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are these peruvianus? tersheckii?
#19345672 - 12/30/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bought these seedlings off amazon. They were advertised as a 4 pack but I got 5. I dont know much about cacti, I mainly grow bridgesii. The one in the back left looks like tersheckii to me.
Edited by cannabinated (12/30/13 10:09 AM)
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KBG1977
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: cannabinated]
#19345680 - 12/30/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No,not terscheckii in my opinion.
Edited by KBG1977 (12/30/13 10:11 AM)
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: KBG1977]
#19345756 - 12/30/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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KBG1977 said: No,not terscheckii in my opinion.
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cannabinated



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Its hard to see from the picture but the cactus in question has yellow spines. the others are of a red tone. they are all still the same?
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: cannabinated]
#19345800 - 12/30/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It could be natural variation within which ever species they turn out to be.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: cannabinated]
#19346286 - 12/30/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How old are these?
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: verbage]
#19347510 - 12/30/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bought them over the summer but they could probably be over a year.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: cannabinated]
#19347928 - 12/30/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tersheckii do not grow in a columnar form until they are at least several years old.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: Yrat]
#19348058 - 12/30/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Terscheckii seedlings look identical to other trichocereus species. They grow almost the same for a few years, then stall and grow cylindrical and then after several years, start to grow columnar.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: karode13]
#19348408 - 12/30/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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karode13 said: Terscheckii seedlings look identical to other trichocereus species. They grow almost the same for a few years, then stall and grow cylindrical and then after several years, start to grow columnar.
and they have huge wicked spines!
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: KBG1977]
#19349541 - 12/31/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grow them in good spot like 3years or more, then you should see yourself what species they are.
Fertilize and water at summer, keep dry and cool over winter.. Later on the seedling starts to take it's form and shape.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: karode13] 1
#19350256 - 12/31/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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karode13 said: Terscheckii seedlings look identical to other trichocereus species. They grow almost the same for a few years, then stall and grow cylindrical and then after several years, start to grow columnar.
completely disagree. for a few months they look the same, but even at an extremely young age there are huge differences between most trichs, which grow straight up, and terscheckii, which grows into a fat little ball for several years before growing vertically.
5 month old terscheckii: 
5 month old bridgesii, peruvianus, and bridg x pach hybrids: 
the same plants now after almost 5 years...
terscheckii: 
bridg, peru, hybrids: 
here is a shot with bridgesii and terscheckii for comparison. they are exactly the same age. the seeds were sown at the same time. in fact, the bridgesiis have already been chopped several times for propagation. 
here is a shot with a t. huasca next to the terscheckii, same exact age, seeds sown at the same time.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: Yrat]
#19350312 - 12/31/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yrat said: here is a shot with a t. huasca next to the terscheckii, same exact age, seeds sown at the same time. 
That's a very nice, upright T. huascha!
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: LSoares]
#19350407 - 12/31/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Op, are the areas where the spines protrude fuzzy?
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: Yrat]
#19356097 - 01/01/14 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yrat said:
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karode13 said: Terscheckii seedlings look identical to other trichocereus species. They grow almost the same for a few years, then stall and grow cylindrical and then after several years, start to grow columnar.
completely disagree. for a few months they look the same, but even at an extremely young age there are huge differences between most trichs, which grow straight up, and terscheckii, which grows into a fat little ball for several years before growing vertically.
5 month old terscheckii: 
5 month old bridgesii, peruvianus, and bridg x pach hybrids: 
the same plants now after almost 5 years...
terscheckii: 
bridg, peru, hybrids: 
here is a shot with bridgesii and terscheckii for comparison. they are exactly the same age. the seeds were sown at the same time. in fact, the bridgesiis have already been chopped several times for propagation. 
here is a shot with a t. huasca next to the terscheckii, same exact age, seeds sown at the same time. 
This doesn't correlate with my experience or the old guy I know that's been growing them for 30 years. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for yours.
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: karode13]
#19356359 - 01/01/14 09:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting. Yrat's experience is closer to mine. May differences in the genetic populations of the US vs. Australia?
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: naum]
#19362047 - 01/03/14 04:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm pretty sure that these are just separate phenos playing out. I'm sorry that I didn't really explain my reasoning in questioning the species of the cacti, I have no botanical knowledge to base my claims on. Anyway, a few months ago I found an envelope in my room labeled 'T. tersheckii' I honestly have no idea how it ended up in my room other than that it came with my recent cacti order. I assumed it did and that perhaps the fifth cactus was a terscheckii.
Here is a closer look at the cactus:
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Re: are these peruvianus? tersheckii? [Re: cannabinated]
#19362163 - 01/03/14 05:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's just different variety of trichocereus sp. Not terscheckii. IMO.
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I find they stay globular for many years too. The seedlings were a bit more rounded, more squat, than peruvianus.
A recently dropped tray 

The terscheckii here is older than the surrounding pach/peru
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KBG1977
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I gotta get another Terschekii,I grew a bunch from seed,and had them at least five years,all just to have to get rid of before I left Florida
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