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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19343669 - 12/29/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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RiderOnTheStorm said: Hate to say it, but it sounds like maybe she loves the ice more than she loves you at the moment. Do you love her enough to weather it til she comes to her own realizations about it? Do you love her enough to watch it be the end of her?
I'd slap divorce papers in front of her and say "It's me or the meth, you have one day to decide."
Actually I see that you're broke, just get a business card from a divorce attorney and use that to legitimize the threat. No need to spend money having the papers drafted until she's made her choice.
This is what I'd probably do, honestly. But I don't think that'd be the right thing to do.
Also, my parents divorced a few months ago. You can get the papers online, you just have to pay to file, and do a parenting course online if you have kids. Cost my dad around $450 total. Would've been less, but my brother's 7, so he had to do the parenting course.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: TopPmz]
#19343764 - 12/29/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah it's a bit cold and selfish to do, but what are the other viable options? Have her arrested so she's forced to ween off in jail? That's way more fucked imo. OP already said that he can't afford rehab and that heartfelt talks and homelessness weren't effective. Although it's probably contrary to popular belief here, I doubt that more drugs are the answer either.
He could try giving her the silent treatment and withholding sex but something tells me she'd just find attention from some sketchy tweaker pal.
Does she ever make any real attempt to cut back OP? Does she acknowledge that she has a problem?
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19343778 - 12/29/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel a week in the basement would be effective.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: TopPmz]
#19343782 - 12/29/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's kidnapping isnt it?
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: underfliptown]
#19343789 - 12/29/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah pretty sure you could go to prison for that.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: underfliptown]
#19343792 - 12/29/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, but its for a good cause. Don't be a Debbie Downer man.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: nicechrisman]
#19343800 - 12/29/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Yeah pretty sure you could go to prison for that.
You can go to prison for meth, too.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: TopPmz]
#19343811 - 12/29/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not likely unless you are caught dealing large amounts. Besides, it would be his wife going to prison for that, which could do her good. He would be the one going to prison for kidnapping.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19343837 - 12/29/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does she ever make any real attempt to cut back OP? Does she acknowledge that she has a problem?
She has defiently cut back or she just started eating and sleeping a hell of alot more to cover it up
Even thought she was clean from it till tonight when i got out the shower she was asleep and it was sitting in her lap so atleast i know she didnt do any tonight then i flushed it
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: nicechrisman]
#19343870 - 12/29/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Honestly there really isn't much you can do to help her get off the meth if she isn't ready to give it up. If she is addicted then she could be cognizant of the fact that she needs to quit because she is killing herself and hurting the ones who love her, but still not be ready to quit. It is a tricky position. Often times when people are truly locked into a serious addiction they need to hit 'rock bottom' to truly be ready to give up their substance of choice, be it alcohol, benzos, amphetamines, opiates, Catholicism whatever...
Well, maybe hitting rock bottom won't help in the case of Catholicism 
Many people think that "rock bottom" needs to be when the addicted person looses everything that matters in their life, but really it could be any event that opens their eyes and shakes their psyche enough to the point where they realize that they NEED to change their behavior no matter what. This event needs to be shocking enough that they truly desire to give it up no matter how hard that will be.
That moment is different for everybody. For my high-school biology teacher that point was when he realized how many thousands of dollars he spent on his addiction, the man could have retired at the age of 40 and lived comfortably on what he spent on drinking if he just would have saved it. For my uncle it was when his liver gave out, he will literally die if he takes another drink. For a friend of mine who was addicted to whatever would get him fucked up it was his second OD.
Definitely keep talking to your wife, don't sit back and suffer silently while she spirals down a path of self-destruction. You can't make her stop, but she will hear what you have to say, even if she doesn't listen. If you can get some of her family to get in on the talking to her all intervention style that could be good. It may have to come down to an ultimatum; you may have to make her choose between you or the meth. Some people have suggested an intense psychedelic experience to shake her up, that may work, but if you go that route I'm not sure I would recommend ayahuasca unless you could get her to stop the meth and follow an MAOI diet first.
Forced imprisonment in a basement is not the answer. I'm sure that is a very tempting option, but I feel like that is playing with fire. People can do some pretty crazy things when you force them to do stuff against their will, especially if they are all tweaked out.
Good luck with your troubles OP, I truly hope things work out, and soon.  
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19343874 - 12/29/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well that's something, at least she's making an effort. Have you tried doing a full blown intervention with family members and whatnot? She might take it more seriously than a one on one discussion about her use.
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19343879 - 12/29/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1slow2v said: I love her so much and this is dragging her she has been but cant seem to do it years ago this shit ruined my life and now i sit here watchn it ruin hers what can i do before it ruins my families life
Stop trying to change other people. Meth is a wonderful medicine. Why are you so judgmental?
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19343883 - 12/29/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can sympathize with your situation man. I wish I had more answers for you. I think the best is the keep it out in the open and keep talking with her.
I'm sure there's a part of you that wants to leave her. I'm sure there's another part of you that thinks how hopeless she could be if you left her. And there's the part that loves her. Tough stuff man
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19343889 - 12/29/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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She has no other family excepf her junkie/prositute sister which she doesnt talk to
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19343918 - 12/29/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ridin the snake. Good evening 
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Re: what can i do to help get my wife off meth [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
#19344029 - 12/29/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have nothing to offer as far as getting her to quit. But if there is success in getting her to part ways from the meth, there are some herbs that I highly suggest utilizing that will help "ease" things, help nourish the mind & body.
Mucuna pruriens...The stuff is loaded with L-dopa & 5-HTP, the precursors to dopamine & serotonin. Also helps restore and bring balance to the adrenal & endorphin systems. Just over all is "tonifying" and balancing to the mind & body. Some terrific stuff. I can imagine one's neurotransmitters will be all out of wack from using meth regularly, so I don't see why this wouldn't help.
Kratom...Mostly known for tapering off opiates, but I've heard of people using it to get off meth as well. It can be rather stimulating and calming at the same time, and I can see it potentially cutting down on the "urge" to get high on something else. It has a pronounced anti-depressant effect for most people. So I can see it being helpful in combating the lethargy, dullness, and the urge to get high that I can imagine comes along with quitting meth...and raising one's spirits a bit. It's some good medicine.
Rhodiola rosea....An "adaptogen" of sorts. Generally speaking it helps reduce stress and increases both physical and mental energy, brings about a calm & positive sense of well being. One of the actions it has is mildly inhibiting the enzymes MAO(A) and MAO(B), which in turn leads to an increase of available serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine. It also influences the body's opioid peptides which can help one relax by triggering endogenous beta-endorphins.
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