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MarkostheGnostic permabanned? * 2
    #19335123 - 12/28/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder why he got permabanned?

:sad:

He's been here for over 14 years and contributed a ton of valuable info, I don't really understand how he could just be gone like that.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix] * 2
    #19335153 - 12/28/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Does this really constitute a permaban? cmon ! . . . :

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MarkostheGnostic said:
You are a racist, and as I have zero interest in communicating with haters, this will be my final words with you. :bye:





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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335185 - 12/28/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I liked reading his posts


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: tito123]
    #19335201 - 12/28/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, he's helped me out a lot. All he did was point out the racism in a thread, heh.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335206 - 12/28/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He's banned until January 9th, 2014. It's still :bs: though.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: Space Elf]
    #19335274 - 12/28/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I message WS about it, I hope he will look into it. Oops, I thought it said permaban.

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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: Space Elf]
    #19335280 - 12/28/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah it is still BS that the racist post remains and the guy pointing it out is banned.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335291 - 12/28/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, he's banned until mid  January, at which point he'll come back and check his private messages, but is making an attempt to move away from the forums and work on finishing his book.  If you'd like to correspond with him, there's an email address in his profile.  He checks it about once a week.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19335316 - 12/28/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm glad he finishing up his book, can't wait to read it. Thanks for the info CJ.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335351 - 12/28/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yah, he's not proclaiming he'll never be back, as he knows from posting here over a decade that people often eat those words and come slinking back when they're lonely/want conversation.  But because he was banned for calling a spade, a spade (as he put it, and I concur), he plans to focus his free time on other areas of life.  He'll definitely drop in to let us know about the book when it's finished, and if anyone wants to get in touch with him they can check his profile for his email addy.


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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19335362 - 12/28/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I sent him an e-mail, hopefully he will mail me back :smile:

I would argue that calling someone who is making racist remark a racist isn't necessarily an ad hominem because it is pointing more at the ideology being presented, than an attribute of the person themself. But when the post is against the rules in the first place, it shouldn't matter how it is pointed out, because the poster was wrong in the first place, and had the poster never posted such a post, or the mods were doing their job, it would have never made it to that point.

So it should have been negated once the mods saw the post was wrong before the fact.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335373 - 12/28/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I mean, is calling someone an Atheist considered an ad hominem?

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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335395 - 12/28/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dunno, hTX got warned for calling Ice a rationalist I believe :lol:... Pretty much just never say "You are a ____" and you can abuse anyone as you see fit on PP&S as far as I can tell, you just have to use your imagination a bit :shrug:.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335673 - 12/28/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

teknix said:
Yeah it is still BS that the racist post remains and the guy pointing it out is banned.





He called him a racist. He didn't say what he said was racist.  Marko's has a history of flaming people who cross him.  He get's warned on a continual basis and has a lot of bans on his record.  He was told next time it would be a permaban.  Let's get all the facts here guys.

Unlike you all I'm not that impressed with his walls of text. Still as a person I kind of like him at times.  We've chatted on the phone a few times.

Remember he continually tells us he has almost no friends in the real world.  There is usually a reason for this.  I look at him as another person with some great things and some not so great.


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Edited by Icelander (12/28/13 05:58 AM)


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: Icelander]
    #19335748 - 12/28/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Markos was/is a tremendous contribution to these forums. He always fully explains his points, and backs them with multiple references that can be referred to for further info on the subject. Very cool.

I hope he comes back


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #19335827 - 12/28/13 07:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't worry. :tongue2:


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335928 - 12/28/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've been on a bunch of internet boards, and the Shroomery is by far the most efficiently moderated board I've ever seen.  The moderators here deserve thanks and respect.

"Ad hominem" stuff -- left to run wild -- is death to an internet board.  I've seen many a board collapse as a result of unchecked ad hominem shit.  It takes a careful and balanced approach to know when to give posters some slack, when to warn them, and when to ban them.  Looks to me like that careful balance is present on this board.

I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to occasionally attacking the person as opposed to critiquing his/her ideas.  We all need to be on guard against that, imo.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19335984 - 12/28/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm curious to see the conversation that took place. Can anyone provide me a link to that thread?


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19336009 - 12/28/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is the thread in question: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19257240#19257240

Notice that it didn't occur in spirituality and mysticism and bans are not a topic for discussion. As Icelander pointed out Markos has a long ban history and primarily in ps&p where personalisms are strictly against the rules and enforced in such a manner. A moderator cannot let a personalism slip by simply because they may agree with it. A personalism is a personalism. Markos was let off easy. His ban history would have resulted in a permaban by now for most.


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Re: MarkostheGnostic permabanned? [Re: teknix]
    #19336010 - 12/28/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Not S&M material.


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