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growing oyster mushrooms
    #19343086 - 12/29/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i am new to this forum, this will be my 2nd grow of a different kind. i have not tried oysters before and i would love to. what kind of materials are needed? can you grow them from a jar like the pf tek?


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19343118 - 12/29/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You wanna do pinks right?  You can do them pf-tek if you want.

Check out this person's pink oyster pf cake grow

For better yields, I'd PC and inoculate grain, and spawn that to pasteurized straw in logs, bags, or buckets.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19343128 - 12/29/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes i want to do pinks, are oysters a whole lot easier to grow them most mushrooms?


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19343163 - 12/29/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They're quite easy to grow, but need a lot of air.  If you don't have a fruiting chamber that can provide enough fresh air they will grow not very well at all.

It looks like that person in the link I posted used a SGFC so I guess that's sufficient.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19343170 - 12/29/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah thats what i have is a sgfc for my last grow, if you think my first time using verm will do just fine. which i prefer since i already have the materials. then i will take that route unless you think using sawdust would be easier/better?


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19343188 - 12/29/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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if you think my first time using verm will do just fine. which i prefer since i already have the materials. then i will take that route unless you think using sawdust would be easier/better?




I've never grown anything pf-tek style so idk.  Looks like that guy did well with brf + verm regular pf mix :shrug:

Oysters will grow on just about anything so I doubt it matters severely.  If you add/change anything from the pf recipe, just don't mess up your moisture content.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19343198 - 12/29/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok thanks for your help! i already like this forums better than the last one. too many jerks!!!


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19344196 - 12/29/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd PC and inoculate grain, and spawn that to pasteurized straw in logs, bags, or buckets.




Yep! 

I would also add that pink oysters are not as CO2 sensitive as say P. ostreatus.
As for moisture content, my biggest hurdle when I was first starting out was using too much water.
If you are unsure, add more dry ingredients and err on the dry side.

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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: FoxFire]
    #19345424 - 12/30/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

aw yes my pink oyster pf tek. ive grown to really hate pf tek, its just some much easier to get rye spawn and inoc straw or sawdust bag & youll get better yields. pf tek does work with edibles, use the SGFC. mist twice daily & fan. Also, make sure to leave off cover for high FAE(fresh air exchange) and make sure you have higher temps if growing pinks as winter temps (60's) are to cold for them. for whatever reason when I grew yellows on pf tek they never did as well as the pinks just a FYI


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: bjanuszewski]
    #19349031 - 12/30/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

on a site i read that pink oysters are pretty easy to grow. i did try cubes and i am still having a very hard time growing them. it was probably not the best decision i made to start out. i just wanted to find the most common thing people grow. i hope this turns out wonderfully well!


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19351370 - 12/31/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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on a site i read that pink oysters are pretty easy to grow. i did try cubes and i am still having a very hard time growing them. it was probably not the best decision i made to start out. i just wanted to find the most common thing people grow. i hope this turns out wonderfully well!




yea im actually growing some cubes and am having some trouble. you have to research what temps and RH they like & weather they like high FAE or not. my pinks loved the higher temps and FAE with no lid after that they took off. so its basically finding the sweet spot and what conditions your area gives you can decide which species to go with.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: bjanuszewski]
    #19352579 - 12/31/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Oysters are easier than pf tek as they can be fruited off more selective substrates unless you supplement. Djamor is a pretty species but in my opinion it has little culinary value.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #19352583 - 12/31/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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Oysters are easier than pf tek as they can be fruited off more selective substrates unless you supplement. Djamor is a pretty species but in my opinion it has little culinary value.




I think they're delicious :crazy2:  Man, you really hate oysters! lol


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19352608 - 12/31/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Haha. Totally subjective I guess. I like king oysters and Hypsizygus (spelling?) but yeah I'm not a huge oyster fan. The pink one (djamor) I remember as being bitter? Or am I getting confused? Loses its colour once cooked. A pity as its quite pretty.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #19352638 - 12/31/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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Haha. Totally subjective I guess. I like king oysters and Hypsizygus (spelling?) but yeah I'm not a huge oyster fan. The pink one (djamor) I remember as being bitter? Or am I getting confused? Loses its colour once cooked. A pity as its quite pretty.




Kings and Hypsizygus are superior, I won't disagree there!  I don't get bitter from the pinks, but they do smell strange.  Like pencil erasers.  And yeah they do turn the color of human flesh when cooked, which is kinda weird...


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19357504 - 01/02/14 07:30 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Oysters are easy to grow, and PF will work fine for pinks and greys.  Once you get that going I would suggest moving to straw and a larger FC.  FAE is the most important pinning trigger, so keep it up as much as possible while still maintaining humidity.  Be sure to post some pics!


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19358308 - 01/02/14 12:41 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

hi guys,

kinda new here as well. my first spawn bag arrived today and i want to inoculate my first straw log. now i followed every step in the 'let's grow mushrooms' vid but in the end the host says you need to put the log in a greenhouse or fruiting chamber. the thing is, i don't have anything quite that big to fruit it in. would normal roomtemperatures (19-21C) and  average humidity (not quite sure how humid it is over here, but i reckon it's pretty dry) suffice?? i'm growing yellow oysters by the way.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Haywire]
    #19358422 - 01/02/14 01:05 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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hi guys,

kinda new here as well. my first spawn bag arrived today and i want to inoculate my first straw log. now i followed every step in the 'let's grow mushrooms' vid but in the end the host says you need to put the log in a greenhouse or fruiting chamber. the thing is, i don't have anything quite that big to fruit it in. would normal roomtemperatures (19-21C) and  average humidity (not quite sure how humid it is over here, but i reckon it's pretty dry) suffice?? i'm growing yellow oysters by the way.




They will probably fruit, but not very well unless you can get the humidity up while maintaining FAE.  I have taken old logs and left them in very dry conditions (I had new ones to cycle into the FC) just to forget about them and then find a nice flush later on.  They will take moisture out of the substrate and they really do want to fruit.  What size tubing are you using, and how long of a log?  You may want to search for a Martha's closet tek.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Haywire]
    #19361148 - 01/02/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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hi guys,

kinda new here as well. my first spawn bag arrived today and i want to inoculate my first straw log. now i followed every step in the 'let's grow mushrooms' vid but in the end the host says you need to put the log in a greenhouse or fruiting chamber. the thing is, i don't have anything quite that big to fruit it in. would normal roomtemperatures (19-21C) and  average humidity (not quite sure how humid it is over here, but i reckon it's pretty dry) suffice?? i'm growing yellow oysters by the way.




You can get away with it, if you are there to mist with a spray bottle several times a day.  They will take longer to pin, because they want humidity - but oysters want to grow so bad, even without humidity they will pin.  Just mist as often as you can.  Over-misting will not hurt oysters.  (this is my experience, I've grown every oyster BUT yellow, they're the only ones I haven't grown, but should be similar enough)
Once the log is colonized you can keep a wet towel over it to create humidity that might help them pin.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19376534 - 01/06/14 09:44 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I've used most of the spawn to inoculate some grainjars. because i didn't have enough jars and i didn't want to let the rest of the spawn go to waste I inoculated a small bag of around 40 to 50 cm's long and around 30 cm diameter I guess. I've ordered the stuff to make the bubbleh as described in another tek but it hasn't arrived yet. I'll try and make a martha's closet and in the mean time use the wet towel or spray. what would be the best thing to do, wet towel or spray? I can do either one.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Haywire]
    #19376559 - 01/06/14 09:51 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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I've used most of the spawn to inoculate some grainjars. because i didn't have enough jars and i didn't want to let the rest of the spawn go to waste I inoculated a small bag of around 40 to 50 cm's long and around 30 cm diameter I guess. I've ordered the stuff to make the bubbleh as described in another tek but it hasn't arrived yet. I'll try and make a martha's closet and in the mean time use the wet towel or spray. what would be the best thing to do, wet towel or spray? I can do either one.




I'd maybe do the wet towel over it until you see pins, as soon as pins form take it off and just mist with water as much as you can.  You don't want the towel on there once the mushrooms have appeared as it could deprive them of air/light.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19376936 - 01/06/14 11:33 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

thanks man! will definetely try that. one more question, is it necessary to let the mycelium consolidate the substrate for a week after full colonization as you do with the brf cakes?


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Haywire]
    #19377868 - 01/06/14 03:47 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

i just got my syringe in today for the pinks. i havnt seen a solution yellow before.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19377936 - 01/06/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

i was reading with a culture syringe you can add bleach to your substrate for a less chance of contamination?


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Haywire]
    #19379784 - 01/06/14 10:12 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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i was reading with a culture syringe you can add bleach to your substrate for a less chance of contamination?




Don't use bleach, just properly pasteurize whatever substrate you're using and you should be good.  Or wait, are you doing PF cakes I can't remember?  Either way, don't use bleach.

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thanks man! will definetely try that. one more question, is it necessary to let the mycelium consolidate the substrate for a week after full colonization as you do with the brf cakes?




It'll fruit when it's ready, you don't really "let" it do anything.
In other words, yeah it will probably take some time between full colonization and fruiting, but that amount of time isn't really up to you :wink:  When it wants to start making mushrooms, it will!


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19379795 - 01/06/14 10:15 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

yeah pf cakes, i read the culture syringe grows faster then a regular muilti spore syringe?


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: ithernet]
    #19379862 - 01/06/14 10:25 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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yeah pf cakes, i read the culture syringe grows faster then a regular muilti spore syringe?




Very much true, it's already mycelium and you don't have to wait for spores to germinate so you're way ahead of that game.

The reason it's yellow is probably malt extract, or whatever the vendor used in making their liquid culture.


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19379872 - 01/06/14 10:26 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

yeah, i was wondering about that thanks


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #19441780 - 01/19/14 09:52 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

I'd maybe do the wet towel over it until you see pins, as soon as pins form take it off and just mist with water as much as you can.  You don't want the towel on there once the mushrooms have appeared as it could deprive them of air/light.




Hey man, just wanted to update you on the grow.
It's been going great. I had the towel on the bag for only two or three days, after that I couldn't be bothered with it anymore. The mycelium just wanted to pin so badly, just the way you described it. the mushrooms are piling out of the bag. I've placed it in the bathroom though, because of all the showers the humidity is a lot higher than anywhere else in the house. worked like a charm :smile:


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Re: growing oyster mushrooms [Re: Haywire]
    #19441896 - 01/19/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

Awesome!  Glad it worked out :smile:  Good idea using the shower's humidity


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