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YOmamaPr0
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: cronicr]
#19339446 - 12/28/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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On a scale of 1-10, how good?
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Valyr
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: cronicr]
#19339477 - 12/28/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eh. Not tryin to be mean or anything but still looks a bit wet to me. I could be wrong but I dont think u should usually get that many grains sticking to the glass with proper moisture content. They dont look overcooked to me though.
7 out of 10 lol
Im just a newb though so take it with a grain of salt
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: Valyr]
#19339498 - 12/28/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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True true. They were just PCed 2 hours ago so they're still warm and it looks wetter than it will in a day or so I'm guessing. (I'm thinking the grains will re-absorb most of the extra moisture.) Thanks!
Edited by YOmamaPr0 (12/28/13 11:16 PM)
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Valyr
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: Valyr]
#19339513 - 12/28/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They also look a bit full to me. Just see how hard it is for you to break them up and evenly distribute the colonized grains again once you shake them. If its a bit of a pain than give yourself more room . When using ms inoculation the spore solution tends to collect at the bottom so that is where most of your mycellium is going to be for your first shake and getting colonized grains from the bottom of the jar to the top without room to shake can be a pisser.
I think most people fill master jars about 75%.
To answer your question on how much spore to use, most people told me betweent 1 and 2 cc per jar is good. I use two but really you could do it with any amount theoretically. Just take a bit longer since you have a smaller amount of inoculate.
Ahhh ok yeah. My grains always look wetter right after pc aswell. Your probably spot on then.
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: Valyr]
#19339538 - 12/28/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Valyr said: They also look a bit full to me. Just see how hard it is for you to break them up and evenly distribute the colonized grains again once you shake them. If its a bit of a pain than give yourself more room . When using ms inoculation the spore solution tends to collect at the bottom so that is where most of your mycellium is going to be for your first shake and getting colonized grains from the bottom of the jar to the top without room to shake can be a pisser.
I think most people fill master jars about 75%.
To answer your question on how much spore to use, most people told me betweent 1 and 2 cc per jar is good. I use two but really you could do it with any amount theoretically. Just take a bit longer since you have a smaller amount of inoculate.
Ahhh ok yeah. My grains always look wetter right after pc aswell. Your probably spot on then.
You should only shake once at 20%-30% colonization. No matter inoculation method or species.
With spore syringes more is not better. The more solution the more contams get introduced. That's why isolation on agar is beneficial.
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Valyr
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: magickspore]
#19339559 - 12/28/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Didnt say better, said faster/slower . Hopefully he made/baught syringes that were properly produced in a sterile environment with distilled water so there should be no contams but ya never know when you dont do it yourself.
Also dont forget about the performance benefits wich is the true reason behind doing agar. You can isolate a fast colonizing/large fruiting section. With ms you never know what your going to get for genetics. I just went through a six pack of syringes from a sponsor shop and I swear five of them were friggin junk. I mean they all worked just crap genetics, taking two friggin months to colonize a jar, wich isnt the shops fault. Just bad luck. Thats why agar is my next step
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Valyr
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: Valyr]
#19339580 - 12/28/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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also like to point out that you should only HAVE TO shake a jar once at 20-30% colonization. Not that you shouldnt do it again if it becomes necessary. Like if it stalls out or something. Just a clarification so no one gets confused
Edited by Valyr (12/28/13 11:45 PM)
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
#19340420 - 12/29/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ChaostoOrder said: Exactly the simmer is only to add water mainly, watch your grains...10 min tops...and rye is soooooo much easier...but good job and I hope it turns out...updates!!!
The only reason I have ever simmered grain was to get them hot enough to evaporate most of the external water. About 6 months ago, I gave up the simmer. I have had no issues at all with colonization of grain without a simmer.
This is true....we boil/simmer to get them hot enough to steam dry.
The soak is what mainly hydrates them.
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19340615 - 12/29/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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YOmamaPr0 said: Honest opinions please! IMO I think they're better than the last. Not perfect but definitely decent. No mush. Roll around like bbs. Good moisture content. PCed 12/29/13
I give my grain a day or 2 to allow for the moisture to stabilize, but I think your grain jars are too full. It can make shaking hard when they are that filled.
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
#19342187 - 12/29/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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From the pictures it definitely looks as if they're too full but I'm pretty sure they'll be ok. I'm going to give them a day or two. Then inoculate. I'll update with new pics soon to see if the moisture content has stabilized. Thanks again!
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19342191 - 12/29/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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there always gonna be a little moist on the outside right after you pc, but it should go away within a day or 2
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YOmamaPr0
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: cronicr]
#19342377 - 12/29/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea I assumed so. Just makes sense lol. Very first batch of jars are showing some great signs of growth. A fourth of the top region is covered in one jar.(If you can visualize that.)
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19343358 - 12/29/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok. So I gave the new PCed jars some time to cool down and get they're shit straight. I gave them a firm talkin to and an intense shakin. They seemed to start acting right.
But in all seriousness.I'd have to say the jars look exceptional! As always all opinions are appreciated. 
    And for all of that "too full" talk. Pfft. That's a thing of the past! Lol  I'm planning on impregnating these 10 jars with one syringe of PE-6! And another batch of 10 very soon with some B+. Will keep it posted on the daily yo!
Edited by YOmamaPr0 (12/29/13 08:33 PM)
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19343461 - 12/29/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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...nailed it
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Valyr
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: cronicr]
#19344125 - 12/29/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shit. I was gonna ask if you took some out lol. They look good man. Congrats.
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: Valyr]
#19344144 - 12/29/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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AWESOME!
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YOmamaPr0
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
#19346407 - 12/30/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok so here are some pics of my closet setup. It's pretty decent. Whaddya think? 
  
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19346603 - 12/30/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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that little space heater mite dry out your grains. jars colonize quit well just sitting on a shelf at room temp. remember its abuot 5 degrese hotter in the jars than outside. so don't over heat them.
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YOmamaPr0
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: MudaFuka]
#19348109 - 12/30/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, interesting point. But the heater has kept it consistently at 75F for an entire week now. Is an ambient temp of 75 too warm? As for drying out the grain jars, the humidity is relatively high inside the "incubator" box.
 So I'd have to disagree but I really appreciate the feedback! Any and all critiques are encouraged!
Edited by YOmamaPr0 (12/30/13 07:38 PM)
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Re: Questions about growth of my first grain jars with pics [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19348257 - 12/30/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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