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Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening
#19335601 - 12/28/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did spiritual practice and as a result the ego has begun to dissolve and lose it's group over the pure being that is simply shedding light on the action the brain typing this. I still have a great deal of counter-egoic work to do before I am totally free, but I have found the connection to my inner self, that I had so deeply longed for, and now I know that as long as I keep paying attention to, and obeying my deepest wisdom, everything will turn out beautifully.
Today, I thank the Lord for his mercy.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335665 - 12/28/13 05:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for letting us know.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Icelander] 1
#19335717 - 12/28/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your response indicates you aren't happy for me. that is hurtful. Not that I have much of an ego to feel hurt, none the less a slight feeling of hurt arose.
I am letting you know, not to glorify myself, as I am nothing, God is everything and any sense of me thats left is simply a pattern that flahsed before the eye of eternity. But I am letting you know to show the value of spiritual practice on the path of awakening. I would never have made it here without it.
I want people to know what spiritual practice can lead to, if one simply applies oneself to it. I mean, men build space ships and fly to the moon. How is that we can't learn to recognize the wiles of the ego and see past them? the answer is that we can, most people simply spend their lives chasing other pursuits. Not that there is something necessarily with this, but it does obscure a much better way to live. THe way of peace. Oh it's beautiful.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335735 - 12/28/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335802 - 12/28/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: Your response indicates you aren't happy for me. that is hurtful. Not that I have much of an ego to feel hurt, none the less a slight feeling of hurt arose.
I am letting you know, not to glorify myself, as I am nothing, God is everything and any sense of me thats left is simply a pattern that flahsed before the eye of eternity. But I am letting you know to show the value of spiritual practice on the path of awakening. I would never have made it here without it.
I want people to know what spiritual practice can lead to, if one simply applies oneself to it. I mean, men build space ships and fly to the moon. How is that we can't learn to recognize the wiles of the ego and see past them? the answer is that we can, most people simply spend their lives chasing other pursuits. Not that there is something necessarily with this, but it does obscure a much better way to live. THe way of peace. Oh it's beautiful.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335803 - 12/28/13 06:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good job!  What did you find out? Has the world view shifted?
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate] 1
#19335835 - 12/28/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: Your response indicates you aren't happy for me. that is hurtful. Not that I have much of an ego to feel hurt, none the less a slight feeling of hurt arose.
I am letting you know, not to glorify myself, as I am nothing, God is everything and any sense of me thats left is simply a pattern that flahsed before the eye of eternity. But I am letting you know to show the value of spiritual practice on the path of awakening. I would never have made it here without it.
I want people to know what spiritual practice can lead to, if one simply applies oneself to it. I mean, men build space ships and fly to the moon. How is that we can't learn to recognize the wiles of the ego and see past them? the answer is that we can, most people simply spend their lives chasing other pursuits. Not that there is something necessarily with this, but it does obscure a much better way to live. THe way of peace. Oh it's beautiful.
It's not that I'm not happy for you. It's that I think you are deluding yourself and you'll get a wake up call soon enough. I find it strange that when you get this state you claim you announce it in such a way. It reminds me very much of those in a new romance where they glorify the situation to find out later that it was not the "one".
I'm more than willing to let it all play out. I'm sure we will all see what is going on given a little time.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335844 - 12/28/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: I did spiritual practice and as a result the ego has begun to dissolve and lose it's group over the pure being that is simply shedding light on the action the brain typing this. I still have a great deal of counter-egoic work to do before I am totally free, but I have found the connection to my inner self, that I had so deeply longed for, and now I know that as long as I keep paying attention to, and obeying my deepest wisdom, everything will turn out beautifully.
Today, I thank the Lord for his mercy.
Do what you love at all times :-)
cant go wrong with that
my spiritual practice is houseplants,pets,walk in nature everyday and sit in nature,guitar/draw observe nature everyday, when I wake up in the morning I notice I am happy because my pets are :-) and from seeing the beauty of nature, new miracle each day
same happiness from any houseplant, any walk in nature
it is a good setting for tripping too... really gives good mood to have houseplants in the setting just observe in the trip but it has been a while since I last tripped
I notice that I am happy so I am doing as good as I can ;-) I dont need anything, I dont need to pursue anything I got everything I need the only thing I need to do is what I love doing, I can chose my own happiness
youtube.com/watch?v=OV6Dm4yY7Do some trance if you like trance, no time, no worries got more in my journal if you want
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: cbub]
#19335875 - 12/28/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I found out not a whole that I didn't read but essentially life is beautiful if you just don't mess with it at all. Its your own thoughts that ruin it. Learning to control the mind and put an end to these thoughts is tricky, it is challenging and can be very confusing. None the less, if you are willing to put forth the effort, it can be done.
The key is to learn how to keep one's attention on the unmanifest. This is what Ramana Maharshi said his self inquiry technique was all about, (prayer also, puts the mind in the manfiestjust a tool to help one to shift their attention from the manifest "I" and all the thoughts that surround it, back to the unmanifest where is no "I" that is doing the being, there is only being. Continually placing ones attention in the unmanifest and refusing to over value the cloud of thoughts that arises in your mind, no suprressing thoughts but simply refusing to regard them as more important than the other information available in the mind scorches the vasanas. They cannot continue forever once rthe light of conscius awareness is shown directly upon them and you are willing to see clearly what is there instead of trtyi. Scientific mind. Through a little love, a little backti into your scientific mind and you're golden. Remember, scientific mind.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335925 - 12/28/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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>>>>>that is hurtful.
Beware not of Icelander. I say unto you, thou seeker... Instead beware of Deviate. Beware of Deviate! BEWARE OF DEVIATE!!!!
For Icelander can not harm your. Only Deviate can harm Deviate and thats really only the perception of harm anyway. Ego puts up the struggle. Ego feels the hurt. I have nothing left that hurts, for I am pure and holy, an enlightened buddha. For when you see me, you should kill me. Strike me down!!! That is likened unto the directions to the closest gas station, in two blocks turn left and so I say unto you, strike me down!!!! For that is the first step, to destroy the ego you must kill it where you find it. To battle like noble Arjuna, like noble Captain Ahab in his hunt for Moby Dick!!! EVER ONWARD!!!! The white whale you seek will destroy you with it!!!! And that is what the sages mean when they say they have lost everything and gained nothing. For I am nothing. I had everything but no more. For the ego will thrash for the ego will hurt for the ego will bleed. For the ego is Moby Dick and that white whale is you!!!!!!!
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335936 - 12/28/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: I found out not a whole that I didn't read but essentially life is beautiful if you just don't mess with it at all. Its your own thoughts that ruin it. Learning to control the mind and put an end to these thoughts is tricky, it is challenging and can be very confusing. None the less, if you are willing to put forth the effort, it can be done.
The key is to learn how to keep one's attention on the unmanifest. This is what Ramana Maharshi said his self inquiry technique was all about, (prayer also, puts the mind in the manfiestjust a tool to help one to shift their attention from the manifest "I" and all the thoughts that surround it, back to the unmanifest where is no "I" that is doing the being, there is only being. Continually placing ones attention in the unmanifest and refusing to over value the cloud of thoughts that arises in your mind, no suprressing thoughts but simply refusing to regard them as more important than the other information available in the mind scorches the vasanas. They cannot continue forever once rthe light of conscius awareness is shown directly upon them and you are willing to see clearly what is there instead of trtyi. Scientific mind. Through a little love, a little backti into your scientific mind and you're golden. Remember, scientific mind.
There is nothing to remember for me
just observe, I cant see any problems only miracles each day, I am here still ;-)
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Icelander]
#19335949 - 12/28/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Deviate said: Your response indicates you aren't happy for me. that is hurtful. Not that I have much of an ego to feel hurt, none the less a slight feeling of hurt arose.
I am letting you know, not to glorify myself, as I am nothing, God is everything and any sense of me thats left is simply a pattern that flahsed before the eye of eternity. But I am letting you know to show the value of spiritual practice on the path of awakening. I would never have made it here without it.
I want people to know what spiritual practice can lead to, if one simply applies oneself to it. I mean, men build space ships and fly to the moon. How is that we can't learn to recognize the wiles of the ego and see past them? the answer is that we can, most people simply spend their lives chasing other pursuits. Not that there is something necessarily with this, but it does obscure a much better way to live. THe way of peace. Oh it's beautiful.
It's not that I'm not happy for you. It's that I think you are deluding yourself and you'll get a wake up call soon enough. I find it strange that when you get this state you claim you announce it in such a way. It reminds me very much of those in a new romance where they glorify the situation to find out later that it was not the "one".
I'm more than willing to let it all play out. I'm sure we will all see what is going on given a little time.
Oh right, because I couldn't actually be happy, no, it MUST be a delusion. Sorry, deviate is not allowed to feel happy. Its a social taboo. deviate must remain miserable, or he breaks all the unwritten social rules.
in a sense of course I am deluding myself. All life from the persspective of separation is delusional or an illusion in some way. This life is just a game. We each go through or own struggle to realize what we are and it appears to take place in a series of games. in Right now I am playing the post on the shroomery game. But what makes you think I am deluding myself any more than usual? Deluding myself into thinking what? I am happy. Isn't that a miracle in itself? I tell you, it truly does take a miracle to make a person as miserable as I was happy. If you think its delusion, then go ahead, delude yourself into feeling incredibly right now. I'll bet you can't do it. Being able to delude oneself into feeling so much peace seems like something valuable to me. Even if this doesnt last (and I know it wont in the sense that I wont always feel this good, I said I still have a lot of counter egoic work to do) its still better to experience these moments of incredible peace and then go back to being miserable than to just be miserable all the time, wouldn't you say? So again, my experience supports the value of spiritual practice.
Now tell me, where is the delusion? Please make me aware of it, so that my understanding of the truth may deepen.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335955 - 12/28/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wrote a poem for you, Deviate, left it in your ratings too.
Oh Captain, My Ahab
Further, ever onward. Be thou finished with the fight, oh Deviate. Thou hast harpooned Leviathan!!! But yet it fights, ever harder, thrashing up the white foam from the deep tearing men's flesh with its teeth, and dashing your boats to splinters!!!! Thrust into his heart a barbed spear and put him down and dash to pieces that part of you that is you! Like trading a horse for the saddle. You will be left with nothing to ride. I say unto you, that I am the invisible horse. So saddle me and ride me unto your own death!!!!
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#19335964 - 12/28/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: >>>>>that is hurtful.
Beware not of Icelander. I say unto you, thou seeker... Instead beware of Deviate. Beware of Deviate! BEWARE OF DEVIATE!!!!
For Icelander can not harm your. Only Deviate can harm Deviate and thats really only the perception of harm anyway. Ego puts up the struggle. Ego feels the hurt. I have nothing left that hurts, for I am pure and holy, an enlightened buddha. For when you see me, you should kill me. Strike me down!!! That is likened unto the directions to the closest gas station, in two blocks turn left and so I say unto you, strike me down!!!! For that is the first step, to destroy the ego you must kill it where you find it. To battle like noble Arjuna, like noble Captain Ahab in his hunt for Moby Dick!!! EVER ONWARD!!!! The white whale you seek will destroy you with it!!!! And that is what the sages mean when they say they have lost everything and gained nothing. For I am nothing. I had everything but no more. For the ego will thrash for the ego will hurt for the ego will bleed. For the ego is Moby Dick and that white whale is you!!!!!!!
Yes, thank you I know. I know that, I deviate am the problem. However, part of my practice is not to suppress egoic feelings when they arise. SO for instance, if incelander hurts my feelings, instead of pretending I am so holy that it doesn't affect me, I simply express what was felt and move on.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19335969 - 12/28/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I say not supress but kill. Strike it down. Though it kill you and wreck your ship and drown her crew. Moby Dick must die.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19335970 - 12/28/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: >>>>>that is hurtful.
Beware not of Icelander. I say unto you, thou seeker... Instead beware of Deviate. Beware of Deviate! BEWARE OF DEVIATE!!!!
For Icelander can not harm your. Only Deviate can harm Deviate and thats really only the perception of harm anyway. Ego puts up the struggle. Ego feels the hurt. I have nothing left that hurts, for I am pure and holy, an enlightened buddha. For when you see me, you should kill me. Strike me down!!! That is likened unto the directions to the closest gas station, in two blocks turn left and so I say unto you, strike me down!!!! For that is the first step, to destroy the ego you must kill it where you find it. To battle like noble Arjuna, like noble Captain Ahab in his hunt for Moby Dick!!! EVER ONWARD!!!! The white whale you seek will destroy you with it!!!! And that is what the sages mean when they say they have lost everything and gained nothing. For I am nothing. I had everything but no more. For the ego will thrash for the ego will hurt for the ego will bleed. For the ego is Moby Dick and that white whale is you!!!!!!!
I don't know. He does sound paradoxical like most enlightened people. Aren't you just jealous?
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19335988 - 12/28/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its nice to hear a report of a realization, and i'm not saying this even applies to Deviates posts, but cosmicjoke has a great point here
Watch It!
The bliss, the elation of feeling free, the premature celebration, if you don't watch it all you get sucked into another new paradigm so easily
I've noticed a paradox, that the most beautiful words tend to spill from a mouth that knows how to be quiet
Deviate, what practice did you use?
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19335994 - 12/28/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you that was a lovely poem that accurately describes the battle I am immersed. The devil and his armies do NOT go down easy, I can tell you that much. Oh my oh my, they are a worthy opponent. What a marvelous fight this is. Evem tje
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19336008 - 12/28/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Glad to hear of your breakthrough, Deviate. May the peace you're experiencing grow with each day.
Rather than purge any of my human bits, I choose to embrace and seek out a sort of reconciliation with all of them. Even the unpleasant bits.
But experience trumps theory, always. If your "counter-egoic" work bears fruit, by all means... full steam ahead.
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Re: Well, it's finally happening to me now, spiritual awakening [Re: Deviate]
#19336071 - 12/28/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So Jedi mind tricks + yogi whoever + new age Catholicism = a grand delusional head space?
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