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MrHill
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Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. 1
#19342347 - 12/29/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Me and my friend each dosed 3.5 grams worth of homemade syrian rue extract at about midnight. We waited about 40 minutes to be sure that it kicked in, and then drank the slurry of lemon juice with about 80 mg of dmt dissolved in it. We went downstairs, turned on the fire, grabbed a puke bucket and played some Pink Floyd. The first effects I noticed were the slight wiggling of the carpet and fireplace, everything began to develop a tryptamine glow. My friend told me he was going to puke, so he grabbed the bucket and hunched over it. The sound of him puking made me sick, so I went into the bathroom and puked in the toilet. It was a hard purge, I felt like I was being strangled and I broke some blood vessels under my eyes and in my nose. Puke, mucus, tears and blood (from my nose) all poured from me into the toilet. I felt a million times better and went back into the living room.
Now, there's something that I was being a little risky about. 36 hours before my MAOI dose, I had a small (1.5) gram dose of Kratom, which according to my research does not react very nicely with the MAOI. This was a cause for a little anxiety, as I felt very very stimulated and in my suggestible state this caused me to freak out a bit. I got the standard over stimulation symptoms such as tingling in the extremities and an elevated heart rate.
I started tripping very, very hard, while my friend despite having the same dose was probably a +1. This was probably the hardest I've ever tripped. I've eaten 700 micrograms of LSD, and 7.5 grams of mushrooms in the past, and this really surpassed that. I started losing touch with reality, I remember touching the ground and not feeling it, but feeling my soul being torn from this reality. I heard the loud buzzing sound of me blasting off, I felt this strong physical urge to lay down and close my eyes. I felt like I was poisoned. Something was trying to make me go to sleep, and I interrupted this death, which I fought. I thought if I slept, I wouldn't wake up. Now, this was all paranoia, but it still scared me. I did the worst thing possible, and fought the trip. I'm an experienced psychonaut, and I understand that when you're tripping hard, the worst thing you can do is fight the experience, but I felt that I didn't have a choice. I felt like I was going to pass out, so I laid down for cuddles and to relax. The trip started to calm down and I felt more relaxed and talked with my friend. Once I realized that I really was going to live and be ok, I felt so relieved that my mood suddenly went right into a state of relaxation and tranquility. My friend redosed to boost his trip a bit and we stayed up a few more hours talking about life and death and everything in between. We went to bed at about 5 am and I went into a deep slumber, waking up at 11 am, with a slight headache and very tired. Now it's 3 PM and I feel pretty great. I learned so much from this surreal experience. I got my ass kicked. The first time that that has happened with psychs in quite a while. And quite frankly, I need that. I was being reckless with the Kratom and I paid the price. I saw my life flash before my eyes, and when you experience something, were you think you're actually going to die - it makes you want to change. This truly is spirit medicine. It showed me everything wrong with my life at the moment, and what I need to do to fix it. I need to stop being so reckless with what I put into my body, and my health. I need to be more grateful for the wonderful and enlightened beings I have in my life. My friends, my family, my foes. I'm a blessed individual, and I have so much potential that I need to act upon.
Next time I choose to indulge in an oral DMT experience, it will no doubt be taken with much more care and hopefully a shaman will be present. I didn't really understand how different this would be from mushrooms or LSD. But this isn't just a tool, or a drug. It's a medicine. It shows you everything, and now I must make decisions based on what I learned. I've met spirits and entities and aliens and they showed me just what I needed. Namaste
-------------------- "The only one who's really judging you is yourself. Nobody else." -Tame Impala DOI Overdose Trip Report
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lessismore
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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: MrHill]
#19342369 - 12/29/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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accept death always :-)
I know the feeling of passing out all too well ;-) heh and yes it does change you, you come back a new person same soul though, who we are inside never changes
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MrHill
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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: lessismore]
#19346438 - 12/30/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah it was a pretty intense experience. Can't wait until I have a chance to do it with a shaman in the jungle
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s240779

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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: MrHill]
#19346561 - 12/30/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just want to say that I think the idea that ayahuasca or whatever you wanna call it has to be reserved for an ayahuasca ceremony is a stereotype.
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MrHill
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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: s240779]
#19351849 - 12/31/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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That's great that you think that I guess. But after experiencing it, I would want to do it with a shaman next time
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s240779

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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: MrHill]
#19351861 - 12/31/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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But didn't you say that you had an adverse reaction that was caused by prior ingestion of kratom?
Nat Geo's Hallucinogens episode profiles the man who prepares the brew for a certain organization and they docuemnt how he tests each batch by taking a low dose. So that's an example of casual ayahuasca use in a traditional setting.
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rikuni

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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: MrHill]
#19351885 - 12/31/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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thats the best way but even much more intense than what you did
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MrHill
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Re: Spirit Medicine. A pharmahuasca experience. [Re: rikuni]
#19354992 - 01/01/14 02:46 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Yeah the kratom really threw me off, which was a cause for a bad experience for the most part, but the sheer intensity of the trip scared me half to death. Like i've said, I've eaten a shit ton of psychedelics, and my friend and I ate the same dose here - and I tripped waaaay harder than he did. IMO that's the medicine giving me what I needed. It was so intense. I feel that if I was tripping to the point if where I laid down, I would be swept away and start having visions and meet entities, it would be better to be with a shaman. The dose with ayahuasca seems to be completely subjective and I wouldn't trust taking a "low dose". But this is just my personal preference  This drug didn't seem recreational to me, like LSD and mushrooms can. I didn't get the giggles or anything cool. Just hard tripping and self reevaluation, a true psychedelic.
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