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The 5 leagues of drug usage
#19344024 - 12/29/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So recently I've discovered that every single person can be categorized into 5 separate leagues of drug use. If two individuals interact with each other and each is aware of what league the other individual is in, their perceptions of each other will radically change. Even though they may share similar personalities, there will be a persistent bias.
Generally people start from league 1 and move their way up to league 5.
League 1: The straight-edge person. The kind of person who doesn't do any substances whatsoever. Even alcohol is a no-no for them. It's rare to see people like these at parties but sometimes they show up because they may be a childhood friend of the host. They are generally against all drug use.
League 2: The drinker/smoker. They enjoy and may even recommend partaking in the ingestion of legal substances like cigarettes and alcohol. Mary Jane is a big no-no for them and they generally feel uncomfortable around people who smoke weed or do harder drugs.
League 3: The pot-smoker. Generally if someone smokes pot, they'll be okay with drinking alcohol. The stigma behind marijuana is nowhere as great as mushrooms or ecstacy so marijuana has a league of its own. It's also slightly illegal (generally schedule I) whereas the consequences for harder drugs are far greater. The pot smoker just sticks to pot or his booze and is against doing anything else like mushrooms, acid, or ecstasy.
League 4: The "DRUG" users. These people are willing to experiment with virtually any drug as long as it doesn't have crazy physical withdrawal symptoms. They're fine with mushrooms, ecstasy, DMT, and all that good stuff but condemn things like meth, heroin, and coke.
League 5: The hardcore drug user. These individuals are willing to do virtually any substance. Heroin, coke, and meth use can even become a life style.
I'd say most of Shroomery is league 4.
From my experience: -About 88% of females I've met are either league 1 or 2. About 10% would be league 3. Maybe 1.99% are league 4. And lastly 0.01% are League 5. -Guys tend to do more drugs than girls by a long shot. -I'm league 5 LOL
WHAT LEAGUE(S) HAVE YOU BEEN IN? WHAT LEAGUE ARE YOU IN NOW? WHAT LEAGUE IS THE MOST HEALTHY (MENTALLY) TO BE IN?
My rule is that if two individuals are 2 leagues apart (ex league 1 vs league 3, league 2 vs league 4, etc), it will be very difficult for them to form a friendship because the bias will get in the way.
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Edited by Alexestalex (12/29/13 11:11 PM)
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex] 3
#19344031 - 12/29/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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20000 Leagues Under the Sea Brah. 
(ps: thats over 9000)
But ur right. Some girls are even into doing coke and pills now and then on top of weed/alc/cigs. But then i try to get em to do ketamine and acid and i end up with 'drug addict' written on my car
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344035 - 12/29/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm kind of in the middle between some of your categories. I don't use drugs very often but every now and then if there's some blow, ganja, or some legit acid I'm down to give it a go
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: The_Ghost] 1
#19344040 - 12/29/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i dont really fit in any of these
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Bambi]
#19344045 - 12/29/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bambi said: i dont really fit in any of these 
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: plektheplek]
#19344059 - 12/29/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm league 4, but I don't necessarily condemn the "harder" drugs. I don't enjoy stimulants, and I don't like how they make a lot of people act, but if that's your thing, I'm cool with it. I do like opiates. I've never even seen heroin, and unless I could smoke it I wouldn't do it. I won't IV or snort anything, but if I can eat or smoke it, I'm likely down.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Bambi]
#19344064 - 12/29/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bambi said: i dont really fit in any of these 
What drugs do you do?
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344076 - 12/29/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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what about the pill poppers? They think pharmies are ok and alcohol, but everything else is bad?
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344097 - 12/29/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every single person does not fit into these 5 groups, sorry.
I know many people who's usage/views vary drastically from what you have listed.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Galvie_Flu]
#19344099 - 12/29/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Galvie_Flu said: what about the pill poppers? They think pharmies are ok and alcohol, but everything else is bad?
League 2. I should have specified. League 2 folks are all about legality. They don't care about the chemical property of the substance, the side effects, or the effects it really has. As long as society allows the consumption of it, taxes it, and makes it legal, they're cool with it.
This is why they're against pot despite it being safer and healthier than alcohol in every possible way.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344100 - 12/29/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't bother putting this much thought into it. Different strokes, plain and simple.
Education is more important when it comes to changing "leagues" though. I've had several straight edge "league 1" girls go down the rabbit hole with me after getting the real facts and not the bullshit that is taught in schools. If you are prone to addiction, it may be wise to stay away from the hard stuff though.
Definitely more than .01% doing coke also. It was the first illegal drug I did... at age 11. There are too many shades of grey between these levels. There are plenty of people who would never go looking for blow, but if you put a line in front of them they would do it in a heartbeat.
I'm not going to categorize myself here, but I will highly recommend sex while on my friend mr. mescalito... talk about an afterglow.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344104 - 12/29/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alexestalex said:
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Bambi said: i dont really fit in any of these 
What drugs do you do?
I don't do any drugs for the most part. Like I said if there is a party and I like the atmosphere I'm down to do some coke, ganja, or acid
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: plektheplek]
#19344114 - 12/29/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There needs to be a league 6 that is the same as league 5 but with needles. You know... the guy that will shoot anything that he can get in a syringe.
Edited by luvdemboomers (12/29/13 11:07 PM)
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: plektheplek]
#19344119 - 12/29/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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shit im league 5 
im pretty sure league 5 can be separated into like 3 more different leagues though
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Yeah I am 5 but there is definately a 6. I know people who just go at that shit hard, too hard. Usually I find they are coping for tramautic experiences.
I think your #s are way off though, and I get along fine with straight edge folk, but most people are suprised to find out I use drugs and I don't tell people I don't know and trust.
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luvdemboomers said: There needs to be a league 6 that is the same as league 5 but with needles. You know... the guy that will shoot anything that he can get in a syringe.
What about a league 7 for people that only do RCs? Maybe league 8 for the people creating new RCs?  I just don't see what the point of categories is...
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And right now I'm league 4 though I haven't touched anything in a while. I don't condemn any drugs though. I was a league 5 from before I even knew where to get pot. I'd do anything and everything from when I discovered erowid until I went to rehab.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: TheMaster]
#19344149 - 12/29/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemboomers said: There needs to be a league 6 that is the same as league 5 but with needles. You know... the guy that will shoot anything that he can get in a syringe.
What about a league 7 for people that only do RCs? Maybe league 8 for the people creating new RCs?  I just don't see what the point of categories is...
Sarcasm?
If not, you can't group rc's as a category... RC's range from psilocybin and lsd analogues to fentanyl analogues...
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luvdemboomers said: There needs to be a league 6 that is the same as league 5 but with needles. You know... the guy that will shoot anything that he can get in a syringe.
What about a league 7 for people that only do RCs? Maybe league 8 for the people creating new RCs?  I just don't see what the point of categories is...
Sarcasm?
If not, you can't group rc's as a category... RC's range from psilocybin and lsd analogues to fentanyl analogues...
Definitely sarcasm, hence the There is a type of person that only does "legal" RCs just because they can pass a simple piss test.
I wouldn't call psilocybin an RC though. It is a product of nature with centuries of use.
Also, I would think that while LSD most definitely WAS an RC, it has such a "long" history of use that it just another drug (albeit awesome) that happens to be man made...Agreed that analogues like Al-Lad and LSZ are more RC even though they have existed for a while.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: TheMaster]
#19344208 - 12/29/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheMaster said:
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luvdemboomers said: There needs to be a league 6 that is the same as league 5 but with needles. You know... the guy that will shoot anything that he can get in a syringe.
What about a league 7 for people that only do RCs? Maybe league 8 for the people creating new RCs?  I just don't see what the point of categories is...
Sarcasm?
If not, you can't group rc's as a category... RC's range from psilocybin and lsd analogues to fentanyl analogues...
Definitely sarcasm, hence the There is a type of person that only does "legal" RCs just because they can pass a simple piss test.
I wouldn't call psilocybin an RC though. It is a product of nature with centuries of use.
Also, I would think that while LSD most definitely WAS an RC, it has such a "long" history of use that it just another drug (albeit awesome) that happens to be man made...Analogues like Al-Lad and LSZ are more RC even though they have existed for a while.
What I mean was psilocybin analogues (like 4-ho-met and 4-aco-dmt) and lsd analogues like the ones you mentioned.
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Ahh, gotcha! That "AND" really was significant
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: TheMaster]
#19344223 - 12/29/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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RCs should be league 4.5
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What about people who do coke but look down on meth?
I am kind of league 4 but addictiveness is not as important as safety profile to me. I don't do new drugs either maybe we need a class for people who just like the classics. I don't condemn any hard drugs they just aren't for me. You don't have to be automatically ignorant of all the other drugs out there you yourself don't do. I don't do coke but i have no problem with other people snorting it off my coffee table.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: my3rdeye]
#19344262 - 12/29/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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that would be league 4.27554
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There's a problem with your classification because while certainly people tend to stratify based on the amount of "drug risk" they're going to take based on the legal status and safety of the drug, they also tend to stratify based on how much of a propensity they have to addiciton/drug dependence and how that effects their usage patterns. I would say that tiers off into three: the addictive personality, who cannot control their impulses to consume drugs in anyway and gets hooked on almost anything and for whom any drug they use is a daily thing, the moderately addictive, who can occasionally lapse into a habit but spots it before disaster and generally cleans up on their own without intervention, for whom frequent but not daily drug use is a lifestyle choice, and the non-addictive, who simply don't like drugs enough to ever get a habit and who if they do indulge, do it extremely rarely and generally in a social environment.
Some people are just natural born teetotalers, even if they are your league 5 and have the open mind to try heroin, cocaine, meth etc. they're not going to make any of those a lifestyle, they just try them a few times to see what's up. I have a close friend who's like that, she's done pretty much everything once, but only does a few of the drugs that she likes on very rare occasions, but she's still a five by your scale even if she almost never gets high because she's done all those drugs on your list. Others have that addictive personality where even if they're a level 2, they still go so far overboard they end up killing themselves with their alcohol and tobacco habits.
I personally am about a league 5 with moderate addictive propensities, perhaps more of a 4 now that I'm older and don't have the time, money or endurance to fuck around with speed. I've definitely been in those places in life where I had a coke problem, a drinking problem etc. but all in all I tend to keep my drug use under control. Maybe you need a special league for the old guys who have done everything there is to do but are too fucking old to keep doing it so they quit everything but the psychedelics.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344283 - 12/29/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alexestalex said: League 4: The "DRUG" users. These people are willing to experiment with virtually any drug as long as it doesn't have crazy physical withdrawal symptoms. They're fine with mushrooms, ecstasy, DMT, and all that good stuff but condemn things like meth, heroin, and coke.
I tried shrooms and peyote and used shrooms a fare while before before i even tried cannabis. I do not and will not smoke tobacco. I really don't agree with your post. It is to limited to be accurate.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Magenta]
#19344302 - 12/30/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess 5 I'm willing to do just about any drug, including the ones people tend to be so uptight about. But I don't do them regularly, or any drugs regularly for that matter.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344431 - 12/30/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alexestalex said: -About 88% of females I've met are either league 1 or 2. About 10% would be league 3. Maybe 1.99% are league 4. And lastly 0.01% are League 5.
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: The_Ghost]
#19344439 - 12/30/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The_Ghost said: 20000 Leagues Under the Sea Brah. 
(ps: thats over 9000)
But ur right. Some girls are even into doing coke and pills now and then on top of weed/alc/cigs. But then i try to get em to do ketamine and acid and i end up with 'drug addict' written on my car

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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: The Phleg]
#19344456 - 12/30/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The_Ghost said: 20000 Leagues Under the Sea Brah. 
(ps: thats over 9000)
But ur right. Some girls are even into doing coke and pills now and then on top of weed/alc/cigs. But then i try to get em to do ketamine and acid and i end up with 'drug addict' written on my car


I really haven't found that women are less open to doing drugs IME . I do frequent a lot of raves n shit though so I guess the crowd of people I meet tends to be a lot different than the average.
Under your scale I'd guess I'd be a 5.. I'd probably try everything once if the situation arose (aside from a certain bunch of RCs). I really don't have an addictive personality though and don't even seek them out.. Sometimes people just offer them to me
Sometimes ill do them socially like alcohol but I still prefer psychedelics the most.
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I only do jenkem, so I guess that makes me category 2?
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: birdland]
#19344906 - 12/30/13 04:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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birdland said: I only do jenkem, so I guess that makes me category 2?
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Re: The 5 leagues of drug usage [Re: Alexestalex]
#19344912 - 12/30/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been on leagues 4-5 during my time, atm I'm prolly between 3-4.
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