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Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few
    #19334706 - 12/27/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Evening ramblings here, don't know if this is of interest to anyone else, but lately I've been thinking: I spent a LOT of time in 2013 experimenting with as many compounds and psychoactive plants as possible (about 18 or so). It was somewhat illuminating, fun, adventurous and all that good stuff, but could I have learned more about myself by sticking to a few substances instead? Because every time I tried a new compound I'd start low, slowly increase the dose, have some trepidation for what is in store and have to get used to new bodyloads and comeup times. On the other hand, when taking something familiar like acid, I'd be ready to dive into 300ug trips and get the most out of them since I have spent more time in that headspace. It's like knowing a lot of people superficially versus having a few really close friends, feel me?

I'm thinking in 2014 I'll buckle down with mescaline and LSD, possibly shrooms too. Journey more deeply instead of frequently. I've been tripping biweekly or more for over a year and a half, might be time to move past the honeymoon phase.

Anyone else agree, disagree.. not care? Ha. :bigblunt:


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19335384 - 12/28/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I can understand that. I've been doing the same but not quite 18 new drugs for me.  Some of the more obscure drugs don't really have much to offer. The classics are classics for a reason.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: searching]
    #19335725 - 12/28/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not gonna say how many drugs I've tried because no one will fucking believe me, but it's much more than 18 and actually, yes you're right in a way. Although I have to say I have a great understanding of what each receptor does.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19335739 - 12/28/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Know that even though most see you insane, there will still be those who would believe you.. out of reason or ignorance.. even 4hough the differenc3 might be hard to tell most of times...


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19335763 - 12/28/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I reccomend staying away from any relatively new compounds. The NBOMe series are so prevalent in my area and so many people take them. Time and time again I see these people end up thinking that acid is a demon drug because "they took it and have brain damage". I too, took 25b-NBOMe around 8 times and I can say it did have negative effects on my brain. Sticking to the "ol' faithfuls" is the smartest decision IMHO. Adventuring can be fun, but I say from experience, nothing offers more insight than LSD.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Webster10]
    #19335933 - 12/28/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you goter figured out pal!:laugh:
I personally like to have a small arsenal of substances that I like to enjoy. I feel like I know myself perfectly and these are the ones I like to keep around. Just like good friends.:gd_icon:

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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Shortknight]
    #19335978 - 12/28/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've been going through the same thing honestly and I'm going to go back to the classics for the same reason. I enjoy RCs but it's impossible to know a good starting dose and be safe without just working my way up. So it's led to a lot of mediocre trips. There are some I am incredibly grateful for like AL-LAD. But overall it's kind of wasting trip potential IMO. I'll still try the novel ones every now and then but I think I'm done making it my routine. DPT is the last one I'm seeking out, then it's back to LSD and mushrooms and hopefully mescaline at some point


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19336198 - 12/28/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When it comes to psychedelics, I seem to vibe much better with the classics.  Especially LSD.  I haven't even been able to come across obscure RCs, wish I have though.  Especially the 2c family.... But honestly, I feel like I'd always come back to Lucy in the end.  I'm actually planning on only ever doing acid and weed again after I'm clean for a while.  Lucy's that great :vibin:


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19336357 - 12/28/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah what you said about starting low and then working your way up, but not really wanting to, probably does some psychological change in a way especially with 18 chemicals in a year.  for me doing rc's has changed the way I look at tripping.  It's made it more like an experiment in a sense than an experience., since you have to experiment a lot to get the right dosage and feel for a chemical, and by the time you do you're on to the next one and starting the process up again.  it's probably best to stick with a few and getting comfortable with them and then doing larger doses.

basically i think it's better experiment with dosages with a few psychedelics then to experiment with finding new modes of tripping. it's much harder to dive all the way in when you have all these other expectations and baggage from doing a lot of psychs. it can get in the way of fully exploring a drug imho. im gonna have to stick with acid, dmt, and mushrooms for the time being. and maybe mescaline when i can get it or some other phenethylamine just since they're a lot different than tryptamines or lsd. it'll be alot more fulfilling this way


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Jesus Christ]
    #19337042 - 12/28/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the responses guys! It seems like a few of you are going through the same thing. It's not too surprising since we live in the world of RC cocktails, why not try them all right? Yeah though, it was fun but like JacksonMetaller said, I had a lot of mediocre trips when I could have been having awesome acid journeys.

I still wanna try 5-MeO-MiPT, DOC, GHB and maybe 2ce, but it's not urgent. Back to the classics for me for now

:trippinbawelz: Happy tripping in 2014 y'all


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19337055 - 12/28/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Go for ms belladonna :wink: chose after googling maybe.. (i dont lol much, but here kt sounds appropriate..)


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19337177 - 12/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I went through that phase of trying whatever came my way, it was fun and interesting and insightful and now I am done with using new or even many different psychs so indiscriminately. At this point in my life I think I benefit more from developing a relationship with the ones that I like. For me psilocybin is my number one. Mescaline is my number two.
I'd like to maybe one day try a traditional type ayahuasca brew out of curiosity, but if I really was serious about cultivating a relationship with the vine I'd probably brew the vine and take it with mushrooms.
I used to take AMT a lot a lot a lot in the early 2000's and I loved it, but I'm not too interested in it anymore, maybe if it came my way I would take it once for old times sake, but I won't try and seek it out. I'm pretty much done with all RC's, some of their experiences have been profound, others were kinda 'meh' and still others were almost downright unpleasant. I probably wouldn't even do LSD anymore unless it could be guaranteed to be very good, clean, and not some RC masquerading as acid.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19337251 - 12/28/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck RC's.

But experimenting with natural compounds is one of my hobbies as well. I just am fascinated by the effects of plants on humans.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19337274 - 12/28/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its good to experiment a bit and find out what works for you. Personally I get the most out of LSD and 2C-b, they're the most enjoyable and helpful chemicals for me.

2C-b is great cause its a few hours shorter in duration than LSD and you feel grounded with reality during the experience. It's great for offering insight into interpersonal issues, It's also the most aphrodisiac-like chemical I know of. Though it just doesn't jive with some people for some reason, so it really all just depends on you.

Iv'e tried other psychedelics but those are the best for me right now.

I want to experiment with aMT and mescaline but I can wait around a bit before then.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Icyus]
    #19337579 - 12/28/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Know that even though most see you insane, there will still be those who would believe you.. out of reason or ignorance.. even 4hough the differenc3 might be hard to tell most of times...




Well about six or seven years back I basically had a motivating drive to try every drug I could (you can see that's when I registered this account). I mainly wanted to measure the effects different chemicals have on the various receptors so as to get a better understanding of my own brain. I actually kept a list. The only problem, when it was at around 80 novel chemicals, my computer got a virus and I lost it. So I wrote down the last ones I could remember and started writing it down from there and I got up to 111 before I just stopped writing them down. I figured 111 is a unique number that is memorable and also, after doing that many different drugs, it was hard to find new ones to try. To explain how I differentiated "different drugs", well alprazolam and diazepam would be different drugs even though they're both benzos. I did this over a period of probably about 3-4 years (the majority).


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19337630 - 12/28/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cannabinated - I really liked 2cb too, it was surprisingly insightful (I read a lot about how it's just a 'feel good' kind of drug). I'd like it more if it lasted twice as long though :lol:

Wow Aopocetx, 111 compounds is pretty friggin crazy. You've been around the block to say the least! Do you have a few favorite psychedelic RCs in mind? Or just general favs? I'm curious since you've tried so many. :strokebeard:And how's your brain workin for ya these days?


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19337653 - 12/28/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cannabinated - I really liked 2cb too, it was surprisingly insightful (I read a lot about how it's just a 'feel good' kind of drug). I'd like it more if it lasted twice as long though :lol:

Wow Aopocetx, 111 compounds is pretty friggin crazy. You've been around the block to say the least! Do you have a few favorite psychedelic RCs in mind? Or just general favs? I'm curious since you've tried so many. :strokebeard:And how's your brain workin for ya these days?




I would have to say I really like 2cb but that's just from the RCs. I would probably pick that. I REALLY liked N,N-DMT but I don't know if you would consider that an RC. I like acid the most out of any psychedelic I've tried, however.

And my brain. Well, as far as I can tell I can think as well as ever. I did an online IQ test when I was at around 70 and I got the same exact score as when I first tried (127). However socially it has suffered somewhat. I seem to have a lot of anxiety and I find it hard to communicate smoothly sometimes. I would say that doing that many different drugs has had somewhat of a negative effect. However the way I think is extremely open minded to the point that it may be a hindrance in some situations?


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19337678 - 12/28/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah 2cb and 4-AcO-DMT were my personal favorite RCs I tried, and acid is still my #1.

That's reassuring your IQ didn't drop, although I don't know how much those tests mean in the first place, but at least you measured up to your previous score. That's interesting what you say about more anxiety. I definitely avoid people more now and have very few friends (but am very close to the ones I do have, great family life too). I wouldn't say I'm anxious per say but tired of playing roles people expect. I'd rather be alone. I notice I have more episodes of wigging out when going grocery shopping or something now, like I have to leave ASAP because there's too much stimulation. Anyway, open mindedness is a great trait so that's cool you've become more that way


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19337717 - 12/28/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah 2cb and 4-AcO-DMT were my personal favorite RCs I tried, and acid is still my #1.

That's reassuring your IQ didn't drop, although I don't know how much those tests mean in the first place, but at least you measured up to your previous score. That's interesting what you say about more anxiety. I definitely avoid people more now and have very few friends (but am very close to the ones I do have, great family life too). I wouldn't say I'm anxious per say but tired of playing roles people expect. I'd rather be alone. I notice I have more episodes of wigging out when going grocery shopping or something now, like I have to leave ASAP because there's too much stimulation. Anyway, open mindedness is a great trait so that's cool you've become more that way




The thing you said about playing roles is spot on! Another thing is that I feel like certain emotional reactions that I should have are dulled. Like if something is exciting, I might be sort of excited but it sure as hell doesn't show through. I feel like I'm more "monotone" in my emotional range now. But it's hard to tell if it's from the drugs or from the way I was living. For example, some days I would be inside by myself trying a new drug or tripping out instead of interacting with people, you know? Honestly I feel like the social consequences are partly because of that. So my emotional intelligence has probably suffered but my "thinking" intelligence seems to be about the same.


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Re: Trying lots of compounds vs. sticking to a chosen few [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19337999 - 12/28/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LSD, Mushrooms, Marijuana, and alcohol if you count that for me.


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