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I am waiting for some Acacia confusa
#19346820 - 12/30/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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As per the advice of a fellow poster, I placed an order for Acacia confusa and Syrian Rue. I am creating this post for two reasons; I want to hear people's experiences and I want to document my own.
Although I have done a multitude of psychoactive drugs, I have never taken Ayahuasca. It's something I've thought about for a long time but the time just wasn't right. Now it is. And I understand that this combination isn't traditional Ayahuasca.
I've done N,N-DMT in the past. I took one medium dose and I had an amazing but short-lasting experience. This chemical felt magical to me. I simply cannot wait for my order to arrive. I have tried every other popular psychedelic.
From what I've read, this plant produces a short trip. However I believe it can be extremely intense. I would like to hear your experiences with Acacia confusa.
Most good trips have a specific goal in mind, right? This is mine. Although I have experienced full ego death in the past, I want to completely let go this time around. I have also had a few out of body experiences. However, I haven't taken a strong dose in a few years. That's just due to circumstances. But I have grown much since then, spiritually and otherwise. I want to allow this substance to exert its full effect over me without any resistance. I'm gonna take it and meditate into the trip to try to reduce my ego's struggle to... not die basically. I want to kill any fears I have of letting a psychedelic take over. I've had strong experiences in the past but it seems I would always try to hold on to reality. Opening my eyes during a strong closed eye experience, etc. I want to experience death and rebirth as in the shamanic traditions.
I plan to make two separate brews. One will have 10g of Syrian Rue (is this too much? is 5g enough) and the other 15g Acacia confusa, drank 30 minutes after the first. The Rue I will boil for 30 minutes. The Acacia I will do 3 separate washes with water at simmering for 2 hours each. I will then combine this and evaporate it down to about a shot.
Please point out any errors I might be making. I want to know before I do it.
Do you guys think I should start with 10g instead considering I have never taken Ayahuasca?
Is it okay to make the tea using finely shredded bark or should I powder it as well?
Any input you might have is appreciated. Thanks for reading all of this. The stuff should hopefully arrive in a week.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19346892 - 12/30/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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U dont need that much rue 4 will do the job
Good vibes and safe travels
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19346899 - 12/30/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have many similar questions...............watching this!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: SynKyd]
#19346923 - 12/30/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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have fun while vomiting you need only 5g rue
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: rikuni]
#19347046 - 12/30/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rikuni said: have fun while vomiting you need only 5g rue
I was kinda thinking that but was recommended something else.
Just thought of another question. Do I really have to cook the Acacia for hours? N,N-DMT's solubility may be better than 5-MeO. It just seems like overkill to me but I'll still do it if I'm unsure. I read one report where the guy simmered it for 30 minutes and he tripped.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19347080 - 12/30/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you cook it longer then you have a stronger brew. 30min can maybe work but will not be as strong.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: rikuni]
#19347219 - 12/30/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rikuni said: if you cook it longer then you have a stronger brew. 30min can maybe work but will not be as strong.
What is the point of diminishing returns? Like if the difference between 80% and 90% is 2 and 3 hours respectively then it might not be worth it depending on how cheap the stuff is.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19347258 - 12/30/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I actually made a similar thread yesterday you can check out im actually about to update if interested
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Is shredded bark (to very thin pieces) enough to make a tea or do I have to powder it? It seems like there's enough surface area but I want to make sure.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19350298 - 12/31/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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finely shredded is the best. If you have powder .... HAVE FUN Filtering that SHIT
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19387526 - 01/08/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Okay so it finally arrived.
I'm thinking of making a crude Syrian Rue extract in this way. Please tell me if you think the actives won't work.
Boil crushed seeds with lemon juice for 30 minutes. Strain the liquid. Boil that liquid away. I should be left with a goo I can cap, correct? As long as I don't burn it obviously.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19387728 - 01/08/14 11:50 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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When u going to do it
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19387925 - 01/08/14 12:19 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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As soon as I stop being sick. I caught the flu a couple days ago. So maybe Saturday.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19388067 - 01/08/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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How much ACRB are you going to use
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19388158 - 01/08/14 01:18 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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hey OP t-minus less than 24 hours until my first ever cook with the ingredients you listed. A bit over 36 hours until planned consumption. I will document every gritty little detail of the whole process and hit ya with some feedback.
Wish me luck my friends, it's time I re-experience my shamanic death and make exponential progress in my spiritual ventures
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19388189 - 01/08/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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1slow2v said: How much ACRB are you going to use
Gonna go with about 12 or 13g for my first time. My last trip was intense so I want to ease back into the psychedelic experience. From what I've read that should be a good experience but not mindblowing.
And lot_justice, I wish you luck sir! 
How much are you gonna use? Report back as soon as you do it. I might be able to read your experience before I dose. Hope you have an awesome trip.
I'm pretty damn excited about this plant.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19388387 - 01/08/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I plan on the 13-15 g range as well, but the tek I've come across insists that if prepared correctly, one can get a pretty face melting experience from such an amount. The acrb is going to be simmered for around 10 hours; the syrian for about an hour. I'm also planning to use the egg whites to remove the toxins which tend to make you purge hard.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19388407 - 01/08/14 02:21 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Besides the preparation of the brew, and the maoi fasting, there are several things which might feed the experience if you are spiritual in any way. I can't sit here and dictate to you what you should be doing the night before (meditating or cleaning your house or chanting, etc.). The lovely thing about ritual is that for it to be effective, it has to be spontaneous. As in, ritual serves a certain position in time, for a certain person. To really nail the overall ritual does not mean you should do anything like that the next time you approach the brew. Turn off the voice inside your head and listen to intuition over these next days, keep a reverence for the approaching hours, and perhaps the return on such courses of action will defy any sort of science behind diminishing returns or amounts of root bark.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19388579 - 01/08/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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15 will be extremely intense i have done this twice now. once at 18gs and once at 13gs it is EXTREMELY INTENSE d not under estimate the experience 13gs way more intense than a quarter of shrooms, and 18gs was more intense than my ~13g shroom trip by farrrrrr so be careful
If i would not have been sitting my buddy he would have been throwing up on his back
P.s I also did the egg white thing but still exorcists vomited
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19388820 - 01/08/14 03:46 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: Besides the preparation of the brew, and the maoi fasting, there are several things which might feed the experience if you are spiritual in any way. I can't sit here and dictate to you what you should be doing the night before (meditating or cleaning your house or chanting, etc.). The lovely thing about ritual is that for it to be effective, it has to be spontaneous. As in, ritual serves a certain position in time, for a certain person. To really nail the overall ritual does not mean you should do anything like that the next time you approach the brew. Turn off the voice inside your head and listen to intuition over these next days, keep a reverence for the approaching hours, and perhaps the return on such courses of action will defy any sort of science behind diminishing returns or amounts of root bark.
Yes thank you for telling me. I always try to cultivate a meditative state of mind free of preconceived notions before I trip.
Also, in response to the guy above I might just go with 8 or 10g. I don't want to take too little where I'm trying to find effects but also I don't want a really intense experience this time. I want to be able to stay relaxed and not get overwhelmed. Then next time I can increase the dose.
Thanks for the advice people.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19391746 - 01/09/14 02:10 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I am freezing my acrb tea ive heard it should be good for a long time but its less than a shot and is very see through as I started with 18g acrb and am hoping it blows my mind
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stuckinwonderland said: I am freezing my acrb tea ive heard it should be good for a long time but its less than a shot and is very see through as I started with 18g acrb and am hoping it blows my mind
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19395222 - 01/09/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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I just started an extraction with some of the bark I got. It's sitting in the lye solution right now. I'll report back with results.
Should be trying the tea on saturday. Feeling better now.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398338 - 01/10/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Well, a tea of somewhere around 4 g of syrian rue mixed with ginger is going down the hatch. Tastes rough, but not too rough. I already have a feeling that I most definitely am going to be vomiting today. Which is alright, because you have to lose that holiday weight somehow
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398487 - 01/10/14 11:24 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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WOW the purge- I think I puked solely from the syrian brew. However, because of the nature of my cooking, I had a rather large amount of Confusa tea to consume. I decided to take it slow- consuming the 13 g over the course of the next hour.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398553 - 01/10/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Aopocetx said: I just started an extraction with some of the bark I got. It's sitting in the lye solution right now. I'll report back with results.
Should be trying the tea on saturday. Feeling better now.
dont drink that you moron! Seriously you are gonna hurt yourself!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398631 - 01/10/14 11:55 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: WOW the purge- I think I puked solely from the syrian brew. However, because of the nature of my cooking, I had a rather large amount of Confusa tea to consume. I decided to take it slow- consuming the 13 g over the course of the next hour.
Wouldn't the MAOI have worn off by the time you got consuming the tea?
Which poses a good question. How long does the MAOI effect last?
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398829 - 01/10/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Well I just started simmering the Acacia. I think I'm gonna do it tonight and not saturday. I don't feel sick anymore. Wish me luck. Gonna fast from now until I do it, so like 8 hours.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398914 - 01/10/14 12:52 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: WOW the purge- I think I puked solely from the syrian brew. However, because of the nature of my cooking, I had a rather large amount of Confusa tea to consume. I decided to take it slow- consuming the 13 g over the course of the next hour.
Wouldn't the MAOI have worn off by the time you got consuming the tea?
Which poses a good question. How long does the MAOI effect last?
I've wondered how long it would last myself. However, I've read reports of people taking the aya brew without even adding the dmt plant material. They do it solely for the effects of the rue, which some people abuse as itself, as drug.
The mao-i inhibitor definitely wouldn't wear off so fast. I seem to recall reading somewhere that it actually outlasts the dmt trip. I think the report said that a few ours after the dmt trip ceased, they finally came down from the effects of the rue.
Oh and a quick synopsis thus far: Pretty sweet, but nothing insane. Definitely hit a sweet spot around 8 gram of dmt material and didn't want to drink any more of me tea. After a half hour this subsided and I went back to my tea.
Very therapeutic. GREAT for pain issues throughout the body. You can remain pretty coherent when you need to be, but if you let your mind wander, or better yet, if you SILENCE your mind, that's when the great mental stuff happens.
Ain't got nothing compared to the holiest of all substances, LSD, but it seems to be more of a homeopathic cure-all than an actual "trip" I'd suggest consuming once a week, at least once every 2 weeks, if you can find the time!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398950 - 01/10/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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I also wouldn't worry too much about still being sick. The brew will probably help with that- in indigenous cultures, many people would consume aya not because they were shamans, but because they had caught a serious virus.
Pay attentions to vibrations. DMT operates on a very energetic frequency. Although it is inside of you, it remains just barely outside of you, pulsating at the vibration. The only way to feed the experience is to mimic its vibration in every fiber of your being. Then the two of you will truly come into union
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398975 - 01/10/14 01:04 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: Oh and a quick synopsis thus far: Pretty sweet, but nothing insane. Definitely hit a sweet spot around 8 gram of dmt material and didn't want to drink any more of me tea. After a half hour this subsided and I went back to my tea.
How can you compare it to shrooms or L intensity wise? Did you get any visuals or interesting thoughts? This was at 8g right?
Sounds pretty mild so I'm gonna go with my original dose of 15g. I have etizolam to keep me relaxed so I can really let go.
Oh and I know some people say benzos (eti is close) kill the trip but that's not true in my experience. They just made it a lot easier to manage. They DO dull some of the profound thoughts somewhat but I will only take a small dose to stay calm.
So excited. I know this isn't truly Ayahuasca but I was reading about how shamans use Ayahuasca and they have spirit helpers and "darts" that they keep in their stomach which can be used to hurt or kill others. I wanna try to figure out what they mean by this. Supposedly though, you can only get a dart by buying it from a shaman who has more than one so I would have no way of getting one. And guys I totally realize it works for them because of their cultural mindset but I'm openminded and would like to get an idea of what happens.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
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How can you compare it to shrooms or L intensity wise? Did you get any visuals or interesting thoughts? This was at 8g right?
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I eventually climbed my way to the full 13 g. It did turn into a full blown trip after I had been done purging for about 45 minutes. There was a period of time where I became very lethargic and didn't want to move. Just sat with my eyes closed and experienced very vibrant closed eye visuals as well as weird, soothing body sensations.
I don't know if you've smoked dmt before but dmt is not intense. Yes the visuals are unique and very prominent (beautiful geometric shapes; deity like figures popping up out of them) but once you actually adjust to being in hyperspace, there is nothing "intense" about it - you'll notice your body is incredibly calm. For me, no elevation in heart rate or disruption in normal breathing patterns. It doesn't even really disrupt my ability to think rationally. It feels very "natural" as if society could function without drastic changes if suddenly every person was in the throes of a dmt trip 24/7.
I don't know how I feel about shrooms, I just know that I can't ever really "get off" on them, although they can be great tools for opening the subconscious. Acid on the other hand, is by far more intense than this. If there are doors to perception, dmt and shrooms unlock them. Acid kicks the fucking door in. Which is dangerous for some, and the only path to freedom for others.
This being said, the closed eye visuals you get for this will probably be more pronounced and filled out than any closed eye visuals you get from L (depending on the dose).
This being said people often talk about "hyperspace" some mistakenly refer to it as "DMT hyperspace". Dmt is simply a bus ticket to hyperspace. LSD is an empty bus. You can get to the same place, but you have to drive yourself. You can also end up somewhere far, far away from the intended course.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
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As for "interesting thoughts" - I definitely got possesed during this experiment. People talk of mother Aya, the loving spirit. The drug itself didn't cause my strange thoughts, it was only when she descended down (and I was very conscious that she did) that I sort of lost control of my flow of thoughts. My thoughts became like movies and I was simply the observer, learning from what she was showing me. She didn't show me any profound "secrets of the universe" type stuff- just was concerned with the day to day things. How I should handle certain relationships. Helped me to reach deeper knowledge on the motivations of people in my life in order for me to better understand them.
But the weirdddd part of the trip was during the peak, I had experienced it before. As in, I had sat in the same chair, feeling the same sensations, with the exact kind of lighting, thinking the same things and seeing the same visuals. I've come across this more than a few times in my life. Linear time itself is up for debate. With it is free will. And the nature of the universe. Is it like that theory where the universe expands until it collapses back on itself and then the same process begin all over again (living the same life multiple times).
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
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How can you compare it to shrooms or L intensity wise? Did you get any visuals or interesting thoughts? This was at 8g right?
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I eventually climbed my way to the full 13 g. It did turn into a full blown trip after I had been done purging for about 45 minutes. There was a period of time where I became very lethargic and didn't want to move. Just sat with my eyes closed and experienced very vibrant closed eye visuals as well as weird, soothing body sensations.
I don't know if you've smoked dmt before but dmt is not intense. Yes the visuals are unique and very prominent (beautiful geometric shapes; deity like figures popping up out of them) but once you actually adjust to being in hyperspace, there is nothing "intense" about it - you'll notice your body is incredibly calm. For me, no elevation in heart rate or disruption in normal breathing patterns. It doesn't even really disrupt my ability to think rationally. It feels very "natural" as if society could function without drastic changes if suddenly every person was in the throes of a dmt trip 24/7.
I don't know how I feel about shrooms, I just know that I can't ever really "get off" on them, although they can be great tools for opening the subconscious. Acid on the other hand, is by far more intense than this. If there are doors to perception, dmt and shrooms unlock them. Acid kicks the fucking door in. Which is dangerous for some, and the only path to freedom for others.
This being said, the closed eye visuals you get for this will probably be more pronounced and filled out than any closed eye visuals you get from L (depending on the dose).
This being said people often talk about "hyperspace" some mistakenly refer to it as "DMT hyperspace". Dmt is simply a bus ticket to hyperspace. LSD is an empty bus. You can get to the same place, but you have to drive yourself. You can also end up somewhere far, far away from the intended course.
Oh wow dude! Thank you so much for sharing. I've been waiting to experience a trip like you described. The closest was when on mushrooms I had my eyes closed and I was in a store in the midieval ages buying something with coins.
Anyway, I'm gonna do the same dose as you - 13g. Then I'm gonna put on some music and lay down with my eyes closed. Thanks again for sharing.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
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No prob. Hope all goes well for you and your experience!
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Finished brewing the tea. Did 2 washes for a total of 5 hours. I capped 5g of ground Rue which I will take 30 mins before the tea. This sound right? The tea is one good shot.
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Will the etiz be dangerous with the rue
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Yeah the etiz is a big iffy situation. I didn't cap my rue I drank it as a tea instead, let me know how that goes for you. As sleepy as I was feeling during my trip, I think with the etiz you may run a serious risk of sleeping through your trip (if not health risks, too).
How did you get your tea down to one shot? Mine was like 4 travel mugs worth lol; took forever to consume
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Yikes 5 grams of raw rue is really way too much and is likely going to be extremely nasty even on its own!
13 grams of Acacia?
Hope you know what you're doing bud!
Why start so high before you have even tested out a small dose? I would humbly advise you start at 3 grams and work your way up!
Trust me many of the dosages reported online are utterly ludicrous as everyone's materials can vary dramatically! It's rather like never having drunk before and immediately downing a bottle of vodka for your fist time!
In a way I have no right telling you this cause I made the very same mistakes with the Syrian rue concoction myself once and now looking back do not regret them one little bit!
At the time however... Mummy please help me was I think the overwhelming sentiment that night!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
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lot_justice said: How did you get your tea down to one shot? Mine was like 4 travel mugs worth lol; took forever to consume
It was just a matter of waiting for the water to evaporate as I was simmering it (I don't know if you can even call it simmering, there was a lone bubble once in a while and stuff was moving around). But yeah if you have a lot of liquid, just set it on a low heat for a while and it will evaporate down.
Mine is thick and orange. Yours too? Probably not very thick.
And wolf, you're right. Damn I keep changing what my dose is gonna be. Like 5 times now in this thread. But I have enough material to where I can keep going up slowly. The reason I was gonna do 13g is just because I'm used to tripping hard and I wanted to get full effects.
Man, me and my girl had a big fight tonight so I'm just gonna do it tomorrow.
If someone could comment on how rue works capped I would love to know. I just need to know if waiting 30 minutes is enough considering the gelcaps need to dissolve. And are you guys saying something like 3g is enough? I figured if I used a good amount I would get some harmala effects in my trip which is mildly psychedelic if I remember correctly.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
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Mine was grapefruit juice colored, not very thick. Not unpleasant to drink at all. The rue really roughed me up at 5 g though, I'd scale it back to 4 and see from there. If I were you, I'd just stagger your consumption of your brew. Kill half and then come back for more a bit later.
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Dude i have tripped alot and on large doses so i dont know if you had a weak batch or what but mine at thirteen was pretty intense and if you step up to 18 lsd cant come close
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
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I've dropped 25 hits of 170 mic L before. My personal radar on what is intense or not probably deviates from the norm. Also, dmt just isn't super intense for me. Yes, I will find my body rocking in crazy spasms and see lots of beuatiful visuals, but it feels normal. Nothing I do while under the influence of it even makes me raise my eyebrows, and I've yet to find a dose that can yet. In the end once I had the peak moment I had a pretty "hard trip" but I was incredibly comfortable the whole time.
I stand by my initial statement that DMT is like buying a ticket for the bus whereas LSD is being given the bus. DMT is the drug of the chosen people. You get to sit on your throne and feel the benevolence of many spirits who will coddle you. LSD nearly puts you onto the same level as those spirits. You become the contemporary, and there's a peril and wildness to it which DMT has yet to be able to touch for me.
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I can think of several glimpses from my trip today which would seem intense to the outsider. Me lying on the floor on my side inexplicably moaning weird animalistic noises and my entire body shakes to the beat of some intangible drum, as if I was a snake on the floor wiggling, or someone seizing. My insights on the fact that I had experienced this exact trip before somehow. The closed eye visuals I had in which the dmt hyperspace is the bottom of one of many legs on a mother squid who, whether people know it or not, is influencing the day to day lives and decision of each person who is at the end of one of her legs.
All this stuff hits with a very nonchalant, "you already knew this though." feeling.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
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I'm sorry I disagree with you on an experience that is subjective?
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And wolf, you're right. Damn I keep changing what my dose is gonna be. Like 5 times now in this thread. But I have enough material to where I can keep going up slowly. The reason I was gonna do 13g is just because I'm used to tripping hard and I wanted to get full effects.
Despite at that point like you being used to high doses of psychedelics, and despite expecting something much much greater, I never myself knew that such ferocious skull fucking intensity could even be possible! The absolute intensest of all intense intensities intensifying ever more intensely! I'm not sure if even a pint of LSD could get anywhere near it!
For me I really felt like I was for sure going to die, because I couldn't very well believe that the human mind would be able to withstand such eye-popping insanity without imploding from the inside out!
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If someone could comment on how rue works capped I would love to know. I just need to know if waiting 30 minutes is enough considering the gelcaps need to dissolve. And are you guys saying something like 3g is enough? I figured if I used a good amount I would get some harmala effects in my trip which is mildly psychedelic if I remember correctly.
My sweet spot is 2 grams raw! 1 gram is not enough and lacks all the therapeutic qualities that rue brings to the table, whereas at three grams the side effects begin to get rather nasty and the effect of the rue starts to cloud out the effects of the DMT!
Still, everyone is different and you will need to find your own sweet spot! I don't use gelcap's myself, I powder the rue and when I'm good to go wash it down with coke and then chase that down with some more coke for the taste! Taken cold and quick, its not really that bad! Don't boil it though cause then it will be utterly foul!
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My sweet spot is 2 grams raw! 1 gram is not enough and lacks all the therapeutic qualities that rue brings to the table, whereas at three grams the side effects begin to get rather nasty and the effect of the rue starts to cloud out the effects of the DMT!
Still, everyone is different and you will need to find your own sweet spot! I don't use gelcap's myself, I powder the rue and when I'm good to go wash it down with coke and then chase that down with some more coke for the taste! Taken cold and quick, its not really that bad! Don't boil it though cause then it will be utterly foul!
Thank you for sharing :] just did a new trial myself with 5 g of bark and 2 g of rue. Much more enjoyable than anything I had experienced earlier in day on 5 g of rue. I would concur that the rue can blot out the effect of dmt when taken is excess.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
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I woke up today and the sediment in my drink has settled to the bottom and on top is a grapefruit colored (like you said) clear liquid. So anyway, today is the day. I'll lower my Rue dosage too.
Hopefully I can be like lot_justice and have an awesome experience.
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Aopocetx said: I woke up today and the sediment in my drink has settled to the bottom and on top is a grapefruit colored (like you said) clear liquid. So anyway, today is the day. I'll lower my Rue dosage too.
Hopefully I can be like lot_justice and have an awesome experience.
I wish you the best man. I'll keep ya in my thoughts, send some good will your way. Be sure to report back on your experience! And don't go get getting any darts blown at you by a dmt spirit
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Aopocetx said: I woke up today and the sediment in my drink has settled to the bottom and on top is a grapefruit colored (like you said) clear liquid. So anyway, today is the day. I'll lower my Rue dosage too.
Hopefully I can be like lot_justice and have an awesome experience.
I wish you the best man. I'll keep ya in my thoughts, send some good will your way. Be sure to report back on your experience! And don't go get getting any darts blown at you by a dmt spirit 
Wouldn't it have to be another shaman?
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
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Brings up an interesting point about the death of certain shamans. Supposedly the top dawgs succeed in escaping a normal death. If their life is successful, some shamans supposedly just sort of slip out of existence when their time comes, rather than pass away. Supposedly a band of shamans get together to do this, and make a purposeful transition into the other realms when their collective time is at hand.
Which begs the question, what is the point of this? It may sound hokey, but I myself have accidentally stepped into different planes (or maybe not so accidentally, it felt like there were other shamans around at the time which used energy fields that sort of influenced my behaviors). I'm wondering if just as I was able to come back from these places to my physical body, if the shaman notion of never quite dying is a way of reaching some sort of christ-like status in which they plan a second coming in which they will still have their body, and will be able to carry out some purpose here on Earth using the skillsets they have acquired while on the other side.
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lot_justice said: Brings up an interesting point about the death of certain shamans. Supposedly the top dawgs succeed in escaping a normal death. If their life is successful, some shamans supposedly just sort of slip out of existence when their time comes, rather than pass away. Supposedly a band of shamans get together to do this, and make a purposeful transition into the other realms when their collective time is at hand.
Which begs the question, what is the point of this? It may sound hokey, but I myself have accidentally stepped into different planes (or maybe not so accidentally, it felt like there were other shamans around at the time which used energy fields that sort of influenced my behaviors). I'm wondering if just as I was able to come back from these places to my physical body, if the shaman notion of never quite dying is a way of reaching some sort of christ-like status in which they plan a second coming in which they will still have their body, and will be able to carry out some purpose here on Earth using the skillsets they have acquired while on the other side.
I don't know about coming back for some purpose but maybe it's similar to Buddhist teachings where they try to escape from the cycle of death and rebirth. Actually I've heard that idea you're talking about. Do you know of any books that talk about it? Now that you mentioned it I'm dying to read more (ba-dum-chi).
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With books on shamanism I often find two poles: Either they very dry and written by white anthropologists in the 1930's who subtly discriminate against the indigenous cultures, or they are from former anthropologists who leap over the line of academic and lose all credibility, falling into the fiction category. This being said, I believe that the people who chose to sacrifice their academic credibility often take us further to the heart of things.
The Shaman's Body is a book by Arthur Mindell which is quite excellent. Mindell does retain his credibility, and is very open minded.
I suggest the Carlos Casteneda books. It's only through strange personal experiences that I can say these books have great worth. Otherwise, I would write them off as good reads, and consider Carlos a total hack. Stick to his Don Juan books; After Don Juan himself left for eternity Carlos started saying some wild shit in his books that I don't know how to feel about.
There's a wonderful book called "Rock Crystals and Peyote Dreams" about the Huichol. I can't remember who wrote it, but that book never strays too far from the anthropological viewpoint and is incredibly lucid.
"The Four Winds: A Shaman's Odyssey into the Amazon" by Villoldo and Jendrensen is a great book as well.
Finally there's a Russian psychologist named olga kharitidi who wrote "Into the Circle" and "The Master of Lucid Dreams". These books definitely toe the line of factual credibility, but anything of true value in the realm of Shamanism often does. Even if everything in her stories was a complete work of utter fiction, there's an underlying power which inhabits the words of her stories. These books are definitely worth reading. Nothing life shattering, but they will get the wheels spinning.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
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And the notion of Shaman's leaving body and all (like the Virgin Mary never died and just ascended directly into heaven, leaving no trace behind) probably isn't related to anything Buddhist at all. The Buddhists don't like the body. They wouldn't condone an attachment to it that goes beyond this world.
I'm going to be straight up- Buddhists texts which try to school the practitioners to despise the body, and therefore refute sexuality, are some of the most depreciating piles of vile garbage I've ever come across. They try to point out to how you never truly love a woman's body, you love how she dresses it up with scents and the such, because naturally the body, as they would have you believe, is a "putrid" thing. They are a shining example of rationality run rampant; a constant attempt to thwart out the animal intuition shamanism praises.
For the Shaman there is no sure-all way to escape suffering forever, but the true warrior learns how to live outside of it 99.9% of the time on Earth, and he does this before he makes that journey into the other realms. It's not a question of escaping suffering when he leaves. It's also not an escape of death because the shaman usually dies at the very beginning of their training/shamanic life. That's usually the true jump start into the game. You have to die and then you're back, but the You that you were before isn't really back. You're somebody else entirely, and the person that you are isn't fully present in this world. He has one foot in this world, and one foot in the other.
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I've read Castaneda's first book and I loved it. I'll check out those other books. Thanks.
I have one last question. Do you think I shouldn't take etizolam with the Syrian Rue? I was just gonna have it in case I needed to be calmed down but I don't know about interactions with MAOIs. Does it have interactions? I can't find much on Google.
Edit: actually I found some stuff that says it's safe so nevermind.
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When u doing it i gor some on the stove too
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I just took the Rue so in 30 minutes. Maybe I'll meet you in hyperspace later?
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I am, thanks. 
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I don't know what went wrong but I got a mild trip from 13g.
If I stare at my ceiling, a fog quickly hides everything else. The painting disappears. The popcorn in the ceiling arranges into certain shapes. That, or it travels around.
Looking at the cheetah print carpet, the black blobs seem to spread out like watercolor paint on paper. Then they move in different directions in unison, seemingly aligned with my breathing.
When I turned the light on, I saw what looked like snow made out of blue, white, and green dots. It was very vivid. When I turned the light on, saw red orbs around the room. With the light off, there was shadows moving around.
When it first started, I had my eyes closed and I was getting very interesting visuals. I would see strange shapes that weren't kaleidoscopic in nature but rather organic. At a couple points, I saw myself in situations regarding my anxiety. I feel like if I was on a higher dose I could have seen an answer. The CEVs continued for a couple hours but now they're gone.
Before, new images would pop up. Now - nothing. Except, if I look at something like my closet door for a while and close my eyes, it will stay in my vision for basically forever.
I'm disappointed it wasn't strong but I LOVE the trip. It's the most organic feeling psychedelic I've ever tried. Just wish it was stronger!!
Do you guys have any ideas as to why it was so weak? I got the stuff from a vendor that someone on here told me about and he said he took the same amount and tripped HARD.
As for body feeling and mental feeling, I feel dead-ass sober. I still have visuals though but they're not interesting without the insights. I was getting mild insights at first and then it went away.
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I just drank 13gs worth from the ill report back to u later
The first time i tried it though i did 18g and later that night did 13g more at the first feeling of sober might be why the second one was so intense though
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19405770 - 01/11/14 08:51 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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And did you take the etiz
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19405964 - 01/11/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah did you take the etiz? What was your exact preparation for the dmt containing material? I heard something about lye? What was up with that?
My experience on 5 g of bark and 2 g of rue last night never got "intense" but it lasted somewhere around 8 hours and was awesome. I felt down about three hours in, was even reading some. Ate a light meal and then BAM it came up on me again. Had to put my book down and enjoy the closed eyes for a while.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19407053 - 01/12/14 06:13 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Another thing to consider: the rue. Did you get palpable effects from the capsules? I've heard of junk rue being passed around online
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19407060 - 01/12/14 06:17 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah actually I took Etiz. You think DMT just doesn't like it and my trip got totally fucked? Although I've never had a benzo (or thenzo) kill a trip like that.
My prep was simmered (before bubbles form, but stuff was moving) for 2 and a half hours, then I did the same thing with different water, then I combined the water and let it evaporate down to about a cup with 25g worth.
I put that in the fridge overnight. It went from orange and thick to purple or grapefruit-ish and not thick. What I believed were the tannins dropped to the bottom.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407109 - 01/12/14 06:47 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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If we cross out of the realm of anything scientific and get purely conjectural with the spirit of the drug, I think that unless you had some sort of physical dependence on etiz, taking it was a slap in the face to mother aya. My experience with Aya is one of absolutely no fear. That's because dmt turns you into a bit of a beast (for instance check this point from the faq of the DMT nexus: 4) DMT is, perhaps, a neurotransmitter in reptilian brains and in the older, reptilian parts of mammalian brains. Flooding the human brain with DMT causes the older reptilian parts of the brain to dominate consciousness, resulting in a state of awareness which appears totally alien (and sometimes very frightening) to the everyday monkey mind.))
I definitely feel like a bit of a dinosaur when I've consumed DMT. I feel VICIOUS. I usually chant "ohhhhh yessssssssss" like I'm that slytherin snake from Harry Potter and swagger around giggling to myself at how easy it seems at the moment to go out into the wild and catch a wild deer with my bare hands.
I can imagine a benzo forcing my engrained "humanity" to remain and that this would subtract greatly from the appeal of the trip.
But who knows? Just try it again without etiz using the same bark. That's the only real way to get any answers.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19407128 - 01/12/14 06:54 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yep you're right. To be honest with you my last trip really shook me up and I took 1 eti for the Acacia. But now that I've felt the trip, I'm not scared. It feels organic, natural, and healing. As opposed to my DOB trip which feels synthetic and unnatural. So I got part of what I wanted, which is to enjoy psychedelics again and be encapsulated by them without fear.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407138 - 01/12/14 06:56 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Oh Geeze yeah DOB can be terrifying. Stimulants mixed with psychs? A tweaker's dream, sent many a head either straight to their local meth markets after comedown, or the psych ward if they couldn't make it that far
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19407148 - 01/12/14 06:59 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah what a shitty drug. I'm not gonna say I didn't get anything out of it, because I did, but why a psychedelic combined with a strong stimulant? I just kept getting TOO excited at everything. I was so tired 24 hours later haha.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407251 - 01/12/14 07:53 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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good news, I dont think you can handle higher dose trips 4 sure  So you had very much luck with it.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: SynKyd]
#19407346 - 01/12/14 08:29 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Do you guys think it wasn't potent because I didn't add lemon juice?
I don't see how taking 2mg of etizolam could have reduced the trip to that extent. I've taken acid on Xanax and I still tripped hard.
But I'm gonna say this again, is it bad that I left out the sediment that fell to the bottom while I had it in the fridge? I saw a recipe that said you should do it.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407628 - 01/12/14 10:06 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Lemon juice shouldn't be a factor whatsoever. Acid is a totally different game to the synapses than dmt. LSD has a fierceness, hard to sedate it. I don't know if the etiz killed this trip, but the acid on xanax past experience won't translate to the current situation.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407637 - 01/12/14 10:09 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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So i simmered 26gs of ACRB for 2.5hrs per wash for a total of 3 washes adding vinegar each wash
Then reduced to a quater pint and addng 2 egg whites and split in half
While the Acrb was cooling i simmered 3.8gs of rue and reduced to a shot
9:45 Acrb was ingested leaving the sediment that had settled some time later i was tripping face hard enough that i felt a blackout coming while thinking i was about vomit thought that i was going to die seemed to be fighting it last night and couldnt let go
Probaly had something to do with having to sit with my friend as he was trying to vomit on his back off aya a couple weeks ago
Sometime later i no longer thought that i was going die and never threw up but was still tripping insanly hard and very hard to stand with many introspective thoughts and amazing visuals
Around ~2:30 still tripping very obviously but not so intense was finally able to walk to store for cigs when but could barely maintain when i got in there the gas station is right next door 2 min walk
When i got back i drank ~7gs more ACRB intensity raised significantly bit no where near being out my comfort zone if i had to compare the second round i would say it was roughly around 8gs of cubes when the waves hit but a differnt feel
Around 4:30 quickly sobering up still noticably effects when lights are on or change locations at 5ish laid nodded out
I know we used the same vendor for the ACRB OP so the differnce would be the
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19407934 - 01/12/14 11:22 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ok so next time I won't take the etiz and also how did you take your Rue and how much? I'll do what you did.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407992 - 01/12/14 11:46 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ground 3.8gs simmered in water with a splash of vinegar for 30mins
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19408156 - 01/12/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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So what about brewing the tea? Am I supposed to simmer it where it has bubbles or just below that point which is what I did?
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19408271 - 01/12/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ive been doing mine where it barely bubbles
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