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573seba
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how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy)
#19341443 - 12/29/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I understand you cant breed a cubensis with a cyan or an oyster, but how does breeding within the cubensis race take place? would I just put the two fruiting mushies together and collect the spores? thanks
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: 573seba]
#19341630 - 12/29/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rattlesnake Venom on agar....it breaks down the cell walls and allows the two to share genetic information....RR is the only one I've read about who has done it.
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: 573seba]
#19341677 - 12/29/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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573seba said: I understand you cant breed a cubensis with a cyan or an oyster, but how does breeding within the cubensis race take place? would I just put the two fruiting mushies together and collect the spores? thanks
start here by reading these...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6205214#6205214 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4520275/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: Paulsage]
#19342152 - 12/29/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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within the cubensis you would just get a monokaryon from each subvarietey and put them together, they may or may not mate,
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: shopdropper]
#19351581 - 12/31/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i took a print on top of a print, if their compatible its hard to miss venom will work for the non compatibles
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: cronicr]
#19359098 - 01/02/14 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you isolate a "cross"? Or just the one generation?
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: dceodhz]
#19359125 - 01/02/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah i put the print to agar and isolated like normal, should have some in fruiting to see if anything happens this month sometime, i printed a ksss on top of an albino a+, things i'm looking for are a thicker veil,heavier printing or more normal non bell shaped caps, i'll clone those (should it work)fruit it out and take spores from any that look like what i'm looking for and repeat
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: cronicr]
#19359143 - 01/02/14 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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something like RUST SPORE AND aa+ would be easy to spot
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: 573seba]
#19363040 - 01/03/14 11:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what I've read in other threads, you can dilute the spores and then attempt to grow them out. If there is any dikaryotic mycelium, then just discard it. Now you have all these separate agar plates with monokaryotic mycelium. One collection would be one strain the other would be another. Breed the colony withe the most desireable traits (quick growth, blue staining mycelium) with a select colony with the most desirable traits to produce a single dikaryotic mycelium formed via anastomosis. Breed this out with spores. Presumably a couple generations down would produce a subspecies? Maybe if that is continued? The snake venom thing seems like a really interesting idea.
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: Jabre]
#19368671 - 01/04/14 02:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does anyone know of any substances which might damage cell walls to improve the successes of this other than rattlesnake venom? I have seen Nicotenic acid mentioned, but with spotty success.
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: thelorax121]
#19371211 - 01/05/14 02:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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When crossing so-called strains of the same species, you don't need venom or anything else. The spores are compatible. RR
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19374504 - 01/05/14 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: When crossing so-called strains of the same species, you don't need venom or anything else. The spores are compatible. RR
why then did you need venom for the redboy revival? IIRC you just used another cube (puerto rican)... would love to know.
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: 573seba]
#27490014 - 10/02/21 02:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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thank you all for the info
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: 573seba]
#27490056 - 10/02/21 03:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good Thang you came back 7 tears later to thank them, if you'd waited any longer RR might be dead ha. Jk RR.
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: QM33] 1
#27490135 - 10/02/21 04:41 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL it's even funnier that it's actually the OP and not some random.
First post was the thread. 7 years later he comes back and thanks them.
Was it one of those "shit, I left the oven on" moments, and you just had to come back to say it?
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: Guerrilla]
#27494004 - 10/05/21 07:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Regardless, I wish more people were that polite sometimes. You usually never hear back.
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Re: how does one breed 2 mushroom subraces together? (ie- albino and penis envy) [Re: Tas75]
#27494934 - 10/06/21 02:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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epic
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