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Is racism allowed at the shroomery?
    #19338389 - 12/28/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know it is in OTD, but what about eveywhere else?


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix]
    #19339082 - 12/28/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Or specifically threads about racism where the OP is showing that he may be racist himself.  That would still make it appropriate in a psychology forum imo.  This is always going to likely be at the discretion of the moderator.  I see no actual rule on the subject in the forum I frequent.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19339386 - 12/28/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Rascism is certainly not allowed, talking about rascism should be fine, although some people get insta-butthurt with anything to do with the subject and pull out the "PC" card.. If it's happening provide me a link please.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: karode13]
    #19339683 - 12/29/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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SneezingPenis said:
yeah, it really has nothing to do with skin color. I treat wiggers the same way. the more a person expresses american black culture, generally, the worse they are as a human being.

I am not racist, I am culturalist.

I think the american black culture is toxic, unprogressive and with the exception of very few things, completely useless and in fact a retarding force for everyone involved and having the misfortune of being in the vicinity of abject niggerdom.



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So I guess calling someone an Atheist or an Agnostic should also be considered as an ad hominem?

:braindamage:




what is the fundamental difference between calling someone a racist and calling someone a nigger?

I am not one of those people who bemoan the liberal use of "nigger" by black people and whine that "white people can't use it".

but is it not a racist concept to change the contextual meaning of a word based solely on a persons skin color? If it is ok for black people to say nigger, but not ok for white people... why is that not a racist concept?




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19251216/fpart/2#19251216

Mods there won't do anything about it, so maybe it should be escalated>?


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix]
    #19339707 - 12/29/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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the attitude that passes as modern day racism isn't generally one on one... meaning nobody thinks "stupid nigger" when they pass a black person in the hallway, or see them in the doctors waiting area. it is when they are in groups or in certain social situations and they are acting stereotypically black. See, your average racist by todays standards aren't hateful of the individual black person, but rather the type of person that black culture is producing. black culture is toxic, lazy, selfish and oblivious. It is when these traits of black culture are expressed by a black person that we think "stupid nigger".

I am considered racist by todays standards, but let me let you in on my thought process, because you are way off. I don't see a black person and think "goddamn nigger". doesn't happen that way. I see a persons demeanor,attitude,style/aesthetic choices and the way they speak and add that all up and THEN see that they are black and say "oh, thats the reason, they never learned how to not be a nigger". if they are well spoken and dressed appropriately nobody thinks "this fuckin nigger".

The person holding up the line at the convenience store scratching off lottery tickets and not moving, pants around his thighs and then buys 2 blount wraps with nickels and pennies and then hops in his 1998 maroon impala with new rims and shaking the windows with shitty bass from a shitty rap song... yeah, that is when people like me just shake their head and think "what a fuckin nigger".

it isn't white people "keeping darky down". it is black people that keep other black people down, by buying into this toxic culture and never learning another way to act. Furthermore, they actually make the idealized black dream to be a hustle. the end game is to never have to work and have everything handed to you for free. Females learn that they need to start making baby daddies as soon as possible, start gettin dem checks. It is only when a black person rises up from that bullshit that they get my respect as an equal of society.

now, I don't go out and subjugate black people. I just try to avoid those types of black people. I don't want to be around them, because it isn't about the color of their skin, but rather a CHOICE that they have made to buy into that toxic black culture and perpetuate it.





He's pretending he is being philosophical to use racist comments, when he could get the same point across without such degrading verbage.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix]
    #19340204 - 12/29/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It depends if it's in good taste.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix]
    #19340361 - 12/29/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Actually a mods are posting in that thread and see no problem. It's turned into a very good discussion imo.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix]
    #19343001 - 12/29/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Seeing as I don't mod that forum and the moderators that do are posting in the thread, it's out of my hands.:shrug:


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: karode13] * 1
    #19344733 - 12/30/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

lol karode ur impotent.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teamkiller]
    #19345464 - 12/30/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am a mod of that forum, I didn't handle that ticket however I would not have closed the thread because it turned into a good discussion around racism which is the point of the PS&P forum (debating, discussing things, even those that are not PC).

I am not racist at all, in fact my past history will show heavy infractions against racist bigots.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: Cyclohexylamine] * 3
    #19345584 - 12/30/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your past history shows that quite often you wouldn't recognize a racist bigot if one walked up to you and pissed on your foot.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19345621 - 12/30/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Your past history shows that quite often you wouldn't recognize a racist bigot if one walked up to you and pissed on your foot.



Thanks for the compliment :smile:


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19345702 - 12/30/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Your past history shows that quite often you wouldn't recognize a racist bigot if one walked up to you and pissed on your foot.




:lol:  In a way I agree.  Anyone making the claim that they are not racist ever is not being honest or at best very aware of the little ways we can all be racist at times.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: Icelander]
    #19345805 - 12/30/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My comment was directed toward his ability to see racism where there is none.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19346024 - 12/30/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He's not singling out all black people, just those in to a specific culture. Therefore it's not racist.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teamkiller]
    #19347992 - 12/30/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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lol karode ur impotent.





:lol:


Mods of that forum were online so was out of my hands. It was a distasteful discussion anyway.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: teknix]
    #19349327 - 12/31/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I know it is in OTD, but what about eveywhere else?




I don't think there is a sitewide policy about it, however racist posts outside of OTD often fall under flaming/trolling rules.


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19353653 - 01/01/14 03:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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teknix said:
I know it is in OTD, but what about eveywhere else?




I don't think there is a sitewide policy about it, however racist posts outside of OTD often fall under flaming/trolling rules.




I would have thought racism was against the rules, however what about bigotry?

Myself, I hate all bigots. :shrug:


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: Vitalux]
    #19353659 - 01/01/14 04:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would have thought racism was against the rules, however what about bigotry?





It is hard to define racism, and we don't want to stop people from talking about race issues.  If they are trolling with it we get them for that, otherwise it's not much of a problem....


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Re: Is racism allowed at the shroomery? [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #19354448 - 01/01/14 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would have thought racism was against the rules, however what about bigotry?





It is hard to define racism, and we don't want to stop people from talking about race issues.  If they are trolling with it we get them for that, otherwise it's not much of a problem....





Yeah, I agree with this.  I got the notification for that thread and didn't close it because I can't find any clear violation of the forum or site rules.  As far as I'm concerned, racist posts are allowed in the philosophy forum if they are topical and not trolling.  i.e. someone who's honestly a racist can argue the point but will be banned if they start attacking other posters or just posting to get a rise out of people. If the admins want, they can promulgate a sitewide policy on this kinda thing, but untill that happens, or the other philosophy mods disagree, that's how I handle it.

In this case I can't even say the original poster was racist, so I don't think it even matters.  The post may be offensive, prejudiced, or indelicate, but that's a far cry from actually advocating racial superiority or hatred.


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