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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20827198 - 11/12/14 02:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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xBELLSPROUTx said: So today marks the 3 week mark and i dont plan on looking at the jars til friday and i hope for them to be ready by next week some time. question, every time in the pasti would just dunk for 24 hours, roll and fruit in a sgfc. that being said, is there any benefit to "spawning" (crumbing 1-2 cakes and putting them in a big tupawear in the sgfc with my 4 other cakes? if so can any one give advise, where can i get coir? what do i have to use do i have to use coir and poo. like i said never done anything but cake fruiting?
you can spawn with brf you just have to break it up more. For this reason, grain is the standard. Ive never used coir, (always hpoo/straw/gypsum mix) but you can order it and buy it at most garden stores.as far as the tek of pasteurization there are several methods. i personally use quart jars because i have alot of them but most use a pillowcase. my process is something like.
-get sub to feild capacity -load jars and wrap lid tightly with several layers of alluminum foil and twine. -put meat thermometer into one jar -load jars into large pot with jar lid spacers on the bottom. weigh down jars. -add enough water to come most of the way up the jars -bring internal temp of jars to 170 and keep it there for an hour (but no higher) -take jars out and allow them to fully cool to where the jars are cool to the touch. -its done --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as spawning cakes in a sgfc. I'd recommend a lasagna tray with a lid. they work great. I did a few before i moved to monos. somethin' like this...
they work well. I just cut a hole in the top of mine and stuffed it with polyfil...
with spawning you just want a good ratio...anything less than 1/4 spawn/sub is not advised on your first run... -hope any of this helped, good luck
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20827235 - 11/12/14 02:42 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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is this a better way to grow with the cakes? after the stuff had cooled I just mix it with the crumbled cakes? I have looked on and all I have found is use 1:1 ration one part Vern one part coir and mix it with the crumble cakes. seem like I should just fruit normal
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20827267 - 11/12/14 02:51 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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to each is own really. personally with cakes id just fruit em... I always figured if you wanna do spawning, might as well do a monotub. its really up to you but yeah mixing with coir (or any sub really) should work. just mix, cover, wait. the search button will help you as well.
EDIT- but like i said...i've never worked with coir.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20827290 - 11/12/14 02:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks man, I'll keep you updated with what I do in the days to come.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20827330 - 11/12/14 03:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20835132 - 11/14/14 05:56 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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if I covered one of my jars in black tape, took the top off and the dry verm out and place it in the terrarium with my cakes will it fruit from the top? good idea or nah?
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20844385 - 11/16/14 07:41 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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this happen to me last time but during my consolidation time, I'm at about 96-97 % colonization and my jar is pinning hold I still wait a week after full or just fruit. and can I use a flash light to fruit?
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20853477 - 11/17/14 10:19 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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here's that hat from a day and a half ago tomorrow is day two of full colonization. should I birth and dunk it wait some more first picture is the jar on day 2 the 2 picture is a jar that just hit full with a pin. I grew these before the mazetepec and have had the same result (my sig).wait of dunk
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20856586 - 11/18/14 03:48 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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xBELLSPROUTx said: if I covered one of my jars in black tape, took the top off and the dry verm out and place it in the terrarium with my cakes will it fruit from the top? good idea or nah?
it will but the more surface area the better...just take it out.
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xBELLSPROUTx said: this happen to me last time but during my consolidation time, I'm at about 96-97 % colonization and my jar is pinning hold I still wait a week after full or just fruit. and can I use a flash light to fruit? 
always wait. there is nothing more frustrating than getting a cake to 98% and the 2% screwing you in the long run. As for the light, ambient light is more than ok. If you can see it, it has enough light.
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xBELLSPROUTx said: here's that hat from a day and a half ago tomorrow is day two of full colonization. should I birth and dunk it wait some more first picture is the jar on day 2 the 2 picture is a jar that just hit full with a pin. I grew these before the mazetepec and have had the same result (my sig).wait of dunk
I always give 3-4 days consolodation. I'd give it another day, but that one looks ready.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20858453 - 11/18/14 10:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I went ahead and birth my 100% one that was ok day 2 of full colonization. it was pinning like crazy I also got this set up standard sgfc with the new light I got with a 40w bulb max the light can handle. I got the cake dunking now and birthing it in the am for a full 24 hour dunk, I plan on fruiting the rest this week.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20858694 - 11/19/14 01:21 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see this going well
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20859046 - 11/19/14 05:45 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Should I roll after the dunk since there are pins?
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20859886 - 11/19/14 11:32 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm going to try and not be an asshole flamer, I have read the entire thread bellsprout, do you feel more confident now? How many threads do you think you read prior to acquiring your grow hardware? Did you read threads then search topics/words/idealisms you didn't understand? I will commend you for persevering against all odds; using tall skinny jars, handling A LOT just to take pictures and ask silly paranoid questions, not drilling enough holes in you SGFC, drilling holes after filled with product, cracking the plastic, not having gotten a clear lid SGFC, putting the light in the chamber (though it is Low voltage seemingly, so probably benign) - like I said; not trying to be an asshole, I commend your for persevering and partially succeeding with your first grow, I'm quick behind you - though I'm out the door in an hour to track down ½ pint fatties!
May I humbly suggest more searching and less superfluous questioning, though this community is great, I love y'all so patient and supportive.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: drege]
#20860156 - 11/19/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have searched found information I have used it and just ask to see what others have to say, I don't like going off information that is 3+ years old because I have no clue what has and hasn't changed.as for the jars I just don't feel like ordering jars online. no store has them and I don't think I'll use pf Tek again (moving to bulk).
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20860345 - 11/19/14 01:29 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have also learned threw everything I have done wrong along the way. my first grow was a successes for my friends and I, despite everything that went wrong from lighting to hole size to everything else. I learned how to make the cakes then learned how to do everything else as needed. searching is a good thing but some times you find conflicting Info, or just a second opinion. and if everything is done right regardless of the jar it will fruit. I have seen pints used as brf and even cups so tall halfs are fine.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20861509 - 11/19/14 05:40 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just looked at my n.hood ACE and though they didn't have on the shelves the ½ pint fatties, they took my money and they will have 24 (2 cases) of them available for me friday.
Might I mention that when searching there is a few ways to screen the results; the I see subject, forum, poster, posted on (date posted), words (word count) and Relevance (represented in %) For the newest posts obviously click 'Posted on' Thats how I roll. yea my first few days here I was stuck seeing old ass fuck posts, then I noticed the search screening tabs.
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#20861647 - 11/19/14 06:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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xBELLSPROUTx said: I have searched found information I have used it and just ask to see what others have to say, I don't like going off information that is 3+ years old because I have no clue what has and hasn't changed.as for the jars I just don't feel like ordering jars online. no store has them and I don't think I'll use pf Tek again (moving to bulk).
There is nothing wrong with asking questions...I cant stand it when instead of posting something useful someone just goes on about "use the fucking search bar!" If we all just "used the search bar" nothing new would ever be discovered, new experiences wouldn't be shared and we would all still be using the same outdated incorrect bullshit. It just seems like a counter-productive action for new posters to go around posting unhelpful dickish notions of "figure it out yourself". Dunk and roll your cakes as normal...the pins will be fine.
good luck man
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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: sooperdooper]
#20861675 - 11/19/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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nah yea like I sad I searched and found out info haha I'm not like stupid and lazy. I rolled and all that I assumed it was the same just saw a post from a few years back saying it will kill pins to roll after dunk. wanted to verify.
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