake by breaking down a door, it certainly was not worth his life.

Ask around with local officers if they would put their life on the line for 2-4 pot plants.  Most will tell you flat up that they are worried about real crimes.  I can imagine here that the emphasis of the "no-knock" was that he allegedly had stolen guns.

This is the issue.  I think that WHOEVER advised the police, did it in a way that required them to act.  I would imagine that a pissed off customer/ex-friend ratted.  IF SOMEONE lied to the police about stolen guns (they found No stolen weapons), they should be charged as well for the same exact crime of murder.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19349847 - 12/31/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
You delight in someones death. That's really all that needs to be said about what kind of human you are.




Yup.  I'm the type of human who doesn't care when I hear of a casualty of the enemy in a stupid war.  I didn't declare war on them.  It was the other way around.  If the tactics of fighting the war on drugs changed, I would start feeling sorry for policeman and women who get injured or worse as they fight real crime.  But not ones who are foolish enough to go kicking in doors unannounced.  When the supposed crime was of all things "having guns".

I guess that makes me a bad person?

But, it's ok to be an asshole on a daily basis to most posters here?  What type of human are you?

Oh, wait...you already answered for us:

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luvdemshrooms said:
I was born to be an asshole.




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19349888 - 12/31/13 05:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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MacMerdin said:
I guess that makes me a bad person?




Nah. Not caring doesn't make you a bad person. Feeling "delight" at the deaths of others sure qualifies though.


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What type of human are you?




Well for starters, one who doesn't delight in the death of others.

And one clearly not as butthurt as you.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: huffinglue]
    #19349909 - 12/31/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think this is a pretty clear cut case of castle law.  Then again, I'm no lawyer.  I really hope this guy gets acquitted, although I don't think Texans take too kindly to the wacky tabaccy in those parts. 

It's hard to say whether this cop deserved what he got; personally, I'd like to see no deaths caused on either side of the drug war.




Yeah, were pretty bad on weed laws here, but we're even more gunho about the  right to protect your home with a gun. When the castle law went into effect, there were old people shooting at kids crossing there yard...




Don't get me wrong, I definitely believe in the right to own and defend your home with a firearm.  Old people shooting at kids crossing their yards is totally crazy, but if someone broke down my door in the wee morning hours, they'd get a warning, then I'd start shooting.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19350179 - 12/31/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I guess "delight" would be the wrong word to use as I don't wish death on anyone, nor delight in it.  I was having a real bad day when I typed that 

How about.....not feeling any remorse? 

Does that ease the bleeding heart's concerns around here?

And Buthurt?  Nah.  Not everyone who disagrees with you is "buthurt".




You're still an ass though.  Just my observation.....


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19350242 - 12/31/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You're correct. Not everyone who disagrees with me is butthurt. The shoe fits you though. Your butthurt during our exchanges has been priceless.

"Bleeding heart"? :laugh2: That's pretty much the funniest thing I've heard in some time. I personally feel nothing when most die. I simply don't care and it doesn't affect me. However, should the day come when I "delight" in the death of others, I hope I drop dead because that "delight" would make me a pretty shitty human.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19350359 - 12/31/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I changed the wording of my original post.

But, to show you how much of an asshole you are, you just told me you hope that I drop dead because I'm a shitty person (in so many words).

Isn't that wishing death on someone?

Pot....meet kettle.


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