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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19340757 - 12/29/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Orellanine?
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Sporulator]
#19340829 - 12/29/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Sporulator]
#19340849 - 12/29/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19340873 - 12/29/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A potent peptide antibiotic from an ascomycete...
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Sporulator]
#19340878 - 12/29/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Plectasin?
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19340896 - 12/29/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Sporulator]
#19340969 - 12/29/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another mycotoxin:

Hints/clues on request.
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19340972 - 12/29/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is it found in the genus Amanita?
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19340975 - 12/29/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
The Lightning said: Is it found in the genus Amanita?
Not as I know of.
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19340984 - 12/29/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do symptoms include death?
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19341018 - 12/29/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
The Lightning said: Do symptoms include death?
Primarily death of cells, but apparently indirectly potentially deadly.
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19341070 - 12/29/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How many genera is it known to occur in? When was it first discovered?
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19341084 - 12/29/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Lightning said: How many genera is it known to occur in? When was it first discovered?
One genus. The species and toxin in question was, as far as I know, discovered not more than a little over 10 years ago.
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19341140 - 12/29/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is there a sub-category within mycotoxins that it is listed in?
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19341167 - 12/29/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've mostly forgotten how to do organic nomenclature, but:
7-deoxy nivalenol-8-isobutanoate-4,6-diethanoate?
Or some common name I can't find…
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: raceme]
#19341330 - 12/29/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Lightning said: Is there a sub-category within mycotoxins that it is listed in?
Yes. It is a trichothecene.
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raceme said: 7-deoxynivalenol-8-isobutanoate-4,6-diethanoate?
No, but you're on the right track.
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#19341356 - 12/29/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is it HT-2 (or MYCOTOXIN T2)?
Edited by The Lightning (12/29/13 12:42 PM)
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19341408 - 12/29/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Lightning said: Is it HT-2 (or MYCOTOXIN T2)?
It is indeed. 
12,13-Epoxytrichothec-9-ene-3,4,8,15-tetrol-4,15-diacetate-8-isovalerate, 4β,15-Diacetoxy-3α-hydroxy-8α-(3-methylbutyryloxy)-12,13-epoxytrichothec-9-ene
From Fusarium langsethiae, apparently also occuring in other species of Fusarium.
http://ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scf/out88_en.pdf
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: raceme]
#19341413 - 12/29/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright - here's the next one.
There are two images here and they represent the identical chemical.


Note: This chemical is popularly thought to provide a feeling of well-being to all humans. It is similar in structure to psilocybin and psilocin. It is a neurotransmitter.
To make this one a little more tricky, I'm adding a few extra criteria. Whoever answers correctly must tell us the chemical name, the chemical formula, explain the chemical formula (in terms of how to read the formula), and tell us something factual about the chemical using a picture.
Note: If you're out of Shroomery storage space for images, you can use a Photobucket account and click the IMG link to automatically copy the URL, then paste the IMG URL into your Shroomery post to add the photo.
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Re: Guess That Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!! [Re: The Lightning]
#19341538 - 12/29/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Lightning said: Note: This chemical is popularly thought to provide a feeling of well-being to all humans. It is similar in structure to psilocybin and psilocin. It is a neurotransmitter.
To make this one a little more tricky, I'm adding a few extra criteria. Whoever answers correctly must tell us the chemical name, the chemical formula, explain the chemical formula (in terms of how to read the formula), and tell us something factual about the chemical using a picture.
Note: If you're out of Shroomery storage space for images, you can use a Photobucket account and click the IMG link to automatically copy the URL, then paste the IMG URL into your Shroomery post to add the photo.
Serotonin
chemical name: 5-hydroxytryptamine or 5-HT the chemical formula: C10H12N2O how to read the formula: 3-(2-aminoethyl)-1H-indol-5-ol something factual: "In animals including humans, serotonin is synthesized from the amino acid L-tryptophan by a short metabolic pathway consisting of two enzymes: tryptophan hydroxylase (TPH) and amino acid decarboxylase (DDC)."

(source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin)
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