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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338501 - 12/28/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sure icelander, if your doctor is a racist, it should be fairly easy to provide such evidence.





There is no evidence that Doctor's exist.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338502 - 12/28/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I judge everyone based on their individual merits. I don't treat any minority better or worse than any other. I also believe that black people tend to have lower IQ's, and not because of any issues with culture bias or any thing else related to IQ testing. Am I racist? Am I stupid?


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338506 - 12/28/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not taking any of your words for it, put up some legit evidence or stfu.




What would be legit evidence?  And try and make me stfu.  I have no idea what your problem is but it's fucking stoopid imo.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: Icelander]
    #19338507 - 12/28/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sure there is. Maybe not proof, but plenty of evidence, which is what I think you are confusing.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: robbyberto]
    #19338512 - 12/28/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I judge everyone based on their individual merits. I don't treat any minority better or worse than any other. I also believe that black people tend to have lower IQ's, and not because of any issues with culture bias or any thing else related to IQ testing. Am I racist? Am I stupid?




Nope. I agree with you.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338514 - 12/28/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: Roger Wilco] * 2
    #19338529 - 12/28/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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All isms are idiocies.





Like absolutism?


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: 404]
    #19338534 - 12/28/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Or shroomerism.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: 404]
    #19338536 - 12/28/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338547 - 12/28/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sure there is. Maybe not proof, but plenty of evidence, which is what I think you are confusing.




Dude, you're just upset that your crazy theory of people that don't like blacks are stupid, when in fact highly intelligent people also don't like blacks.

Many highly educated people know blacks are statistically more likely to commit a criminal act against them or their property, this is basic commonsense. It makes perfect sense for highly educated people to be fearful of blacks.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: qman]
    #19338552 - 12/28/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

On average they are less intelligent than their counterparts.

I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338560 - 12/28/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't seen any evidence from you either. :haha:


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338651 - 12/28/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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On average they are less intelligent than their counterparts.

I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary.




Show me these "intelligent" white liberals that define themselves as color blind?

They claim they are NOT racist, but guess what?  They know a few decent black people and think they now have evolved into a higher state of social consciousness, but they are full of shit.

The first time you bring them into a black ghetto or housing project, they will beg you to take them home, they will all of a sudden change their minds about blacks, funny how that works.

Do these intelligent white liberals live near blacks?  No.
Do they date blacks? No.
Do they let their children socialize with blacks? No.

So all they really do is talk about not being racist, well my friend, you have been suckered by a bunch of hypocrites.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: Icelander]
    #19338655 - 12/28/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I haven't seen any evidence from you either. :haha:




Yes you did, in the OP. You should know by now that it is impossible for you to get under my skin. Try harder.

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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: qman]
    #19338664 - 12/28/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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On average they are less intelligent than their counterparts.

I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary.




Show me these "intelligent" white liberals that define themselves as color blind?

They claim they are NOT racist, but guess what?  They know a few decent black people and think they now have evolved into a higher state of social consciousness, but they are full of shit.

The first time you bring them into a black ghetto or housing project, they will beg you to take them home, they will all of a sudden change their minds about blacks, funny how that works.

Do these intelligent white liberals live near blacks?  No.
Do they date blacks? No.
Do they let their children socialize with blacks? No.

So all they really do is talk about not being racist, well my friend, you have been suckered by a bunch of hypocrites.




Then you shouldn't have any problem finding a citation from a respectable person who back up your claims.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: Icelander]
    #19338691 - 12/28/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It was even brought up in a psychology lecture back in the day that blacks "for some reason, controlling for all biases" consistently score the lowest out of the races in intellectual tasks.

I just make the observation the races are completely different personalities in general. They are different in fundamental ways culture won't change.

Race isn't a traditional thing, it's not an idea of the past... it's actually true that these already obviously different looking human beings are also different in fundamental values, tastes, demeanors, personality.

The only reason institutions and culture push equality and slam race as a factor in life is because our nations want to immigrate from non-white countries to expand their economies and power. Race just isn't good economics, this is why it is shunned.

I'm not saying let's bring back Nazism or something, I'm just an observer. And I observe we're being lied to because of economics. That's all. I don't know what the consequences will be.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338703 - 12/28/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I haven't seen any evidence from you either. :haha:




Yes you did, in the OP. You should know by now that it is impossible for you to get under my skin. Try harder.

:lol:




That's hardly evidence. That's just some guys opinion and we have no idea if he exists. 

And I've not been trying to get under your skin. On the contrary I've been trying to figure out why everyone seems to have gotten you all pissed off. :confused:

Seriously. I can't figure out your motivation here. :shrug:

I've seen a lifetime of evidence of racism in most humans. It's very difficult for me to believe you haven't also.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: circastes]
    #19338712 - 12/28/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think we define racism differently. Racism to me requires the element of superiority, rather than considering the strengths and weaknesses of a race.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338721 - 12/28/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Even atheism, agnosticism and theism?

I don't know if all of them are, but a good chunk of them are.




Even atheism, agnosticism, and theism are forms of idiocy.

The prefix "id" refers to a general state of someones mind, pertaining to conceptual or language based reality. You can see the prefix in "Idea, Ideology, Identity, Idiot, etc.

Idiot refers to an individual who's actions are being defined by their "id": Somebody that is acting according to their current opinion is literally an idiot.

Somebody that does not have opinions, rather perspectives that are dynamic and make relevant changes when new information is added, is not an idiot.

An idiot puts logic first, and data second. The term "usefull idiot" is a political term used for people who get used for their influence in political agendas.

Someone whom puts data first, and does not rely on logical assessment, but continuously works to improves logical assessments as new data comes in, is not an idiot.

Sometimes the word "idiot" and the word "stupid" are used interchangeably, however this is a misnomer. To be stupid is to allow your "id", that is to say your language based, conceptual perception of reality, with stupor.

Stupid - lacks clarity due to unfit mind, or lack of attention. The conceptual language based mind has stupor.

Idiot - Clarity is but narrow and myopic. attention is narrow and myopic, and stuck by inertia. Isms. The conceptual language based mind logically dominates the flow of new data.

Not a stupid idiot - Builds dytnamic language based concepts, dynamic logic, and dynamic theory upon the foundation of experience and data.

All "archetype"(state, characteristic, doctrine, attitude) isms are myopic in nature; Idiocy defined.

There are types of ism which are removed from idiocy. One is "medical" ism, like "rheumatism", and another is "action" ism, or when it is used in sense of action, not in the sense of ideology, however these words are dubious, as they often imply a state, setting, condition, archetype etc. . For instance, the word terrorism to describe a bombing, or the words pacifism to describe a resolution of conflict; both of these words are loaded with political assumptions that influence the perception of the event. Using ism's to describe processes, or as action words, is often dangerous, hype building, and hinders an honest perspective of reality. It is possible, with clear concise context to use action isms without idiocy, it is just dubious.


I kinda feel like a stupid idiot sometimes when I spend so much time writing posts, but it is good practice for organizing my thoughts, and crafting sentences.


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Re: Racist have Lower IQ/intelligence on average. [Re: teknix]
    #19338724 - 12/28/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's not just some guys opinion, they are doctors of psychology.

If what you say is true, then provide another doctors disagreement.


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