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Plants in greenhouse
    #19334160 - 12/27/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone ever considered growing plants alongside mushrooms in their greenhouse? I'm constructing a closet greenhouse out of PVC pipe and sheets of plastic and it dawned on me that having a low maintainance plant like pothos might be beneficial in a greenhouse. Plant life would help to keep up humidity levels and lower CO2 levels. Nature has always done it right, so maybe having a full blown biosphere would be superior. Of course I would still have a Vicks v400 humidifier in there, but does anyone have any input towards putting plants in the greenhouse? Thanks, just an interesting idea I thought I'd share with you guys.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19334202 - 12/27/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive heard that it inhibits mold growth from the plant medium...

Hope that helps...


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19334216 - 12/27/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would put mush substrate in your plant green house, but I would not put plants in your mushroom greenhouse.
Hanging colonized spawn bags in a plant grow is a great way to boost co2.
If you are going to mix the two it is hard to keep soil grown plants from contaminating your mycology project.
the plants always benefit from mush, but not always the other way around


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: indocult]
    #19334226 - 12/27/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would just add a couple plants to the room the closet gh  is in if anything. 
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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: indocult]
    #19334324 - 12/27/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Most plants can't tolerate the continuous high humidity level of a mushroom grow area.
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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19334341 - 12/27/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

many soil mixes have trichoderma and other nasty molds


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19334378 - 12/27/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I agree, only seedlings really thrive in high humidity.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19334488 - 12/27/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You will be fine.  It works on a small scale indoors and out.
I prefer growing the plants on the top and the fungi on the bottom of the chamber with mushroom chamber raised off the ground 3-4 inches to moderate temperatures.

It has been done commercially since 1920.

Typically mushrooms are grown under the benches in commercial operations.  Then the mushrooms and plants are harvested and used.  The mushroom compost is mixed with rich compost and manures with additives then used to pot up the next batch of plants.
It doesn't waste space or light when you do it that way.

The fungi and plants are symbiotic in their needs.

Humidity is actually well regulated in a situation like this.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19334926 - 12/27/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Most plants can't tolerate the continuous high humidity level of a mushroom grow area.
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That's why I'd be using pothos. I've been using them in my high humidity reptile cages for years. They love the humidity. Mostly I am worried about the plants cause any mold.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19336015 - 12/28/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well like I said, keeping a soil grown plant in close proximity will likely contam the mushies
I have never heard of people growing mush underneath raised plant beds.
that would defeat the purpose of having them together.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19336242 - 12/28/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You will have to negotiate relative humidity based on your growing situation.
I don't know what RH you are growing your mushrooms under 70 or 90+?
And I don't know what target RH you have for your plants.

You can regulate it better if you separate the rooms and have different volumes of air for the rooms.  With that method you would need to actively transfer the air between rooms.

I like vegging plants at 80+ degrees under super high humidity and bright light or in a greenhouse.  I just keep bugs out of my grows using a few techniques.

I don't know the value of pothos or where you would be able to sell it.  It is fun to grow.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: mastercultivator]
    #19336318 - 12/28/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I just had some pothos lying around since I use them all the time to fancy up my reptile cages and they do wonders for the humidity in the cages, but it sounds like they would be much more trouble than their worth. Thanks for your help guys.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: mastercultivator]
    #19336332 - 12/28/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

bryophytes (mosses) would probably do alright in there. Not a whole lot of plants will enjoy the high humidity but mosses will love it.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: StickyIcky Fingers]
    #19336351 - 12/28/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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bryophytes (mosses) would probably do alright in there. Not a whole lot of plants will enjoy the high humidity but mosses will love it.



That's true too, or maybe algae. I've read into algae cultivation a bit.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19336383 - 12/28/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think algae need standing water to grow in,but are very easy to grow ask anyone who grows hydroponically and does not clean their resivor.
But I haven't looked into it at all. A thing of red algae or of a bioluminescent algae would be cool don't know if it would be possible to grow and maintain them inside tho.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: StickyIcky Fingers]
    #19336797 - 12/28/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think algae need standing water to grow in,but are very easy to grow ask anyone who grows hydroponically and does not clean their resivor.
But I haven't looked into it at all. A thing of red algae or of a bioluminescent algae would be cool don't know if it would be possible to grow and maintain them inside tho.



Yeah, you can grow spirulina in 10 gallon fish tanks with a small tank heater and some KNO3. Algae is responsible for most of the worlds oxygen so a small tank in the bottom of a greenhouse could be cool too.


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Re: Plants in greenhouse [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19337724 - 12/28/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's cool I didn't know that about spirulina


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