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Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state
    #19345705 - 12/30/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://acasignups.net/


My opinion: The president looked at the largest expense and risk to the United States of America after doing a lot of research and saw it as healthcare.

He put together the best package he could given a divided country, existing frameworks, and not having unlimited god-like power.

Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.

It seems to be doing better than detractors want to claim, though.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19345726 - 12/30/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
http://acasignups.net/


My opinion: The president looked at the largest expense and risk to the United States of America after doing a lot of research and saw it as healthcare.

He put together the best package he could given a divided country, existing frameworks, and not having unlimited god-like power.

Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.

It seems to be doing better than detractors want to claim, though.




"He put together"

The lobbyists put together the best package they could for the companies and shareholders they represent.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: qman] * 2
    #19345778 - 12/30/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)







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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19345795 - 12/30/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 2
    #19345798 - 12/30/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted] * 4
    #19345808 - 12/30/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.




Nah, they shit on him because he's a lying piece of crap.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19345833 - 12/30/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

dingdingding!


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19345857 - 12/30/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.




Nah, they shit on him because he's a lying piece of crap.




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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19346086 - 12/30/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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morrowasted said:
Then everyone shit on him that it wasn't perfect.




Nah, they shit on him because he's a lying piece of crap.



:rolleyes: What a cerebral gem of an argument. Please, continue to enlighten us with unsubstantiated name calling.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346107 - 12/30/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you want to be taken seriously, you should stop looking at political cartoons and posting inane insults and start analyzing numbers, data, and arguments. That is all I have to say. The information is there.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346125 - 12/30/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hate Obama:nonono:


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346158 - 12/30/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is just a national registry and its all socialist bullshit.  If they really want to make healthcare affordable, then why don't they take a look at the medical equipment suppliers and put limits on the profits they produce.  I saw a picture of a little metal rack that held blood samples, maybe cost $5 tops to produce, it cost the hospital like $700.  That's why healthcare is so high. 
All the affordable healthcare act is gonna do is line the pockets of the insurance companies and drive decent doctors away from the U.S.  Who will want to spend 12 years becoming a doctor, just to get out of med school and get paid next to nothing.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Polk_Audio3]
    #19346167 - 12/30/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn people are still on baracks dick?


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346175 - 12/30/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's funny it's called the affordable care act.. We couldn't of afforded the care through the healthcare.gov site.. We'd of had to go without electricity or food or something just to pay the monthly payments for it.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19346214 - 12/30/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346219 - 12/30/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Easy for you to say you fuckin Canuck. (not serious)


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19346237 - 12/30/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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This is just a national registry and its all socialist bullshit.  If they really want to make healthcare affordable, then why don't they take a look at the medical equipment suppliers and put limits on the profits they produce.  I saw a picture of a little metal rack that held blood samples, maybe cost $5 tops to produce, it cost the hospital like $700.  That's why healthcare is so high. 
All the affordable healthcare act is gonna do is line the pockets of the insurance companies and drive decent doctors away from the U.S.  Who will want to spend 12 years becoming a doctor, just to get out of med school and get paid next to nothing.



What do you mean it cost the hospital $700? Can you show me where medical equipment prices are being artifically inflated? I don't think you understand what is happening. You appear to be saying that healthcare costs are expensive because medical bills are expensive. Medical bills are expensive for a multitude of reasons. One is that doctors are not subject to normal market forces. If you need something done medically and they want to charge you a lot, they can do it because you essentially don't have a choice. The insurance industry, however, does not pay the amount that they are billed. This is the other reason that the bill is so high, because the healthcare providers are adjusting for the fact that they know they will only receive a fraction of what they bill from insurance companies.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346258 - 12/30/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I knew I should have saved that pic on imgur for a conversation just like this one.  I have a really good friend that manages the finances at a healthcare clinic, and all she does is bitch about how they get away with charging an arm and a leg for misc. shit like this all the time.
There needs to be standards and practices put in place that punish this horseshit.


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: Patlal]
    #19346270 - 12/30/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
The US government will be saving a trillion dollar over the next 10 years because of Obamacare. Sure it had a bumpy start, but It'll get better




It must be true, since the government said so.  :rofl2:

The CBO had estimated 10 years ago that the government would have budget surpluses in the 2008-2013 time frame, how did that forecast work out?


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Re: Affordable Care Act enrollment statistics broken down by week/state [Re: morrowasted]
    #19346281 - 12/30/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
Nah, they shit on him because he's a lying piece of crap.



:rolleyes: What a cerebral gem of an argument. Please, continue to enlighten us with unsubstantiated name calling.




Unsubstantiated?  We can't prove that he's a piece of crap.  But he's obviously a liar.


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The president promised that it would bring new or improved coverage to millions left outside traditional schemes, would lower costs without rationing, preserve popular policies and improve quality without increasing the deficit.  Some of those good things may yet happen.  But all were never going to be possible at the same time.  In essence, Mr. Obama promised huge reforms could be enacted without trade-offs.  Now that voters have realized that was untrue, cock-a-hoop Republicans hope to ride their anger all the way to the mid-terms"



http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21591866-both-parties-are-promising-far-more-they-can-deliver-empty-stockings


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