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One week, now growth.
    #19345627 - 12/30/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im new to growing these amazing shrooms and just want some tips, Im using the Mazatepec and wold also like some tips with these if anyone has any (colonization time and stuff like that). HERE IS MY SET UP!! Ok, so this is my first attempt at the cultivation of these legendary mushrooms and I am more then excited to see what happens. I used the Pf method (2 cups verm, 1 cup water, i cup BRF) and have 5 1/2 pint jars. i filled the jars leaving about half an inch from the top, then took a paper towel and cleaned the outside and inside of the top of the jar. After doing this I filled the last about half inch of the jar with some dry verm. Next I cover the two holes on top of the mason jar and put foil on top of the jars as well. After doing this i places the jars on a plat in a tall pot and put water around the plate and let be on a light boil for 90 min (i put a nice lid on the pot). I let the jars sit in the pot with the lid taped down to it over night, the next day i got my syringe in the mail from T.H.E. ( I went with the Mazatepec syringe). I cleaned out a small bathroom in my house, i sprayed Lysol in the air and on all the surfaces(It was the smallest one, only one person can stand in it at a time). i brought all my stuff in that i would be using and needing and did one more round of Lysol and let it sit for a few minutes then went in with a new shirt with a hood and painting mask. I took the jars out of the pot, took the syringe out and shook it then heated the needle tip before it went into a different jar. (each hole got maybe a little more then half a ml and each injecting happened between the glass and substrate) Before moving on to a new jar i would take the tape off and put the foil on, after all 5 jars were done i put then all in rubber made and put 4 layers of blankets over a heating pad. the Rubber made is in a black blanket itself and sits on everything i just said. Each jar is in a beer cozy and the outside jar temp is 84 degrees (according to digital thermometer) and the over all box temp is 86 (according to Mercury thermometer). I inoculated them on the 27th of December and in 3 days (30th December) i can see no growth hopefully everything works. give me tips if you have any! ill keep everyone posted with pictures as they progress.:mushroom2:


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19345816 - 12/30/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's to hot inside jar temps are much hotter than outside take the cozy off an sit on shelf at room temp everything else sounds fine.


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: NOTFALL3N]
    #19345934 - 12/30/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Like he said^^^ 86 is too hot. Contams are what thrives at 86. Around 80 max. :mushroom2:


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: vikingsc]
    #19346139 - 12/30/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thank you, i have taken the cozy's off and turned off the heating pad. i know that i can take up to like 14 days to see any growth of anything but when is the usual time. (as close to my conditions as possible)


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19346157 - 12/30/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I usually see good growth around 5 - 7 days I and do u still have the tin foil on top


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: NOTFALL3N]
    #19346213 - 12/30/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i do still have the foil on, also when i was taking off the cozys i did happen to find a little tiny point of what looks to be colonization. i looked harder and it loos like there is a little black in it i am assuming this is contamination (i will post a picture) i don't want to get a head of my self though because it also might be some verm


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19346230 - 12/30/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Need pics but yea take the foil off an sit on shelf in room temp doesn't have to be dark either.


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    #19346264 - 12/30/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

what does taking it out of the incubator do different and should they stay there the whole colonization time? and here are some pictures, like i said not much at all this is the first jar that has shown anything.


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    #19346291 - 12/30/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19346299 - 12/30/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They look fine and pic 2 looks like a chunk of brf was it mixed well?


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: NOTFALL3N]
    #19346373 - 12/30/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They were mixed very well, the Verm with water for like 5 ish min then I mixed the brf with it . I would say it was a good mix.


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19346413 - 12/30/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The second picture shows what I think could be a contamination, it's only been 3 days so like I said it could also be verm.


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: NOTFALL3N]
    #19346442 - 12/30/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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take the foil off



The jars in question look like small mouth half pints.  They have been known to stall before bottom colonization.  The best advice that can be given with these jars is to not handle them.  IF the brf/verm becomes compacted, its possible that the mycelium will not spread to the bottom portions...possibly stalling prior to full colonization. 

And if you have a dry verm layer, the foil is just about totally useless.  It could restrict gas exchange, which could also cause stalling.  The PF tek uses no tinfoil over the lids.


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19346446 - 12/30/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it will let moisture dampen your dry layer...remove it


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: cronicr]
    #19346567 - 12/30/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok so i took the foil off, reduced the temp and took the cozys off hahaha. like i said im new to the game haha.


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    #19346581 - 12/30/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



this is the area I was/ am in question of, i just got a better picture of it.


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19346583 - 12/30/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

we have all been there, worried about temps, contams and all the little things but really it's just as easy as puttint it on a shelf and waiting, that looks like the beggining of nice growth


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
    #19346584 - 12/30/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks fine;)


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Re: First Attempt Log please Tip :D [Re: NOTFALL3N]
    #19346654 - 12/30/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Is there any need to worry/ wonder about the black spot in the middle of the growth or is that normal? Thanks for all the help from everyone by the way!! :smile:


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    #19346660 - 12/30/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Probably just incolonized Verm.


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