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koods
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: rulesq]
#19332502 - 12/27/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For my first confession I told the priest I let a girl touch my penis in day care 
I bet that priest was jealous.

hahahahaha, I don't even.. wait, what? hahahahahahhaha 
That's what she said.
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
#19332831 - 12/27/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Dan savage did a piece for This American Life about the lure of the Catholic Church.
Be warned, you may get weepy
Wow. I really loved watching this, and yes, I did get bit weepy. It was just so spot on about how I feel about the Catholic church also having been forced to go as a kid. Also, because now I'm an "agnostheist" as Savage put it.
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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: kr0nik0]
#19332844 - 12/27/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Devout Christians believe that man walked the Earth with dinosaurs.
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: SexyBeezy123]
#19334163 - 12/27/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The bible was written by man. Man is imperfect. Thus the bible has flaws, yes?
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: plektheplek]
#19334447 - 12/27/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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plektheplek said: The bible was written by man. Man is imperfect. Thus the bible has flaws, yes?
Succinct.
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: plektheplek]
#19334448 - 12/27/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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plektheplek said: The bible was written by man. Man is imperfect. Thus the bible has flaws, yes?
The bible is the literal word of god. So sayeth the bible
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: plektheplek]
#19334673 - 12/27/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bibles are Subjective to who commissioned them and the source of the writers. Protestants made their own,Catholics their own, not to mention the craaazy shit left out or burned. So yes, flawed. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
#19334694 - 12/27/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Adam and Eve is a creation myth with political purposes. Every culture has their creation myths. Most of them are strikingly similar from a writer's perspective.
Adam and Eve, at the moment, is a very well known creation myth, in Western society. It's familiarity transforms it into an allegorical tool for writers/speakers/thinkers. It can become a trope in and of itself, where ideas that moreso associated with modern Christianity are submitted into this archaic piece of the Bible, in hopes that an image of continuity will remain for the Church. After all, aside from vast amounts of wealth, a religion is doomed without an image of continuity.
More interestingly, the adam and eve story is being used an allegorical trope by people who are spreading thoughts that in direct conflict with the current political stances of the church. In doing so, they can sort of subconsciously steal the authenticity people are supposed to associate with the institution of the church, and once they have your trust, brainfuck you.
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andrewmurray86
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
#19334717 - 12/27/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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myc_check1212 said: Bibles are Subjective to who commissioned them and the source of the writers. Protestants made their own,Catholics their own, not to mention the craaazy shit left out or burned. So yes, flawed. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
this is not fact
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
#19334735 - 12/27/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you see, the earth has been visited by inter dimensional beings for billions of years. they first helped life get started on this planet. Then the reptilians created dinosaurs because they were cool as shit and they just wanted to see dinosaurs fight n shit. When the earth was ready, they killed off the dinosaurs and started to populate the earth again with mammals. They soon started to genetically engineer apes and human like creatures, as well as alien/human hybrids. The first successful human created was Adam. They then used his DNA to create Eve, and the rest of the human race. Once the earth was populated enough with humans, the hybrids started to set up civilizations. These beings are still involved in our evolution, and will soon be able to interact with humans on a much larger scale. Right now they only interact with few key people in the US gov't. We will soon become a part of the intergalactic family.
so ya
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: LittleDipster]
#19334755 - 12/27/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Adam and eve is way more believable than anything in the book of Mormon
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koods
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: hidenseek1]
#19334759 - 12/27/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There was no Eve. It was Steve. Everybody calls him uncle Steve, but we know what's really going on.
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hidenseek1
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
#19334762 - 12/27/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: There was no Eve. It was Steve. Everybody calls him uncle Steve, but we know what's really going on.
i can dig this
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1517 Hans Holbein, Adam and Eve
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Is fact. Different sects have their own book, each edited and redacted in their own way
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
#19334778 - 12/27/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Explains the weird Bert and Ernie vibe, but why the hate of chic-fil-a?
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
#19335388 - 12/28/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It'd not fact, only Jehovah's Witness and Mormon's (not officially Christian despite the names) have any edited scriptures. Catholics include the apocryphal texts to the bible in a separate section. All authorised translations used the same texts to translate from. These are agreed upon due to their consistency with each other and earliest available texts. currently the Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest extant versions predating previous versions by about 700 years. These are Old Testament only though. Earliest extant NT texts dates from approximately 200 AD/CE. You will note this is more than a century before the Council of Nicea, a moment that many anti-theists will say the books of the bible were altered to suit various agendas. Using texts well and truly pre-dating this event as canon, I'm sure all will agree, nullifies this hypothesis.
All texts used must fit criteria before being authorised for translation. The criteria include authenticity, accuracy of content, appropriate dating, widely accepted by early church.
And If I'm not mistaken the Vatican holds quite a few of these in their vaults.
I hope this clarifies any confusion
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psi
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andrewmurray86 said: It'd not fact, only Jehovah's Witness and Mormon's (not officially Christian despite the names) have any edited scriptures. Catholics include the apocryphal texts to the bible in a separate section.
I don't think you are correct that they are in a separate section, those books/writings occur in various different parts of the Catholic Old Testament. Separate section or not though, to a Catholic they're part of the Bible and to a Protestant they're not.
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: psi]
#19336117 - 12/28/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Earliest extant NT texts dates from approximately 200 AD/CE
Or 150 years after anyone who actually knew firsthand the stories being told - who could raise their hand and say walked on water? You hittin the pipe, Luke?
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