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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: demiu5] * 1
    #19334937 - 12/27/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lynnch said:
If I found out my bro was regularly paying for sex to fill a void of human contact and intimacy I would tell him he has a problem.




You think paying for sex is a thing happy healthy well-adjusted people do on the regular?

It's not even the paying for sex that is wrong. It's the pretending that sex and human relation as a commodity is anything approaching the experience of actual intimacy.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19334947 - 12/27/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lynnch said:
It's not even the paying for sex that is wrong. It's the pretending that sex and human relation as a commodity is anything approaching the experience of actual intimacy.




Yes, I agree with this. You are commodifying an experience that is supposed to be intimate and expressive of deep bonding and true feelings. You as a buyer might feel that way about the woman you are buying, but the woman you are buying is a professional, and definitely does not feel the same way about you.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #19335053 - 12/28/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lynnch said:
You think paying for sex is a thing happy healthy well-adjusted people do on the regular?




What makes you the expert being happy and well adjusted. Let me guess, everyone who shares your core values is happy and well adjusted and everyone who has different values and beliefs is an unhappy deviant? How original :rolleyes:

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Because it's a shame that anyone is that misled and confused.
Because it's right in the OP, everyone deserves some intimacy. And in that same thread, everyone deserves the experience of yada yada hippie idealism




No one is entitled to anything in life. You get what you get because you're lucky and you can only try your best on top of that. Something like 15% of the world's population are never even given the opportunity of learn to read and plenty more cant find adequete food and shelter for their families but we know that OP is entitled to true love, right?

The OP's post made him come across as awkward, self absorbed and self pitying. I wouldn't want to be intimate with someone like that and apparently neither does anyone else. Why exactly does the OP deserve intimacy? is simply being alive enough? what did he do to earn it? If anything his post is more of an indication as to why he does not deserve intimacy.

If OP is willing to fork out money for a whore than he'll get exactly what he deserves: string free secks with a professional.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Dawks]
    #19335141 - 12/28/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dawks said:
If OP is willing to fork out money for a whore than he'll get exactly what he deserves: string free secks with a professional.




That's not what he's looking for though...

edit: Nvm I just got the message you were conveying.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Dawks]
    #19335310 - 12/28/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dawks said:
No one is entitled to anything in life. You get what you get because you're lucky and you can only try your best on top of that. Something like 15% of the world's population are never even given the opportunity of learn to read and plenty more cant find adequete food and shelter for their families but we know that OP is entitled to true love, right?

The OP's post made him come across as awkward, self absorbed and self pitying. I wouldn't want to be intimate with someone like that and apparently neither does anyone else. Why exactly does the OP deserve intimacy? is simply being alive enough? what did he do to earn it? If anything his post is more of an indication as to why he does not deserve intimacy.

If OP is willing to fork out money for a whore than he'll get exactly what he deserves: string free secks with a professional.



Jesus, have some sympathy for others for fuck sake. This comes across as way more self centered and self absorbed than OP's post did. This is like saying "I have no sympathy for the fact that you got cancer because no one is entitled to a healthy life."

You're just using the word "entitlement" as an excuse for not giving a fuck about other people. The whole idea that OP "doesn't deserve intimacy" is amazingly self centered. You think you "deserve" intimacy? Who decides who "deserves" what? There isn't some universal standard about who "deserves" what. It's just an arbitrary judgment call on your part. Thinking that anyone "deserves" a shit life is almost sociopathic.

Stop making excuses for not giving a fuck about other people.

You feel entitled to things that you feel like you earned, but the idea that certain actions earned you an entitlement this or that is just an arbitrary judgment call on your part. You're even more entitled than OP.


Edited by nooneman (12/28/13 01:45 AM)


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Dawks]
    #19335322 - 12/28/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dawks said:
What makes you the expert being happy and well adjusted. Let me guess, everyone who shares your core values is happy and well adjusted and everyone who has different values and beliefs is an unhappy deviant? How original :rolleyes:



You make a nice argument when you put words in my mouth bud :rolleyes: Did I say anyone who pays for sex is an unhappy deviant? No.
But again, in your opinion, do happy healthy well-adjusted people go out and buy hookers instead of working at real relationships? Most people would say no.
This would be a completely different thread if OP came in here saying "Hey I'm bored of the dating scene and just want to have carefree sex with a pro, what do you guys think?"

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Lynnch said:
Because it's a shame that anyone is that misled and confused.
Because it's right in the OP, everyone deserves some intimacy. And in that same thread, everyone deserves the experience of yada yada hippie idealism



No one is entitled to anything in life. You get what you get because you're lucky and you can only try your best on top of that. blah blah blah negative insulting douchebaggery...




Ooh Entitlement, there's a loaded word. Again, not what I said. Being entitled is not the same as being deserving.

Love, Intimacy, and sex is obviously a big part of what it is to be human. None  of us would be here if it weren't for that. Its such a core part of our existence, such a driving force behind much of what we do, that yes we all deserve to experience it.
A little Love is just about the only thing we all unconditionally deserve. That's the whole point. OP thinks the only way he'll deserve it is to go out and pay money for it. That's not true.
It's not a question of deserving it or not, it's of where and how to go to find it.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19335437 - 12/28/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

that guy is right though... awkward, self absorbed, and self pitying describes me perfectly. And like he said, why would anyone want to be intimate with someone like that? Personally, I wouldn't. I've been with a girl like that before. She's the only girl i've had sex with without paying for it, and I got so turned off by her attitude and depression and anxiety and obsession over me.... yet all those traits? That's like... almost a mirror image of mine.

So fucking sad. But anyway we are getting off topic. I am surprised to hear that you guys wouldn't look down on your friend if you found out he visits hookers? What if they aren't escorts, but streetwalkers? Would you look down on him then?


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19336179 - 12/28/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lynnch said:
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Lynnch said:
If I found out my bro was regularly paying for sex to fill a void of human contact and intimacy I would tell him he has a problem.




You think paying for sex is a thing happy healthy well-adjusted people do on the regular?

It's not even the paying for sex that is wrong. It's the pretending that sex and human relation as a commodity is anything approaching the experience of actual intimacy.





you're making the assumption that that is their train of thought/emotion.  you do realize there are [rare?] people who don't want/need connection?  they can discern the lines of emotional connection and purely physical pleasure



if you are not able to do so, then fine, but don't tell me it's ["it"=your opinion] the only way things are.


how many people in 'loving, emotional/physical relationships' are really all that happy and healthy?  and if they are, why is the rate of people "cheating" on others so high?  did you ever think there are other kinds of "voids", as you say, to be fulfilled?


Edited by demiu5 (12/28/13 09:26 AM)


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: demiu5]
    #19336832 - 12/28/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Jesus. OP Said:
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Should i be feeling ashamed about this? Everyone needs and deserves intimacy, right? Maybe i shouldn't feel bad?



I'm not assuming anything; "pretending that sex and human relation as a commodity is anything approaching the experience of actual intimacy" has nothing to do with "people who don't want or need connection." Quit going off topic just so you can try to start an argument.


OP dude, it's good that you can recognize your own flaws, but beating yourself up over them and telling yourself you're undeserving of love does nothing to help you. You should be building yourself up out of the hole, not digging it deeper. What are your good traits?
I would be really worried about any friend who was regularly picking up streetwalkers, that to me, would be an indication of sexual disfunction/problems relating to people. I'd also think he was an idiot for paying for a nasty version of something he could get for free.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: demiu5]
    #19337191 - 12/28/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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demiu5 said:
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Lynnch said:
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Lynnch said:
If I found out my bro was regularly paying for sex to fill a void of human contact and intimacy I would tell him he has a problem.




You think paying for sex is a thing happy healthy well-adjusted people do on the regular?

It's not even the paying for sex that is wrong. It's the pretending that sex and human relation as a commodity is anything approaching the experience of actual intimacy.





you're making the assumption that that is their train of thought/emotion.  you do realize there are [rare?] people who don't want/need connection?  they can discern the lines of emotional connection and purely physical pleasure?





OP IS CLEARLY NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, THOUGH.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19337254 - 12/28/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, it would probably be healthier to separate prostitutes and emotions


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #19338117 - 12/28/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Whats there to feel ashamed about? One adult wants sexual contact and is willing to pay, another adult wants money and is okay with offering sexual contact. Who the fuck has the right to get in between that and say its 'wrong' and 'illegal'. Stupid as fuck and fuck anyone who thinks its okay to push their bullshit 'morality' on to other people when it has NOTHING to do with them.

Having prostitution illegal only serves to create way more societal harm than having it legal.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19338212 - 12/28/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Many men with a GF or wife visit prostitutes on a regular basis, sometimes they don't get sex at home, so they pay for it.

To the OP, if only "losers" visited prostitutes, then why are highly successful men willing to pay top dollar ($5000-$10,000 per night) for high end escorts?

Just hire a whore and enjoy yourself, stop over thinking the whole thing.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: qman]
    #19339191 - 12/28/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:
Many men with a GF or wife visit prostitutes on a regular basis, sometimes they don't get sex at home, so they pay for it.

To the OP, if only "losers" visited prostitutes, then why are highly successful men willing to pay top dollar ($5000-$10,000 per night) for high end escorts?

Just hire a whore and enjoy yourself, stop over thinking the whole thing.



:whathesaid:


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: AD420]
    #19341013 - 12/29/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dont do it OP. Not worth risking the STD. If i were u just suck it up and do the hard thing: talk to people>make friends>network>have casual social experiences with women>date

Once youre in it its not that difficult. Once u hook up with a girl its a rewarding feeling. Once u bang a hooker u feel dirty and used. Hooker sex also sucks cause its completely void of passion. Its just a shitty experience u should spare your mind and body the hassle of. Be a human, be awkward like the rest of humans who wanna get laid and put yourself out there.

Start hitting the gym too


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19346846 - 12/30/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Whats there to feel ashamed about? One adult wants sexual contact and is willing to pay, another adult wants money and is okay with offering sexual contact. Who the fuck has the right to get in between that and say its 'wrong' and 'illegal'. Stupid as fuck and fuck anyone who thinks its okay to push their bullshit 'morality' on to other people when it has NOTHING to do with them.

Having prostitution illegal only serves to create way more societal harm than having it legal.




Just to make things clear, this thread is NOT about shaming anybody who is visiting prostitutes or whatever. I mean, it is to an extent, but this thread runs much deeper than that. Read back to the first post where OP is talking about desiring intimacy and deep relationships.


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19356002 - 01/01/14 07:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The thing that puts me off paying for sex apart from not being able to afford it, is that making a woman cum is my favorite part of sex, so I'd be paying to make a woman cum...


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19357757 - 01/02/14 09:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

its really not a big deal. just remember

ur paying them to leave after, not for sex

ive personally never banged a hooker but if i had some blow and a hooker i def would, like a hot hooker, more like an escort. not some meth addicted whore on the side of the road with no teeth lol. talkin high class escorts here lol

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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: usulpsychonaut] * 1
    #19357805 - 01/02/14 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The thing that puts me off paying for sex apart from not being able to afford it, is that making a woman cum is my favorite part of sex, so I'd be paying to make a woman cum...




What makes you think you could make a whore cum?  :lol:


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Re: is it ok to visit prostitutes? [Re: qman] * 1
    #19361658 - 01/03/14 01:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:
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usulpsychonaut said:
The thing that puts me off paying for sex apart from not being able to afford it, is that making a woman cum is my favorite part of sex, so I'd be paying to make a woman cum...




What makes you think you could make a whore cum?  :lol:




What makes you think you couldn't? I've known escorts, and a lot of them were regular women with ordinary jobs (escorting was just a side thing for them). I'm sure they like to, and can cum as much as any other woman.


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