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Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl)
    #19337723 - 12/28/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So long story short.

13yrs old oxycodone w/tylenol and hydrocodone
14 yrs old oxycodone 30mg and oxycontin 80mg
17yrs old oxys with needle
18yrs old heroin
20yrs old dead (and then alive again)
22yrs old fresh out of rehab and honest doctor prescribes suboxone.
23yrs old (now) tapered down to 2mg daily and 9 days ago jumped off

The withdrawls have been excruciating. Did some research on kava kava as I have always been interested in it so I went out and found NOTHING at CVS, NOTHING at GNC, so I went to The grocery store and found this yogi kava tea (I'm sure its shitty, but whatever). I've done a lot of research on kava so I added some 2% milk and cold water in a cleaned out powerade bottle (filled it half way) and put 6 tea bags in and I'm just going to keep shaking it until I leave work. Each bag has 78mg's of Kava Root Extract in it. This six bags will do me good? I just want to feel alive tonight and be able to sleep more than two hours a night. An added bonus would be some euphoria if that is even possible with these crappy tea bags. Thanks guys. Wish I could get some pure root NOW!


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19337740 - 12/28/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bless you and much love...


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19337745 - 12/28/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Have you ever tried kratom? :kratom:


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Synthe]
    #19337755 - 12/28/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I came here to recommend Kratom as well. Seems to do the trick for a lot of people. :smile:
I find Kava to be more like alcohol, and kind of weak.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Synthe]
    #19337765 - 12/28/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I recommend only using pure kava kava root powder, the yogi tea packages are the worst possible way of ingestion.
They won't be potent at all... In fact, you don't even want to use heat when making kava tea.
Order online or go to an herb shop.
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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Synthe]
    #19337769 - 12/28/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bless you and much love...




Thanks so much for the love and support. It means so much to me. Even through these horrible withdrawls I haven't seriously thought about going back once.

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Have you ever tried kratom? :kratom:




I have heard of it and would like to try it. Any idea where I can get it? As for tonight, I'm going to have to go with the kava because by the time I get out of work all the stores will be closed.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19337780 - 12/28/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Have you ever tried kratom? :kratom:




I have heard of it and would like to try it. Any idea where I can get it? As for tonight, I'm going to have to go with the kava because by the time I get out of work all the stores will be closed.




Yes there's a lot of website selling it if you just google "buy kratom", but I believe one of the shroomery sponsors sells kratom too. I don't remember which one but I think they're not in the US although they link to US resellers of their own product.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19337784 - 12/28/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I recommend only using pure kava kava root powder, the yogi tea packages are the worst possible way of ingestion.
They won't be potent at all... In fact, you don't even want to use heat when making kava tea.
Order online or go to an herb shop.
I get a pound for $26.




I do plan on buying the real thing, but for tonight this will have to do. I am soaking 6 tea bags in cold water and cold 2% milk. Think I should add more bags? I bought three boxes lulz. I do understand that the effects will be no where near what real kava root would give me, but considering I'm completely clean (COMPLETELY, not even buds) I would think that I will be a little more sensitive to it.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Synthe]
    #19337788 - 12/28/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Synthe said:
Have you ever tried kratom? :kratom:




I have heard of it and would like to try it. Any idea where I can get it? As for tonight, I'm going to have to go with the kava because by the time I get out of work all the stores will be closed.




Yes there's a lot of website selling it if you just google "buy kratom", but I believe one of the shroomery sponsors sells kratom too. I don't remember which one but I think they're not in the US although they link to US resellers of their own product.





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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19337812 - 12/28/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: FungiJB] * 1
    #19337822 - 12/28/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: FungiJB]
    #19337826 - 12/28/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bless you.

http://www.avalonmagicplants.com/kratom




Thank you & thank you :-)

This site is safe to use my credit card on? Also, which kind do you recommend from there?


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19337844 - 12/28/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Kratom affects the same receptors as opiods so this could aid in some relief to withdraws. Funny how sub-docs dont talk about this, most are paid off by the pharmy co. making the suboxen. Keep positive you got over the biggest mountain in your life, it only gets better from here on.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: sololas]
    #19337885 - 12/28/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kratom affects the same receptors as opiods so this could aid in some relief to withdraws. Funny how sub-docs dont talk about this, most are paid off by the pharmy co. making the suboxen. Keep positive you got over the biggest mountain in your life, it only gets better from here on.




Thanks! As horrible as I feel, I am very satisfied with myself :-)

My doctor really was a good guy. Much better than my previous suboxone doctors. My last doctor put me on 32mg a day and new SHIT about Suboxone. I always had to correct him so he could learn.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: sololas]
    #19337971 - 12/28/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kratom affects the same receptors as opiods so this could aid in some relief to withdraws. Funny how sub-docs dont talk about this, most are paid off by the pharmy co. making the suboxen. Keep positive you got over the biggest mountain in your life, it only gets better from here on.




Sub docs are shady as shit, but if you are trying to stay clean you might wanna steer clear of kratom.

Also be very wary of alcohol.  I found that after I got through the w/d I had a taste for alcohol again after not tolerating it well for so long.

2mg is a pretty high dose to come off, then again below that is usually where I start feeling a little sick for part of the day so it kinda makes sense.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19337984 - 12/28/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kratom affects the same receptors as opiods so this could aid in some relief to withdraws. Funny how sub-docs dont talk about this, most are paid off by the pharmy co. making the suboxen. Keep positive you got over the biggest mountain in your life, it only gets better from here on.




Sub docs are shady as shit, but if you are trying to stay clean you might wanna steer clear of kratom.

Also be very wary of alcohol.  I found that after I got through the w/d I had a taste for alcohol again after not tolerating it well for so long.

2mg is a pretty high dose to come off, then again below that is usually where I start feeling a little sick for part of the day so it kinda makes sense.




Thanks for that! I wasn't too sure about it. I don't know if it's a good idea to reactivate my opioid receptors and swap one addiction for another.

SO back on topic. (If anyone wants to continue talking about kratom feel free)

I have 6 tea bags in 7 fluid ounces of cold water and 2 fluid ounces of cold 2% milk.

Think I should add more tea bags of this shitty yogi kava tea for more of an effect?

They are 78mg each so I have 468mg of kava root extract in this drink at the moment.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19338007 - 12/28/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I usually drink 3 tea bags every hour or so to keep a small buzz going. YMMV. I'd say your 6 bag mix is a good place to start. if that doesn't do the trick, try ten. :shrug:


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: MrHill]
    #19338032 - 12/28/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I usually drink 3 tea bags every hour or so to keep a small buzz going. YMMV. I'd say your 6 bag mix is a good place to start. if that doesn't do the trick, try ten. :shrug:




Haha that's what I was thinking :cool:

I'm guessing you mean try my six and then if that doesn't work take four more?

It's been soaking in my cold water and milk mixture for two hours now :smile: I'm very excited to get out of work and try it. I'm tempted to drink it now, but that wouldn't be a good idea just in case it REALLY works. Plus all the tea bags broke during the two hours of shaking so I have to strain it out before hand. I'll make another four (six?) tea bag cold mixture now just in case this doesn't work.
How long do I wait for it to kick in?


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: sololas]
    #19338083 - 12/28/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You spent alot of your early life on opiods and others im sure but the opiods are the one that really make people slaves and first taste comes right from your families med cabinet, which create addictive tendencies for life. You might want to stay away but if you do always use as littla as possible. Seems alot of sub docs like to write adderall which to me is just a terrible way to treat an addict, next thing they become meth users. Hope thats not a road you have been down.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19338084 - 12/28/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would not overdo it if you are inexperienced, start small and work your way up.  I know you want to feel better but the first 2-3 weeks just suck no matter what.  Kava might take one of the edges off, and might help you sleep, but I doubt it will make you feel good. 

You want to be careful because taking things that make you tired in w/d can be hellish if its not strong enough to put you under.  You will be totally exhausted but still awake clucking and all.

Soon you will start feeling human some of the time, like little glimpses of serenity, then those times will be more and more until you get back to normal life.  Then the next challenge begins which is staying clean.  I fucked that bit up and now I have to kick a 2nd time.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19338089 - 12/28/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Remember with kava not to brew it in hot water.


also kratom is better for opiate withdrawal.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19338091 - 12/28/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'd try Kratom to help alleviate withdrawals not kava kava. I'm on Suboxone maintance, currently at 5 MG per day. I'm thinking about using Kratom to jump off completely, once I get down to 1 or 2 mg a day


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19338102 - 12/28/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Kava has a good reputation, but don't waste your money on some commercial brand of tea bag herbs. Buy the following kava kava extract. This company is run by a youn herbalist who seems to know his stuff. Found out about him from his YouTube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/herbgardner00

Kava kava: https://hyperionherbs.com/shop/kava-extract-4-oz/


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: s240779]
    #19338122 - 12/28/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

check out a health food store.  Most of the good health food stores have powdered kava kava root!  If its a good shop, it should be pretty potent as well and should only cost around 8 bucks for 2 oz.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19338123 - 12/28/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would not overdo it if you are inexperienced, start small and work your way up.  I know you want to feel better but the first 2-3 weeks just suck no matter what.  Kava might take one of the edges off, and might help you sleep, but I doubt it will make you feel good. 

You want to be careful because taking things that make you tired in w/d can be hellish if its not strong enough to put you under.  You will be totally exhausted but still awake clucking and all.

Soon you will start feeling human some of the time, like little glimpses of serenity, then those times will be more and more until you get back to normal life.  Then the next challenge begins which is staying clean.  I fucked that bit up and now I have to kick a 2nd time.




Yeah I hear ya. I'm in hell, but at the same time I get these moments of pure euphoria. This euphoria is different, but in a way better than doing opiates. It's a feeling of accomplishment. Just finished my first semester of college with all A's, been holding a steady job where everyone loves (TRUSTS) me. I've done so much stupid shit and I am always able to think about that stupid shit when I remember the feeling of pushing that plunger. I have taught myself to associate the rush of dope through my blood stream with a life that is absolute hell where I can't take a piss without my GF thinking (KNOWING) that I'm in there trying to hit a vein. I've lost so many friends I'm sick of it all.
Just be steady and slow with your actions. Always remember those that you have hurt and that most of that trust can be earned back with time.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19338126 - 12/28/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Kratom affects the same receptors as opiods so this could aid in some relief to withdraws. Funny how sub-docs dont talk about this, most are paid off by the pharmy co. making the suboxen. Keep positive you got over the biggest mountain in your life, it only gets better from here on.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: tripp23]
    #19338127 - 12/28/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah i get almost all of my supplements as this mom n pop herbal shop,
such nice people, and they are just as cheap, and high quality as online.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Legend]
    #19338135 - 12/28/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Can anybody say if kava helps you focus on a task, at all? I would imagine it does, since it's a 'relaxant' and might make you less impatient when you have to do something.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: s240779]
    #19338147 - 12/28/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Kava does give me sense of focus i suppose. mostly just anxiety relief, and
sleepiness. It's relaxant properties come from it's affinity for the CB2, and
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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Legend]
    #19338154 - 12/28/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So it could help you get something done that you otherwise wouldn't wnat to get done like sorting your bookmarks?


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: s240779]
    #19338483 - 12/28/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alright guys I just got home and I'm relaxing in bed and about to start drinking the 468mg of kava kava. The time is 9:42pm and I will keep updating to let you guys know how my cold water, 2% milk, and yogi kava mixture works out. I'm already very "tired", but I probably couldn't fall asleep if I tried.

Stay tuned!

BTW I already am really liking this forum. Seems like a lot of great people reside here. I think I'll stay.

EDIT: 9:50pm my tongue is tingling a little bit when I take sips. Good sign?

EDIT2: 10:01pm Decided to chug the rest. Think I'm going to listen to the Doors Riders on the Storm & Strange Days while closing my eyes and relaxing.

EDIT3: 10:06pm Stomach is starting to turn, but it isn't necessarily bad. Almost a slight euphoria involved with it, but I feel like I have to take a shit at the same time. BTW I drank this on an empty stomach. Eyes are a little heavier also. Could all be placebo. Will update again if I feel anything else.

EDIT4: 10:12pm Feeling euphorically happy listening to Blue Sunday off of the album Backstage & Dangerous. Thinking about playing my new 12-string, but don't want to get up. Still not sure if this is placebo or not.

EDIT5: Just consumed another 5 tea bags. Pretty damn tired at this point. I feel like I could actually sleep, but I think I'll stay up and see what happens with these 5 extra tea bags. Now at a total of 858mg of kava root extract.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: s240779]
    #19338660 - 12/28/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So it could help you get something done that you otherwise wouldn't wnat to get done like sorting your bookmarks?




Haha yes I hear it's good for that sort of thing!


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19338747 - 12/28/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19338753 - 12/28/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Think I'm going to make a 4 tea bag cup... if I can get up...


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19339000 - 12/28/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alright guys I'm EXTREMELY tired which is good, but I didn't get much euphoria. I will order the real stuffs tomorrow! Still happy with the outcome because I feel like I can actually sleep.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19339076 - 12/28/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would not overdo it if you are inexperienced, start small and work your way up.  I know you want to feel better but the first 2-3 weeks just suck no matter what.  Kava might take one of the edges off, and might help you sleep, but I doubt it will make you feel good. 

You want to be careful because taking things that make you tired in w/d can be hellish if its not strong enough to put you under.  You will be totally exhausted but still awake clucking and all.

Soon you will start feeling human some of the time, like little glimpses of serenity, then those times will be more and more until you get back to normal life.  Then the next challenge begins which is staying clean.  I fucked that bit up and now I have to kick a 2nd time.




Yeah I hear ya. I'm in hell, but at the same time I get these moments of pure euphoria. This euphoria is different, but in a way better than doing opiates. It's a feeling of accomplishment. Just finished my first semester of college with all A's, been holding a steady job where everyone loves (TRUSTS) me. I've done so much stupid shit and I am always able to think about that stupid shit when I remember the feeling of pushing that plunger. I have taught myself to associate the rush of dope through my blood stream with a life that is absolute hell where I can't take a piss without my GF thinking (KNOWING) that I'm in there trying to hit a vein. I've lost so many friends I'm sick of it all.
Just be steady and slow with your actions. Always remember those that you have hurt and that most of that trust can be earned back with time.




Im extremely proud and happy for you, even though I have no idea who you are, or where your from. I know probably 1,000 people that are in their little dope shit circle life style. Keep it up and dont look back. I wish everybody I know on the stuff had your mind set.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: FungiJB]
    #19340275 - 12/29/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would not overdo it if you are inexperienced, start small and work your way up.  I know you want to feel better but the first 2-3 weeks just suck no matter what.  Kava might take one of the edges off, and might help you sleep, but I doubt it will make you feel good. 

You want to be careful because taking things that make you tired in w/d can be hellish if its not strong enough to put you under.  You will be totally exhausted but still awake clucking and all.

Soon you will start feeling human some of the time, like little glimpses of serenity, then those times will be more and more until you get back to normal life.  Then the next challenge begins which is staying clean.  I fucked that bit up and now I have to kick a 2nd time.




Yeah I hear ya. I'm in hell, but at the same time I get these moments of pure euphoria. This euphoria is different, but in a way better than doing opiates. It's a feeling of accomplishment. Just finished my first semester of college with all A's, been holding a steady job where everyone loves (TRUSTS) me. I've done so much stupid shit and I am always able to think about that stupid shit when I remember the feeling of pushing that plunger. I have taught myself to associate the rush of dope through my blood stream with a life that is absolute hell where I can't take a piss without my GF thinking (KNOWING) that I'm in there trying to hit a vein. I've lost so many friends I'm sick of it all.
Just be steady and slow with your actions. Always remember those that you have hurt and that most of that trust can be earned back with time.




Im extremely proud and happy for you, even though I have no idea who you are, or where your from. I know probably 1,000 people that are in their little dope shit circle life style. Keep it up and dont look back. I wish everybody I know on the stuff had your mind set.




Thanks! It is near to have that mindset while on the stuff, but that is what suboxone did for me. Helped me get my life and mind straightened out before throwing me in the real world unequipped again. As my doctor and the people in AA say, "it works if you work it." That's the truth about subs. You can't just take subs and be better. There is no magical cure there, but if you work hard and DON'T HANG AROUND THE SAME PEOPLE its possible to get better.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19340657 - 12/29/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have lost some old friends to opiates ODs , and suicides. You sound like your doing very well with your feelinngs and not giving in to temtation. You got straight As, a girlfriend who stayed with you in a time most would run, be sure and tell her how much it means to you to have someone there to share this time with, if she wasnt there the Devil would be sitting on your shoulder whispering sweet nothings into your veins. Just tell her how much it means to have her there, everday. When you get the real kava kava extract tincture, you'll feel the difference your mouth becomes a little numb like the stuff the dentist puts on your gums before he sticks ya. I got the opportunity to be in a Kava ceremony while in Tonga, a nice experiance except the taste was like old dish water at first, followed with numbing, then a sort of drunk relaxing feeling throughout the evening. Definately get the Kava kava tincture from  healthfood store, much stronger...


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: sololas]
    #19343367 - 12/29/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I have lost some old friends to opiates ODs , and suicides. You sound like your doing very well with your feelinngs and not giving in to temtation. You got straight As, a girlfriend who stayed with you in a time most would run, be sure and tell her how much it means to you to have someone there to share this time with, if she wasnt there the Devil would be sitting on your shoulder whispering sweet nothings into your veins. Just tell her how much it means to have her there, everday. When you get the real kava kava extract tincture, you'll feel the difference your mouth becomes a little numb like the stuff the dentist puts on your gums before he sticks ya. I got the opportunity to be in a Kava ceremony while in Tonga, a nice experiance except the taste was like old dish water at first, followed with numbing, then a sort of drunk relaxing feeling throughout the evening. Definately get the Kava kava tincture from  healthfood store, much stronger...




I really am lucky. I'm 23 and have been with her for 3 1/2 years. Been through some crazy times together and because of my dumb ass I turned this cute and sweet girl on to smoking crack and taking benzos. Now we have both kicked all drug habits, except she still smokes tree, but that is fine with me. She really means the world to me.

ANYWAYS!!

I woke up feeling like complete shit this morning at 6am. So that is about 6 hours of sleep after drinking 12 tea bags of kava. Still more sleep than I have been getting and I did have some nice vivid dreams. I ended up going to a head shop with my girl today because she wanted a new pipe and I happened to notice some kratom hanging up on the wall. Now I KNOW that this stuff is most likely the worst quality kratom ever created, but my WD's were so bad I just said FUCK IT and bought a bag of... get ready to laugh... Kaboom Kratom Bali. Names like that is going to get this shit banned. Anyways, I took 6 capsules (500mg each) and emptied them out and toss n washed them with some orange juice (the powder in the capsules was green and earthy and had some small stems mixed in). After about 10 minutes I felt a tingling in my neck (similar to right before an opiate kicks it) and then some slight (VERY SLIGHT) euphoria and relief. After an hour I took 4 more capsules and still didn't feel any euphoria, but my WD's were gone! Amazing. I was still exhausted all day, but it was nice being relieved of that hell. So just now I went onto http://www.mmmspeciosa.com and ordered 25g of Plantation Maeng Da and 50g of Bali and paid $12 bucks for 1-2 day shipping and had it sent to my work since that is where I will be on those days (I work at a hotel as a houseman constantly running around and my job is damn near impossible with the lack of energy I've been having).

I'll just have to be careful with this stuff and make sure to taper as the batch grows closer to it's end and make sure I take a day or two break every now and then since I AM a recovering opiate addict.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19343484 - 12/29/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm on board with everybody telling you to look into Kratom

The Vietnam strain put me in euphoria for hours

I am a fan of those yogi kava kava tea bags but you have to use a few to really feel it. 6 is way more than I've ever done!


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: plektheplek]
    #19343516 - 12/29/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm on board with everybody telling you to look into Kratom

The Vietnam strain put me in euphoria for hours

I am a fan of those yogi kava kava tea bags but you have to use a few to really feel it. 6 is way more than I've ever done!





Haha well check out my last post those 6 tea bags turned into 12 by the end of the night lulz.

And I did try Kratom today and it helped SO MUCH. Read my post to hear about it. Thanks for the reply :thumbup:


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19343530 - 12/29/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm on board with everybody telling you to look into Kratom

The Vietnam strain put me in euphoria for hours

I am a fan of those yogi kava kava tea bags but you have to use a few to really feel it. 6 is way more than I've ever done!




And I did try Kratom today and it helped SO MUCH




I knew it would :cool:  :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: plektheplek]
    #19343553 - 12/29/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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plektheplek said:
I'm on board with everybody telling you to look into Kratom

The Vietnam strain put me in euphoria for hours

I am a fan of those yogi kava kava tea bags but you have to use a few to really feel it. 6 is way more than I've ever done!




And I did try Kratom today and it helped SO MUCH




I knew it would :cool:  :thumbup::thumbup:




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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19343702 - 12/29/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

just remember it's 10x cheaper to buy it online


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: Legend]
    #19343780 - 12/29/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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just remember it's 10x cheaper to buy it online




Yea I just needed something on the spot since I felt so shitty and since I no longer spend money on dope, cigs, or alcohol $20 wasn't too steep. Just a couple minutes ago I went onto http://www.mmmspeciosa.com and ordered 25g of Plantation Maeng Da and 50g of Bali and paid $12 bucks for 1-2 day shipping and had it sent to my work since that is where I will be when it is delivered.

I'm going to toss n wash the last 20 capsules of this crap headshop kratom tomorrow morning. They are 500mg each. I took ten today might as well finish the rest tomorrow.


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Re: Yogi Kava Tea (9 days into Suboxone Withdrawl) [Re: RavageTheEarth]
    #19346009 - 12/30/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So the krantom from the headshop worked for you? Im sure the stuff you have coming is fresher. Let is know if you can notice difference , hear the veit nam is strongest. Hang in there and NO MORE CRACK. WHINTNEY SAYS "CRACK IS WACK!" shes right..


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