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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19391746 - 01/09/14 02:10 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I am freezing my acrb tea ive heard it should be good for a long time but its less than a shot and is very see through as I started with 18g acrb and am hoping it blows my mind
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stuckinwonderland said: I am freezing my acrb tea ive heard it should be good for a long time but its less than a shot and is very see through as I started with 18g acrb and am hoping it blows my mind
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19395222 - 01/09/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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I just started an extraction with some of the bark I got. It's sitting in the lye solution right now. I'll report back with results.
Should be trying the tea on saturday. Feeling better now.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398338 - 01/10/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Well, a tea of somewhere around 4 g of syrian rue mixed with ginger is going down the hatch. Tastes rough, but not too rough. I already have a feeling that I most definitely am going to be vomiting today. Which is alright, because you have to lose that holiday weight somehow
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398487 - 01/10/14 11:24 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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WOW the purge- I think I puked solely from the syrian brew. However, because of the nature of my cooking, I had a rather large amount of Confusa tea to consume. I decided to take it slow- consuming the 13 g over the course of the next hour.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398553 - 01/10/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Aopocetx said: I just started an extraction with some of the bark I got. It's sitting in the lye solution right now. I'll report back with results.
Should be trying the tea on saturday. Feeling better now.
dont drink that you moron! Seriously you are gonna hurt yourself!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398631 - 01/10/14 11:55 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: WOW the purge- I think I puked solely from the syrian brew. However, because of the nature of my cooking, I had a rather large amount of Confusa tea to consume. I decided to take it slow- consuming the 13 g over the course of the next hour.
Wouldn't the MAOI have worn off by the time you got consuming the tea?
Which poses a good question. How long does the MAOI effect last?
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398829 - 01/10/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Well I just started simmering the Acacia. I think I'm gonna do it tonight and not saturday. I don't feel sick anymore. Wish me luck. Gonna fast from now until I do it, so like 8 hours.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19398914 - 01/10/14 12:52 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: WOW the purge- I think I puked solely from the syrian brew. However, because of the nature of my cooking, I had a rather large amount of Confusa tea to consume. I decided to take it slow- consuming the 13 g over the course of the next hour.
Wouldn't the MAOI have worn off by the time you got consuming the tea?
Which poses a good question. How long does the MAOI effect last?
I've wondered how long it would last myself. However, I've read reports of people taking the aya brew without even adding the dmt plant material. They do it solely for the effects of the rue, which some people abuse as itself, as drug.
The mao-i inhibitor definitely wouldn't wear off so fast. I seem to recall reading somewhere that it actually outlasts the dmt trip. I think the report said that a few ours after the dmt trip ceased, they finally came down from the effects of the rue.
Oh and a quick synopsis thus far: Pretty sweet, but nothing insane. Definitely hit a sweet spot around 8 gram of dmt material and didn't want to drink any more of me tea. After a half hour this subsided and I went back to my tea.
Very therapeutic. GREAT for pain issues throughout the body. You can remain pretty coherent when you need to be, but if you let your mind wander, or better yet, if you SILENCE your mind, that's when the great mental stuff happens.
Ain't got nothing compared to the holiest of all substances, LSD, but it seems to be more of a homeopathic cure-all than an actual "trip" I'd suggest consuming once a week, at least once every 2 weeks, if you can find the time!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398950 - 01/10/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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I also wouldn't worry too much about still being sick. The brew will probably help with that- in indigenous cultures, many people would consume aya not because they were shamans, but because they had caught a serious virus.
Pay attentions to vibrations. DMT operates on a very energetic frequency. Although it is inside of you, it remains just barely outside of you, pulsating at the vibration. The only way to feed the experience is to mimic its vibration in every fiber of your being. Then the two of you will truly come into union
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19398975 - 01/10/14 01:04 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: Oh and a quick synopsis thus far: Pretty sweet, but nothing insane. Definitely hit a sweet spot around 8 gram of dmt material and didn't want to drink any more of me tea. After a half hour this subsided and I went back to my tea.
How can you compare it to shrooms or L intensity wise? Did you get any visuals or interesting thoughts? This was at 8g right?
Sounds pretty mild so I'm gonna go with my original dose of 15g. I have etizolam to keep me relaxed so I can really let go.
Oh and I know some people say benzos (eti is close) kill the trip but that's not true in my experience. They just made it a lot easier to manage. They DO dull some of the profound thoughts somewhat but I will only take a small dose to stay calm.
So excited. I know this isn't truly Ayahuasca but I was reading about how shamans use Ayahuasca and they have spirit helpers and "darts" that they keep in their stomach which can be used to hurt or kill others. I wanna try to figure out what they mean by this. Supposedly though, you can only get a dart by buying it from a shaman who has more than one so I would have no way of getting one. And guys I totally realize it works for them because of their cultural mindset but I'm openminded and would like to get an idea of what happens.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19399609 - 01/10/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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How can you compare it to shrooms or L intensity wise? Did you get any visuals or interesting thoughts? This was at 8g right?
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I eventually climbed my way to the full 13 g. It did turn into a full blown trip after I had been done purging for about 45 minutes. There was a period of time where I became very lethargic and didn't want to move. Just sat with my eyes closed and experienced very vibrant closed eye visuals as well as weird, soothing body sensations.
I don't know if you've smoked dmt before but dmt is not intense. Yes the visuals are unique and very prominent (beautiful geometric shapes; deity like figures popping up out of them) but once you actually adjust to being in hyperspace, there is nothing "intense" about it - you'll notice your body is incredibly calm. For me, no elevation in heart rate or disruption in normal breathing patterns. It doesn't even really disrupt my ability to think rationally. It feels very "natural" as if society could function without drastic changes if suddenly every person was in the throes of a dmt trip 24/7.
I don't know how I feel about shrooms, I just know that I can't ever really "get off" on them, although they can be great tools for opening the subconscious. Acid on the other hand, is by far more intense than this. If there are doors to perception, dmt and shrooms unlock them. Acid kicks the fucking door in. Which is dangerous for some, and the only path to freedom for others.
This being said, the closed eye visuals you get for this will probably be more pronounced and filled out than any closed eye visuals you get from L (depending on the dose).
This being said people often talk about "hyperspace" some mistakenly refer to it as "DMT hyperspace". Dmt is simply a bus ticket to hyperspace. LSD is an empty bus. You can get to the same place, but you have to drive yourself. You can also end up somewhere far, far away from the intended course.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19399627 - 01/10/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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As for "interesting thoughts" - I definitely got possesed during this experiment. People talk of mother Aya, the loving spirit. The drug itself didn't cause my strange thoughts, it was only when she descended down (and I was very conscious that she did) that I sort of lost control of my flow of thoughts. My thoughts became like movies and I was simply the observer, learning from what she was showing me. She didn't show me any profound "secrets of the universe" type stuff- just was concerned with the day to day things. How I should handle certain relationships. Helped me to reach deeper knowledge on the motivations of people in my life in order for me to better understand them.
But the weirdddd part of the trip was during the peak, I had experienced it before. As in, I had sat in the same chair, feeling the same sensations, with the exact kind of lighting, thinking the same things and seeing the same visuals. I've come across this more than a few times in my life. Linear time itself is up for debate. With it is free will. And the nature of the universe. Is it like that theory where the universe expands until it collapses back on itself and then the same process begin all over again (living the same life multiple times).
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19399983 - 01/10/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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How can you compare it to shrooms or L intensity wise? Did you get any visuals or interesting thoughts? This was at 8g right?
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I eventually climbed my way to the full 13 g. It did turn into a full blown trip after I had been done purging for about 45 minutes. There was a period of time where I became very lethargic and didn't want to move. Just sat with my eyes closed and experienced very vibrant closed eye visuals as well as weird, soothing body sensations.
I don't know if you've smoked dmt before but dmt is not intense. Yes the visuals are unique and very prominent (beautiful geometric shapes; deity like figures popping up out of them) but once you actually adjust to being in hyperspace, there is nothing "intense" about it - you'll notice your body is incredibly calm. For me, no elevation in heart rate or disruption in normal breathing patterns. It doesn't even really disrupt my ability to think rationally. It feels very "natural" as if society could function without drastic changes if suddenly every person was in the throes of a dmt trip 24/7.
I don't know how I feel about shrooms, I just know that I can't ever really "get off" on them, although they can be great tools for opening the subconscious. Acid on the other hand, is by far more intense than this. If there are doors to perception, dmt and shrooms unlock them. Acid kicks the fucking door in. Which is dangerous for some, and the only path to freedom for others.
This being said, the closed eye visuals you get for this will probably be more pronounced and filled out than any closed eye visuals you get from L (depending on the dose).
This being said people often talk about "hyperspace" some mistakenly refer to it as "DMT hyperspace". Dmt is simply a bus ticket to hyperspace. LSD is an empty bus. You can get to the same place, but you have to drive yourself. You can also end up somewhere far, far away from the intended course.
Oh wow dude! Thank you so much for sharing. I've been waiting to experience a trip like you described. The closest was when on mushrooms I had my eyes closed and I was in a store in the midieval ages buying something with coins.
Anyway, I'm gonna do the same dose as you - 13g. Then I'm gonna put on some music and lay down with my eyes closed. Thanks again for sharing.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19400064 - 01/10/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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No prob. Hope all goes well for you and your experience!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19400222 - 01/10/14 05:02 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Finished brewing the tea. Did 2 washes for a total of 5 hours. I capped 5g of ground Rue which I will take 30 mins before the tea. This sound right? The tea is one good shot.
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19400347 - 01/10/14 05:30 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Will the etiz be dangerous with the rue
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19400393 - 01/10/14 05:42 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yeah the etiz is a big iffy situation. I didn't cap my rue I drank it as a tea instead, let me know how that goes for you. As sleepy as I was feeling during my trip, I think with the etiz you may run a serious risk of sleeping through your trip (if not health risks, too).
How did you get your tea down to one shot? Mine was like 4 travel mugs worth lol; took forever to consume
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: Aopocetx]
#19400457 - 01/10/14 05:59 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yikes 5 grams of raw rue is really way too much and is likely going to be extremely nasty even on its own!
13 grams of Acacia?
Hope you know what you're doing bud!
Why start so high before you have even tested out a small dose? I would humbly advise you start at 3 grams and work your way up!
Trust me many of the dosages reported online are utterly ludicrous as everyone's materials can vary dramatically! It's rather like never having drunk before and immediately downing a bottle of vodka for your fist time!
In a way I have no right telling you this cause I made the very same mistakes with the Syrian rue concoction myself once and now looking back do not regret them one little bit!
At the time however... Mummy please help me was I think the overwhelming sentiment that night!
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Re: I am waiting for some Acacia confusa [Re: lot_justice]
#19400554 - 01/10/14 06:23 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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lot_justice said: How did you get your tea down to one shot? Mine was like 4 travel mugs worth lol; took forever to consume
It was just a matter of waiting for the water to evaporate as I was simmering it (I don't know if you can even call it simmering, there was a lone bubble once in a while and stuff was moving around). But yeah if you have a lot of liquid, just set it on a low heat for a while and it will evaporate down.
Mine is thick and orange. Yours too? Probably not very thick.
And wolf, you're right. Damn I keep changing what my dose is gonna be. Like 5 times now in this thread. But I have enough material to where I can keep going up slowly. The reason I was gonna do 13g is just because I'm used to tripping hard and I wanted to get full effects.
Man, me and my girl had a big fight tonight so I'm just gonna do it tomorrow.
If someone could comment on how rue works capped I would love to know. I just need to know if waiting 30 minutes is enough considering the gelcaps need to dissolve. And are you guys saying something like 3g is enough? I figured if I used a good amount I would get some harmala effects in my trip which is mildly psychedelic if I remember correctly.
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