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Lion
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Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you
#19342717 - 12/29/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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From around 2005-2008, the Shroomery was a large part of my everyday life, and I was also discovering the psychedelic experience. Reflecting on it, it was a really magical time.
I often felt that Shroomerites were communicating hidden spiritual messages to me with their posts. As in, psychic messages and little jokes and koans that were guiding me in my life. This feeling was reinforced by lots of what I experienced as amazing synchronicities. Was it all delusion?
I still browse through redgreenvines' posts and feel that way, from time to time. But I generally experience that kind of ideation as a thing of the past, of my naive days of entheogenic exploration. Yet deep down I feel almost certain there was something profound in those interactions.
Has this sort of thing happened to you?
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deff
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Lion]
#19342874 - 12/29/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey Lion, haven't seen you here in quite a while 
I don't think I've experienced that kind of thing with messages online though, just wanted to say hi
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: deff] 1
#19343463 - 12/29/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interestingly enough I've felt this as well... just for a period of a couple months though and it coincided with heavy dissociative use. 
Regardless of the validity of the feeling, profundity can still be gleaned from any interaction, even if imaginary/non-existent IMO.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: deCypher] 1
#19343620 - 12/29/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I seem to sync up with different folks for a bit and then drift away. No drugs required. No internet required.
Its more thematic than anything IME. Like a mini culture that springs up to emphasize some particular aspect of life before fading away. Group think that provides a relatable experience from a unique perspective while maintaining a common theme. Say that 10 times fast.
I have experienced it more intimately as well but less frequently.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Kickle] 1
#19343783 - 12/29/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Synchronicity abounds sir! I think that this plane of existence isn't nearly as set in thermoplastic as most do. It's a communal agreement on a consensus reality. All of everythings' consciousness tunnels coalescing into existence itself. All is one friend. Take meaning from the experience, real or not.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Lion]
#19343940 - 12/29/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've had experiences of similar nature. I had a couple trips a few years ago where id be so far gone and somehow felt like I was interacting with OC.
Sometimes this place is full of magical insight. Other times it's just a drug-fueled group of delusional misfits.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Lion]
#19344387 - 12/30/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lion said: From around 2005-2008, the Shroomery was a large part of my everyday life, and I was also discovering the psychedelic experience. Reflecting on it, it was a really magical time.
I often felt that Shroomerites were communicating hidden spiritual messages to me with their posts. As in, psychic messages and little jokes and koans that were guiding me in my life. This feeling was reinforced by lots of what I experienced as amazing synchronicities. Was it all delusion?
Ok I'm confused, is the question regading magic spiritual psychic messages, or is the question regarding intentional esoteric concepts or messages, potentially with spiritual significance??
I'm sure people have left their messages between their lines if you mean the latter.
I am either confused with the title, or some of the responses. The word esoteric doesn't have anything to with synchronicity..... Perhaps synchronization of diction, and grammar.
Esoteric: intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest. "esoteric philosophical debates" synonyms: abstruse, obscure, arcane, recherché, rarefied, recondite, abstract;
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Middleman

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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Lion]
#19344410 - 12/30/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lion said:
Has this sort of thing happened to you?
Big time. We are one, but I don't like some of you.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Middleman]
#19344420 - 12/30/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm rather hurt you'd say that.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Lion] 1
#19344542 - 12/30/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, the first honest question I've seen in awhile here... Absolutely yes, projection from my mind onto the arbitrary with cosmic features was routine from my psychedelic hay days, and is absolutely hysterical in retrospect. Awhile back MtG was talking to me about misinterpreting some Grateful Dead lyrics on some totally whack Cosmic proportion in his 500ug+ teens -- I tried to tell him that everybody does that in some sense, that pareidolia is a common phenomenon experienced by everyone.
But I hear you, I'm a big old Cosmic Schmuck, is why I chose this handle.
Edit: in specifics, now that I think about it, a poster TameMe from the P&S forums a good decade ago quite candidly and frankly talked about some of his issues that mirrored mine verbatim in terms of my internal thoughts, in a way that was shocking and scary, to the point I got a good deal paranoid but I was just really fuckin' high.
Edited by CosmicJoke (12/30/13 01:48 AM)
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Middleman

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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: CosmicJoke] 2
#19344597 - 12/30/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pareidolia is one thing, but some of us have experienced enough objective and demonstrable coincidences to make it clear that "something is going on."
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Middleman]
#19344613 - 12/30/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, that's what you want to believe, that the Universe really cares about you enough to send you a message. Then again, maybe that message is from your subconscious, signaling to you to wake the fuck up. Either way, it's important and not to be ignored.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Middleman]
#19344615 - 12/30/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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isnt the feeling just that their consciousness is the same as yours?:-)
get that feeling all the time, both on shroomery and IRL it usually turns out to be true, they know exactly what I do, and I seem to know what they do sometimes different time on the path, but same path it seems and all the same inside, maybe that is what is recognized
delusion, only if it doesnt fit your life experience
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Middleman

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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19344624 - 12/30/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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CosmicJoke said: Well, that's what you want to believe, that the Universe really cares about you enough to send you a message. Then again, maybe that message is from your subconscious, signaling to you to wake the fuck up. Either way, it's important and not to be ignored.
Gee, thanks oh, wise one. "Subconscious."
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: lessismore]
#19344642 - 12/30/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's interesting that we're all one being/person and it seems to fill the existential void of not knowing why/who you are, it also fixes the existential crisis of not knowing what the fuck is happening and annihilation being imminent (if you've ever experienced that, probably in adolescence), but there is more to life than realising you are God. It's not as straight and simple as God wanted to play a game so here it is, the actual situation of existing as a human being is a living conundrum, the world is some kind of deceptive construct. The idea seems to be to try and "work it out." To try to understand what is happening. The scientific picture is just a picture and it has nothing to do with life.
And yeah when I was taking mushrooms and browsing shroomery it seemed like a lot more was going on, secret messages, like we were all in on something together.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Middleman]
#19344650 - 12/30/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Pareidolia is one thing, but some of us have experienced enough objective and demonstrable coincidences to make it clear that "something is going on."
Wait! I just thought of another shroomery experience, that was absolutely quintessential to my life
So I had just registered to the boards, and posted a big, long rant of psychobabble on P&S about Robert Anton Wilson & synchronicity. Do you at all remember the poster gnrm23?? The guy invites me to a psychedelic festival, WinterStar, and no more than a week later I'm meeting Robert Anton Wilson in the flesh ------- and we're both wearing the same red 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band' shirt. He's in a wheel chair, gnrm23 right next to me, and I hold his glass of water while he flips through _The Game of Life_ by Timothy Leary (RAW did the intro) that I had just bought from The Association of Consciousness Expansion book store. He laughs and jokes a bit, and I ask him about Christopher S. Hyatt (which he had co-authored a book with) and said he could be a bit intimidating at times, and he roared 'oh, he's a big pussycat'.... Then I walked in and watched Rev. Ivan Stang give a devival..... cwazy cwazy.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19344655 - 12/30/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck we are so alike, maybe thats why I dislike you.
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Middleman]
#19344666 - 12/30/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rev. Morton said:
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CosmicJoke said: Well, that's what you want to believe, that the Universe really cares about you enough to send you a message. Then again, maybe that message is from your subconscious, signaling to you to wake the fuck up. Either way, it's important and not to be ignored.
Gee, thanks oh, wise one. "Subconscious." 
Or maybe Subgenius Convictions make convicts.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: circastes]
#19344668 - 12/30/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: It's interesting that we're all one being/person and it seems to fill the existential void of not knowing why/who you are, it also fixes the existential crisis of not knowing what the fuck is happening and annihilation being imminent (if you've ever experienced that, probably in adolescence), but there is more to life than realising you are God. It's not as straight and simple as God wanted to play a game so here it is, the actual situation of existing as a human being is a living conundrum, the world is some kind of deceptive construct. The idea seems to be to try and "work it out." To try to understand what is happening. The scientific picture is just a picture and it has nothing to do with life.
And yeah when I was taking mushrooms and browsing shroomery it seemed like a lot more was going on, secret messages, like we were all in on something together.
Yup agree, even though I used to be much into science and still am ;-)
Not a member of the church of science applied to everything any longer though
To live is to learn, experience etc., to take part of it all
Anyone feeling crazy should read "the power of now", eckhart tolle my uniqueness went away in a split second after reading that one ;-)
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Re: Feeling that other users are communicating directly and esoterically with you [Re: Middleman]
#19344676 - 12/30/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Fuck we are so alike, maybe thats why I dislike you. 
Gotta excommunicate fellow Discordians.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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