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Fapmaster Flex
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Misting PF cakes a few times per hour?
#19339141 - 12/28/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys, From what I have read, mushrooms thrive in environments with high humidity and lots of FAE, which makes misting and fanning often GOOD. I had problems with water-logged cakes and fuzzy stem bases, which indicates too much misting and a lack of FAE.
I wondered, if I were to be in my house all day with LOTS of free time, could I leave a fan constantly pointed at my sgfc and mist HEAVILY a few times per hour?
I have searched the forum for a few hours without finding any info. I have read that letting a fan pointed on sgfc at all times could cause the substrates to dry out but i don't see how this would be a problem if I were to mist as much as needed.
I am growing brf cakes with the pf method.
Thanks, FF
Edited by Fapmaster Flex (12/29/13 01:17 AM)
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? *DELETED* [Re: Fapmaster Flex]
#19339188 - 12/28/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: ringzero]
#19339198 - 12/28/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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make sure the perlite isn't clogging the bottom holes, sometimes the finer perlite will do this and stop the airflow from working right
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: cronicr]
#19339237 - 12/28/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hole placement on your sgfc and the amount of ambient airflow in the room where the sgfc is. it needs at lease SOME airflow so if you have it crammed into the back of a closet that would be problematic...
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Fapmaster Flex
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: Paulsage]
#19339567 - 12/28/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for your answers fellow shroomerites,
My SGFC is technically in a closet but with LOTS of space around. The doors close very loosely and I leave them open during most of the day so I don't think that is a problem. They are mainly there to block light from shining in at night (I am a late sleeping fellow).
I thought giving those bad boys large amounts of FAE, in addition to keeping CO2 at bay, would help trigger pinning because of constant substrate evaporation.
I must remind you guys that I am 3 meters away from my cakes and check them a few times per hour. Whenever they are on the point to or just stopped glistening (i.e. slightly drying), I give them a solid misting until they get their nice shine back, and so on. Would the perlite dry too much? I am spraying all around the fc to make sure it gets rehydrated at the same time.
What I thought I understood in my readings here is that it was necessary to let the cakes surface lose a bit of moisture between misting/fanning sessions. In this logic, would'nt it be the best of the two worlds to always fan and periodically mist? Isn't that what greenhouses are all about?
Just want to make clear that I don't know what the heck I am doing. I really am a total newb and am aware that the tek has been proven already so I am obviously doing something else wrong to have such a mediocre fruiting. However, I really need to understand why I should not be doing this because it kind of makes sense in my (probably distorted) sense of logic.
Edited by Fapmaster Flex (12/28/13 11:41 PM)
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: Fapmaster Flex]
#19340010 - 12/29/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds to me like you gonna love them to death Unless you live in a really dry climate, misting then fanning 3x a day is enough. You could probably get away with less. Don't run the fan and try and mist lots to compensate, just let the SGFC do its thing, the cakes do theirs and mist enough to keep them moist. Don't mist unless they need it.
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19341164 - 12/29/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I kind of love them with very intense feelings . But can someone explain to me the precise reason why I should not fan all the time even if the cakes are monitored closely? I really think understanding this would help me get the bigger picture right.
The only reason I can see that could be bad is that it could lower air humidity while keeping the surface of the cakes wet. But then again, would'nt water evaporating from them humidify the fruit bodies?
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: Fapmaster Flex]
#19341188 - 12/29/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The reason is that your human. One day your gonna forget to mist for a whole day and then we see a post saying "Help I've been running a fan on my SGFC and misting every twenty min to compensate. Last night I fell asleep and all my mushies aborted!" Really there is no reason to go to these lengths when the SGFC will work properly if used as intended. That alone is reason enough not to fuck with it.
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: Fapmaster Flex]
#19341204 - 12/29/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think misting and fanning them that much is like growing them in fast forward. You need to give the process time to work on it's own without rushing it. Your logic is sound, it's just that the amount of misting and fanning set out beforehand is what has been proven to work. Any more than that i think stops becoming beneficial.
I'm a noob myself, and i understand where you're coming from, you always want to use what common sense you have to try and make things better...but they're already proven...just replace that insatiable love for your shrooms and turn some into patience.... it'll work.
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Re: Misting a few times per hour with a fan pointed at SGFC ? [Re: Fapmaster Flex]
#19341420 - 12/29/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
What I thought I understood in my readings here is that it was necessary to let the cakes surface lose a bit of moisture between misting/fanning sessions. In this logic, would'nt it be the best of the two worlds to always fan and periodically mist? Isn't that what greenhouses are all about?
That's pretty much what's happening already in a SGFC with all those holes. I've seen no difference whatsoever in a properly made SGFC that is occasionally fanned and one that's only misted without any additional fanning.
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