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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: GoldenEye]
    #18919926 - 10/02/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think that if you are trying to straighten out your life and find some peace you won't find it with drugs.  Drugs are for exploring new frontiers and experiencing new sensations.  Finding yourself?  I dunno...


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: GoldenEye]
    #18919934 - 10/02/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your psyche tries to balance itself

like everything in the universe

if you are sad, you look for happiness unconsciously
and you find that happiness within yourself, by being without thought

mushrooms can help you be without thought... and help you look into yourself to realize mistakes , correct them, and be happy (selfreflection)
keep doing what makes you happy
stop doing what makes you unhappy  , that happens automatically once you begin to reflect on the self, then you start to reflect on it in daily life too and remember what makes you happy

your real values in life that you might have forgotten...

I was very depressed/careless about myself before I did LSD/mushrooms, now I can never be depressed again, it has lasted up to 6-8 months at a time, that's as far as I usually go up to without dosing
made me quit daily weed/cig smoking, and eating pizzas daily

peace/love from inside ever since that day, but it took a very high dose to get there, and first happened after 100 trips (egodeath on lsd, 2 dalai lamas, is about 6 hofmanns)
has since happened on 4g mushrooms too, didn't expect that...

egodeath takes a very long time to process, maybe a lifetime, so don't trip as much anymore

but now I remember who I am, didn't before for over a decade... but I thought I did

but happiness everyday doesn't lie :-) before I was hardly ever happy

yes... they are definitely sacred, now I'm trying to spread that love to others as best as I can... because I realize I'm lucky to be happy most days, most people are not


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: GoldenEye]
    #18923278 - 10/02/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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GoldenEye said:
I think it is the intention that counts.

If taken with the intent to heal, every resulting trip (good/bad/in between) will be significant and interpreted from the intention of healing.

I had not taken mushrooms for three years and recently started taking them again as I lost my old, happy self and had become depressed.

One of the trips was utter madness and hell and showed me what it is like to be truly anxious, truly desperate, truly uncertain, etc. All the things that bothered me were taken to the absolute extreme.

It was in fact very healing as I could realise that I was in fact OK. Everything could be far, far worse. Yes, I was depressed, but it was not nearly as bad as the shroom experience showed me it could be. It instilled confidence. I could overcome this. I have taken the action needed to overcome the depression and largely hold the shrooms responsible for kick starting my recovery.

If your intentions are right, you will be served.

God/the Universe/Psychedelics work in mysterious ways.




These are good points. :whathesaid:

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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: TheSillyStudent]
    #18923376 - 10/02/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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TheSillyStudent said:
Hey everybody, this is my first post. For the past few months I have gotten interested with spiritual subjects as well as psychedelics. I have never done any psychedelics yet (unless MDMA counts). I have had a lot of really negative self-esteem for the last seven years of my life, partially stemming from a lot of social issues in early high school. I went through a break up last year which really affected me. I often have a really hard time motivating myself to do anything and have an insane amount of self criticism. I have heard that psilocybin can help with anxiety/depression but that it can also enhance it. I would like to figure out how to overcome my internal issues and am wondering whether a mushroom experience would help or actually hurt me. Ever since I went to EDC and took four points of molly and smoked a joint I've had a lot of really pessimistic views of the world and I can't decide if they're legitimate fears or paranoid delusions. What do y'all think? Would shrooms help or hurt?




If you are really suffering from debilitating depression and anxiety I first suggest you turn to key support nutrition.

I did not believe in anxiety/depression until I got it, and after going thru the dr for a while decided that living on ssri's and benzos was no way to live. 

I think anxiety and depression can be caused by situational shit , but when you go through emotional stress, your body uses more of certain things...so you can become depleted faster. 

Also, drinking alcohol often is known to cause a deficiency in B vitamins, and using seratonin affecting drugs can cause the same type of effects. Lot of the side effects from these issues can easily be alleviated by taking a b complex, potassium, iodine, and magnesium.

I sought out a homeopath witchdoctor lady who promptly got me on a b complex plus c, and a potassium iodine supplement (kelp pills after my symptoms eased).

This was three years ago and I still take the supplements, plus a few more, I am sold.  I didn't realize at the time what exactly our body needs to function normally, and if you get depleted of key minerals , shit can go haywire causing your body to produce or not produce the right level of hormones and enzymes and etc.

I was pretty scared to trip in the state of mind I was in with the depression and anxiety.  I knew taking the ssri's I would not be able to trip because of seratonin interference. Just be a waste. 

Vitamins saved my ass. Im no dr, check with yours before you embark on a bunch of vitamins or herbs, but take a look at your diet...are you really getting what you need every day?


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #18966176 - 10/11/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How do you know when it would be unsafe for you to try these substances?


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: TheSillyStudent]
    #18967188 - 10/12/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How do you know when it would be unsafe for you to try these substances?



If and when you're massively suicidal, you shouldn't mess with them. Otherwise you can always take a small test dose to judge for yourself, and take it from there.

You take a small dose and wait 2 hours. You'll be fine, you won't shatter from a small one. Again, assuming you're NOT suicidal and seriously messed up in the head. You'll get a mild trip or buzz, and know that no, your head has not exploded. Then you wait 1-2 weeks for the tolerance to go down, and then boy oh boy, your first ever actual proper shroooooooom trip, with space liquids and spiraling plasma membranes :biggrin:

The thing about mushrooms that most people don't understand before taking them, is that shrooooooms are full of oooooooooooooooooom :lol:

Oh and if depressed, please do some of this stuff as well, it does help. Don't expect the shrooms to fill your need for sunlight, sleep and exercise, you have to also put in some work yourself. Maybe your head is down and depressed a bit, the shrooms may help with that, but the body you will need to work yourself, for best results.


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: Spacerific]
    #18969548 - 10/12/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I occasionally find that when I smoke weed after the initial high wears off I start to feel a certain calmness and personal strength that I don't normally experience. I become outgoing and confident and see myself in a much more positive light. Eventually this feeling wears off though and I'm back to my normal self. Do mushrooms cause similar feelings but with effects in the long-term?


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: TheSillyStudent]
    #18971504 - 10/13/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you make the effort to change you will see effects in the long term.  Mushrooms show you the way, it's up to you to follow the path.


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: GoldenEye]
    #18972553 - 10/13/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

PrimalSoup said:
Quote:

GoldenEye said:
I think it is the intention that counts.

If taken with the intent to heal, every resulting trip (good/bad/in between) will be significant and interpreted from the intention of healing.

I had not taken mushrooms for three years and recently started taking them again as I lost my old, happy self and had become depressed.

One of the trips was utter madness and hell and showed me what it is like to be truly anxious, truly desperate, truly uncertain, etc. All the things that bothered me were taken to the absolute extreme.

It was in fact very healing as I could realise that I was in fact OK. Everything could be far, far worse. Yes, I was depressed, but it was not nearly as bad as the shroom experience showed me it could be. It instilled confidence. I could overcome this. I have taken the action needed to overcome the depression and largely hold the shrooms responsible for kick starting my recovery.

If your intentions are right, you will be served.

God/the Universe/Psychedelics work in mysterious ways.




These are good points. :whathesaid:

:peace:PS



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Quote:

GoldenEye said:
I think it is the intention that counts.

If taken with the intent to heal, every resulting trip (good/bad/in between) will be significant and interpreted from the intention of healing.

I had not taken mushrooms for three years and recently started taking them again as I lost my old, happy self and had become depressed.

One of the trips was utter madness and hell and showed me what it is like to be truly anxious, truly desperate, truly uncertain, etc. All the things that bothered me were taken to the absolute extreme.

It was in fact very healing as I could realise that I was in fact OK. Everything could be far, far worse. Yes, I was depressed, but it was not nearly as bad as the shroom experience showed me it could be. It instilled confidence. I could overcome this. I have taken the action needed to overcome the depression and largely hold the shrooms responsible for kick starting my recovery.

If your intentions are right, you will be served.

God/the Universe/Psychedelics work in mysterious ways.



Cant word it any better than this. :thumbup:


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #19337018 - 12/28/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so I'm planning on shrooming for the first time next week. I will be doing it with one of my best friends and one of our old religious teachers at his little house in the woods. I was wondering what everyone thought of not having a sober sitter (this is my friend and I's first time but our teacher is very experienced) and what kind of dosage to take. I basically want a really introspective healing experience without necessarily tripping out too much and hallucinating


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Re: Shrooms for healing [Re: TheSillyStudent]
    #19338659 - 12/28/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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and what kind of dosage to take. I basically want a really introspective healing experience without necessarily tripping out too much and hallucinating




IME you don't get the one without the other...  And what you want isn't the prime determination of what you get, although it doesn't hurt to focus on what you're looking to accomplish when you go into it.

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Does is give you insight on how to fix the problems, or just shows you them?




Mushrooms heal you if they can, plain and simple.  The methods are often mysterious, but they are definitely real and they definitely work.  It's not some bullshit "here's what you need to do" thing, it's straight to the heart of what needs to change.  Different people will interpret this differently, that's all. :shrug:

Don't expect too much from the first time.  With no experience to go on anything can happen, and you're MUCH better off starting at light dosages and gaining some experience before going in and facing the demons head on.  Plus you can never predict exactly what will happen, no matter what the set and setting - you just do the best you can and take advantage of what happens to get thrown your way.  They aren't a big pharma product with clear and limited avenues of action, they're a living spiritual power we're fortunate enough to have access to, for whatever reasons.

You're highly unlikely to get what you need from any one trip.  If you're lucky what you'll do is establish a lasting relationship, which over time and with some care can help you out.  :thumbup:

Best of luck,

:peace:PS


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