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highowl
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How do psychedelic flashbacks work?
#19345024 - 12/30/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A friend of mine used to do a lot of 2C-I and as a result now has very strong flashbacks pretty regularly. She hasn't done any 2C-I for nearly a new now but she continues to, as she describes it, 'randomly start tripping balls' often. What causes this, and how is it possible if the drug isn't in the system anymore? Thanks!
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Aopocetx
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: highowl]
#19345244 - 12/30/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A person has a flashback when he experiences something that reminds him of a certain traumatic or meaningful experience. That is, the experience meant so much that a trigger can bring back some parts of it. For example, a person could look at his hand and that brings back some of the thoughts and feelings associated with a time when he looked at his hand while tripping. It has something to do with memory. The event is so strong that the mind actually recreates certain feelings. It has nothing to do with the drug being "released from the spinal cord" for example. Also, it's different from HPPD. Maybe your friend has HPPD? That's where the user continues to see visual anomalies because of a drug. That generally goes away with time.
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Into The Woods
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: highowl]
#19345261 - 12/30/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It could be anything from visual, to a momentary shift back to the psychedelic mindset triggered by something associated with the memory of something experienced during a trip
and it varies greatly in extremity/intensity in different people
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Bubbles85

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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19345264 - 12/30/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This has only happened to me once. I was driving to a mates in the day time. The sky was cloudy, but the clouds were bright white. When i got onto the motorway the sky suddenly changed to a deep purple colour. It lasted about 5 seconds then vanished.
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: Bubbles85]
#19345698 - 12/30/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For my money, I've never been concerned about flashbacks, and even if I was having them...I mean yeah I wouldn't even necessarily know? I guess? Probably a good reason not to do 2C-I though. I will say that when I was doing psychedelics more often, I felt weird once in a while. This could be anything, however, but it was sort of trippy. But not in a bad way at all. That' the extent of my experience with flashbacks I guess.
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: un-known-ome]
#19345773 - 12/30/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Honestly, all the flashbacks I've had have never bothered me
and they pass soon enough, anyway
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The only times I've experienced something that could be called a flashback were all vision based.
The first time I was at college, sitting by a computer. I suddenly felt a bit weird and the keyboard started to move backwards across the desk - at first I thought someone was pulling the keyboard cable, but the visual kept resetting. This seemed to last for about 10 seconds.
After this 'flashback' I could induce distortions, so objects looked like they were moving, or stretching/shrinking.
The next flashback was around 3 days later. I was watching a film at night and I felt weird again. All colours seem to intensify to the point that it made me feel sick. I went to bed to finish watching the film and again felt weird. As I moved my eyes, the TV screen trailed away across the room. I turned the TV off and went to sleep, hoping when I awoke the trailing would be gone.
This was when I developed what I later found out to be HPPD. From then on things would bend and distort, my vision fizzled and everything imprinted on my eyes, everything trailed too.
I'd taken LSD on a Friday night at a nightclub, the first flashback happened the Tuesday afterwards. The experience at the club was bad (got threated by a local dealer whilst tripping), and after the trip I felt a bit disassociated.
After this trip I'd also try and induce LSD visuals during meditation sessions.
I find the progression towards HPPD interesting, as it suggests the LSD wasn't really to blame, but rather it acted as an agent to the HPPD symptoms. Perhaps the LSD uncovered a lot of psychological baggage and this became apparent over many days, manifesting itself as HPPD symptoms?
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: misterjingo]
#19346010 - 12/30/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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These guys seemed to explain it very well up here.
I personally have never had a "flashback", but I am lead to believe that 25i-NBOMe has made my usual pre-migraine tunnel vision extremely colorful and geometric. It's not anything that worries me, but it is interesting.
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: highowl]
#19346112 - 12/30/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i can't say i've had a flashback that felt like a trip, but I have had moments where I've recalled with a slight intensity memories and feelings I had associated while tripping.
I've had moments of deja-vu after smoking DMT for a few days too. i think that one is more common.
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: Jesus Christ]
#19346154 - 12/30/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only time I get LSD "flashbacks" is when I get insanely high off weed (which is rare because of my tolerance). Throws me right back into the trip for an hour or so. It's pretty uncomfortable but I don't really mind.
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#19346177 - 12/30/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't even smoke pot any more without feeling like I'm on an uncomfortably low dose of L or mushrooms.
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Jesus Christ
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yeah i think weed makes me trip to a certain degree now. i've gotten "visuals" off it too.
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Malcolm_Xtasy
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Into The Woods said: I can't even smoke pot any more without feeling like I'm on an uncomfortably low dose of L or mushrooms.
Really? That sucks. When you trip do you tend to do high doses?
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Re: How do psychedelic flashbacks work? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19346307 - 12/30/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aopocetx said: A person has a flashback when he experiences something that reminds him of a certain traumatic or meaningful experience. That is, the experience meant so much that a trigger can bring back some parts of it. For example, a person could look at his hand and that brings back some of the thoughts and feelings associated with a time when he looked at his hand while tripping. It has something to do with memory. The event is so strong that the mind actually recreates certain feelings. It has nothing to do with the drug being "released from the spinal cord" for example. Also, it's different from HPPD. Maybe your friend has HPPD? That's where the user continues to see visual anomalies because of a drug. That generally goes away with time.
Yeah, this case sounds much closer to HPPD than a flashback to me as well. I feel like flashbacks are usually associated with some form of deja vu while HPPD has to do with visual distortions that occur while not sober.
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