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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: qman]
    #19346283 - 12/30/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better




It must be true, since the government said so.  :rofl2:

The CBO had estimated 10 years ago that the government would have budget surpluses in the 2008-2013 time frame, how did that forecast work out?




Bush spent the predicted forecast before it happened and then the recession happened. Double whop


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346292 - 12/30/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better




It must be true, since the government said so.  :rofl2:

The CBO had estimated 10 years ago that the government would have budget surpluses in the 2008-2013 time frame, how did that forecast work out?




Bush spent the predicted forecast before it happened and then the recession happened. Double whop






Doesn't reduce the hilarity in your blind faith in CBO estimates :smile:


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346314 - 12/30/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
http://acasignups.net/


My opinion: The president looked at the largest expense and risk to the United States of America after doing a lot of research and saw it as healthcare.





hahahaha... no

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He put together the best package he could given a divided country, existing frameworks, and not having unlimited god-like power.




exactly what is this package that he put together?



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It seems to be doing better than detractors want to claim, though.





including the enrollment for medicare/medicaid doesnt mean that obamacare
enrollment is what you're being told it is


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: memes]
    #19346317 - 12/30/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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memes said:
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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better




It must be true, since the government said so.  :rofl2:

The CBO had estimated 10 years ago that the government would have budget surpluses in the 2008-2013 time frame, how did that forecast work out?




Bush spent the predicted forecast before it happened and then the recession happened. Double whop






Doesn't reduce the hilarity in your blind faith in CBO estimates :smile:




Well, let's face it, pretty much everything the government says is either hilarious or inffuriating. Getting a common sense anser from the government is like asking a pig to fly.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: memes]
    #19346329 - 12/30/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nah, they shit on him because he's a lying piece of crap.



:rolleyes: What a cerebral gem of an argument. Please, continue to enlighten us with unsubstantiated name calling.




Unsubstantiated?  We can't prove that he's a piece of crap.  But he's obviously a liar.


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The president promised that it would bring new or improved coverage to millions left outside traditional schemes, would lower costs without rationing, preserve popular policies and improve quality without increasing the deficit.  Some of those good things may yet happen.  But all were never going to be possible at the same time.  In essence, Mr. Obama promised huge reforms could be enacted without trade-offs.  Now that voters have realized that was untrue, cock-a-hoop Republicans hope to ride their anger all the way to the mid-terms"



http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21591866-both-parties-are-promising-far-more-they-can-deliver-empty-stockings


When did the president promise all of that? I don't remember it. Even if he did promise such things, that doesn't mean the ACA taking us in the wrong direction. Let the ACA speak for itself and forget what Obama says. People aren't perfect and politicians are essentially forced to say certain things that may not be true at times if they want to get laws passed, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the law is a bad idea. It just means that people are too stupid and/or impatient to understand the complexity of the problem at hand and want someone to tell them that everything is going to be okay very soon, or else they are going to be pissed and throw you out of office.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted] * 4
    #19346401 - 12/30/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

dude.

please stfu.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346456 - 12/30/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better





saving a trillion from where exactly?


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #19346473 - 12/30/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
When did the president promise all of that? I don't remember it. Even if he did promise such things, that doesn't mean the ACA taking us in the wrong direction. Let the ACA speak for itself and forget what Obama says.





Ok, so tell us, what exactly does the affordable care act say for it's self?

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It just means that people are too stupid and/or impatient to understand the complexity of the problem at hand and want someone to tell them that everything is going to be okay very soon, or else they are going to be pissed and throw you out of office.





then please feel free to explain it to us


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #19346532 - 12/30/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.




Nah, they shit on him because he's a lying piece of crap.



:rolleyes: What a cerebral gem of an argument. Please, continue to enlighten us with unsubstantiated name calling.




If you think the man isn't a liar, perhaps reading or watching the news is in order.

There's a very easy way to tell when he's lying. Want a tip? His lips move.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19346593 - 12/30/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It seems to be doing better than detractors want to claim, though.





including the enrollment for medicare/medicaid doesnt mean that obamacare
enrollment is what you're being told it is




Just signing everyone in the U.S. up for Medicaid would have been a far better move than the ACA.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19346596 - 12/30/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better





saving a trillion from where exactly?




Ask Obama. He said it, not me.

I suppose its not savings but more expenses that will not occur.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346663 - 12/30/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
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saving a trillion from where exactly?



Ask Obama. He said it, not me.
I suppose its not savings but more expenses that will not occur.




I started a new job today.  I work 40 hours a week, and in the end, they give me a piece of paper that says i'm not in debt.

its not money in my pocket, but they're saying i won't have debt.  so i'm better off, right?


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: memes]
    #19346705 - 12/30/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck Nobama, and the affordable healthcare act. The government shouldn't be able to force you to buy any product, and then penalize you if you don't. We need LESS government, not MORE. Obama is too liberal IMO. He wants to spend, spend, spend, without anyway of paying for it. When you overly tax the rich, it just hurts the poor. The rich will donate less, offer less job opportunities, and less pay for the jobs they do offer. It's a model that doesn't work. My parents are small franchise owners (two different companies) and they can't afford to offer healthcare to their fulltime employees, so now they only can hire part time employees. It hurts the employees and employers alike.

Sincerely,

A frustrated libertarian.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346796 - 12/30/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better





saving a trillion from where exactly?




Ask Obama. He said it, not me.

I suppose its not savings but more expenses that will not occur.





you repeated it

and where are these fabled expenses that wont take place supposed to be coming from?


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: memes] * 1
    #19346811 - 12/30/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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memes said:
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Patlal said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
saving a trillion from where exactly?



Ask Obama. He said it, not me.
I suppose its not savings but more expenses that will not occur.




I started a new job today.  I work 40 hours a week, and in the end, they give me a piece of paper that says i'm not in debt.

its not money in my pocket, but they're saying i won't have debt.  so i'm better off, right?





you get a paper that says you're not in debt?


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19346821 - 12/30/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you actually *are* in debt, then you actually would be better off...

I don't know what "saving money" could mean other than not spending money that would've otherwise been spent.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19346847 - 12/30/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is the type of thread that makes me go "Why am I even reading this thread..."


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346850 - 12/30/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
http://acasignups.net/


My opinion: The president looked at the largest expense and risk to the United States of America after doing a lot of research and saw it as healthcare.




The President looked at the largest portion of the country he could take over after doing no research and figured he could ruin the country even more than he has with his other shit.  He actually increased the expense to the United States by expanding medicaid.  I looked at your link.  It proves that Obamacare is an abject failure.  Thanks for deleting my health insurance Obama.
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He put together the best package he could given a divided country, existing frameworks, and not having unlimited god-like power.




He didn't write it and never read it.  At the time the bill was passed he did have total power.  Control of the House and  Senate and CBO which lied about the costs in order to escape the Scott Brown filibuster
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Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.




Then?  He fucking lied
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It seems to be doing better than detractors want to claim, though.




It is a fucking disaster and he has delayed almost all of the shitstorm due for big employers and unions until after the next election.  Spit out the cock.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346853 - 12/30/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:








This is completely ignorant.  The only people who have done anything to Obamacare are Democrats


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346862 - 12/30/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If you want to be taken seriously, you should stop looking at political cartoons and posting inane insults and start analyzing numbers, data, and arguments. That is all I have to say. The information is there.



Yeah, the information is there and it says he is a lying cocksucker who has utterly fucked the country.  Spit out the cock.


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