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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: mushboy]
    #24703111 - 10/11/17 08:43 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)



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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24703349 - 10/11/17 10:23 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

That's purdy.


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: MeltingNe0]
    #24703371 - 10/11/17 10:31 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)



a bit dry. gonna have to put some holes in those tubs for next time and stuff poly in them. I bet I can get a bitching pinset in those if I do. also this was four 4 oz jelly jar BRF cakes to 4 quarts Hpoo


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Ziran]
    #24703535 - 10/11/17 11:34 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)



i don't know if its luck if it fruits like this everytime.



this is some real multispore luck.

prints from 2003 revived and grown out. that is some pure luck or coincidence? ive revived some prints from 2000 and 2001 recently that im going to attempt to fruit.







here is the original grow from 2003. the substrate was contaminted. prints were taken. they were clean as a whistle. colonized plates as fast as fresh spores. 5 days full plate colonization!





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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: eatyualive] * 3
    #24703582 - 10/11/17 11:57 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Look at any picture I have posted.  It's all my MS "luck"

Or most any picture in here and the grow logs section, before this whole epidemic about spore syringes not being clean.

I am waiting on materials, then I will be doing another grow with all the recent "no nos" I have come across since I have been gone for a year.

MS
Open air inoc
TiT incubator

Amongst many other things.  I will also be documenting many TEK's that I either never had time for, or forgot to do so.

Agar was used for isolating, which is a very advanced technique.  Now a days I am seeing people recommending this to newbies, even doing simple BRF.

K.I.S.S.  These things grow themselves.  I have done my share of agar, cloning, isolating.  But every grow I have ever logged, or taken pictures of, was a straight MS grow, or MS > Grain > Grain LC.

People have used MS inoc for YEARRRRRRRRS.

Is agar a better solution?  Yes
G2G?  Yes

Required?  Hell no.

People want to recommend the *best* methods, but are still recommending a SAB over a flow hood.  PF tek over bulk.  Ect..

Sorry for possibly hijacking your thread, but this is non sense.  People need to stop recommending the best way possible, when there are thousands and thousands of alternatives.


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Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Citric]
    #24703593 - 10/12/17 12:04 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Citric]
    #24703594 - 10/12/17 12:04 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I personally would never recommend a sab over a flow hood....just a lot easier for a broke bastard to use a sab...I still want a flow hood so I can persue cultivating edibles...from what I hear trying to inoculate bags in a sab is a big no no..but I can still use some spawn plugs for now I guess


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Leftfield420] * 1
    #24703604 - 10/12/17 12:08 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Well said CITRIC!

spore syringes have been demonized. although i see people who ridicule them but sell them to unknowing newbies on stupid social media. shame on them.

its like 20 years worth of multispore syringes didn't happen without contamination. lol.

i still have syringes from 2007 sitting in the fridge that fruit and are clean as a whistle.


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Leftfield420] * 2
    #24703616 - 10/12/17 12:12 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Quote:

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I personally would never recommend a sab over a flow hood....just a lot easier for a broke bastard to use a sab...I still want a flow hood so I can persue cultivating edibles...from what I hear trying to inoculate bags in a sab is a big no no..but I can still use some spawn plugs for now I guess




I am not saying anyone is recommending a SAB over a flow hood.  I am stating I am hearing recommendations of using the *best* methods, yet I still hear SAB being recommended.

If the whole purpose of agar is to test a syringe or print, then test it on a half pint or pint of grain.  If all is well, G2G from there.

Don't start on agar to test, then wedge to a grain jar, then G2G.  You are simply adding an extra, unnecessary, time consuming step.  Inoc the grain jar, wait, then G2G.

I have been gone for over a year, so I don't know where all of this came from, and to be quite honest, so suddenly.

Feel free to look at most all of the moderators grows, most of the TEKs people follow, almost all of the grow logs.  90% of them are MS grows.  This is non sense and I plan to debunk all of this here shortly.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Citric]
    #24703621 - 10/12/17 12:14 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

:lolsy: that's fucking great....was just literally talking to eats about this:rofl:


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: eatyualive] * 2
    #24703629 - 10/12/17 12:16 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Quote:

eatyualive said:
Well said CITRIC!

spore syringes have been demonized. although i see people who ridicule them but sell them to unknowing newbies on stupid social media. shame on them.

its like 20 years worth of multispore syringes didn't happen without contamination. lol.

i still have syringes from 2007 sitting in the fridge that fruit and are clean as a whistle.




It's fkn crazy and ridiculous.  Agar is not for testing a syringe!  Sure, you can!  But you can also test it a thousand different ways.  Agars main purpose was for isolation.  Which none of these new growers need to ever read about, let alone experience.

Cubes grow themselves!  The hardest part here is to not sneeze as you inoculate your jars!

Want to test a syringe?  Get a few half pints, put a scoop or two of grain, and inoculate it.  From there, if all is well, you can then make a grain LC and inoculate all of your jars, which will speed colonization time ten fold.  Rather then inoculate agar, wedge to grain, then G2G.

Never in a million years did I really think I'd come back to this, let alone being suggested to new growers.

New growers were always suggested to buy a syringe from a local, TRUSTED vendor, and grow some BRF.

The thought of recommending a new grower to do bulk was absurd.  Yet now we want them to jump right into agar.  .... non sense


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: eatyualive]
    #24703630 - 10/12/17 12:16 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I like that citric, MS has been good to me, haven't had one contamination episode once from a syringe. Only done a handful of grows but still, it seems as if it's an unacceptable method for growing some good mushrooms. Which I don't fully understand, other than getting *clean cultures and what not. It would be nice to clone a certain mushroom, but MS works for me.


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Cybin_man] * 2
    #24703637 - 10/12/17 12:23 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

This whole idea of spore syringes being un clean demoralizes our fucking sponsors.  I seriously want to ban anyone even mentioning it.

Hey, your spore syringe is dirty because you made it?  Try harder.

Your spore syringe from a vendor is dirty?  Contact that sponsor, they stand by their product and will back it.

I have had ONE, I say it again ONE spore syringe bad, over 15+ years.

That's like telling someone I've been going to my favorite little corner store restaurant as a kid, getting quality chicken alfredo for my dollars worth.  Then after 15 years I get sick ONCE.  I sure as shit ain't going to start going to Olive Garden every time I want some noddles and chicken.  Shit happens.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Citric]
    #24703650 - 10/12/17 12:31 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I will say, In my tale of 13 cakes thread, that syringe is one I made in an SAB and i only had 2 jars go south. 11 out of 13 is pretty good imo.


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Citric]
    #24703653 - 10/12/17 12:32 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)


Wild gymnopilus luteoviridis ms syringe


Psilicybe cyan ms syringe


Psilicybe baeocystis me syringe


Pan cyan ms syringe



Gymnopilus ms


Psilicybe semilanceata me



Pan fimicola ms



Psilicybe cubensis ms


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Ziran]
    #24703659 - 10/12/17 12:34 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Quote:

Ziran said:
I will say, In my tale of 13 cakes thread, that syringe is one I made in an SAB and i only had 2 jars go south. 11 out of 13 is pretty good imo.




And that ratio right there(No offense coming up) tells me it was not your syringe.  It was your inoculation technique.  If it was the syringe, you'd be batting over .500 contam ratio easily.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: cronicr]
    #24703668 - 10/12/17 12:37 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Not to mention the amount of times I swipe spores  I rarely see contams anyway.
People have been putting spores to grains successfully for decades...sure you might spot a contams or two just inoculate against the glass ..watch for molds and g2g the healthy ones:shrug:


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: cronicr]
    #24703702 - 10/12/17 12:58 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I just want to know why, and when, this whole thing started.  Also, by who.  Because they along with anyone else who suggest this, is beyond wrong.  Our sponsors are very viable.  I will reach out to every sponsor that sells a ms syringe, get one from each, and have a very successful grow with each.  Using ms injection.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: Citric]
    #24703744 - 10/12/17 01:36 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

I read Mckenna's book and he recommends agar. I started with agar and have to say Im pretty happy. I just like knowing my inoculate is clean.


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Re: Post your MS Luck ! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #24703759 - 10/12/17 01:57 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Agar isn't an advanced technique at all. Pretty simple actually. I guess it's not a requirement but who wants to be
spending money on syringes all the time or making them for that matter? Put one drop on agar and away you go to a
as many grows as you want:shrug:

I guess I see your point though


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