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OfflinePsilosopherr
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What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition???
    #19333558 - 12/27/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The weed legalization is a victory in the drug war, and to me it seems we should use the momentum from it to become truly free to explore our own minds in the states.

The easiest to legalize seems like psilocybin to me (feel free to argue the case of which one you think would be easiest!)

But I have no idea what I can do to help. I try to talk to people I know about psychedelics as much as I can. Trying to educate, or at least combat the MASSIVE amounts of misinformation.

So yeah, what can I do to help? Because as Terence McKenna said, prohibition is cultural immaturity.


ALSO: please chime in with whether or not you think legalization would even be a good thing. Would you rather keep it untaxed/illegal? and why??


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333579 - 12/27/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Campaigning. Like they do for politicians running for office. People actually have to have the information about these substances sitting in their mailboxes, otherwise they're going to just keep on believing what they already believe.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: s240779]
    #19333594 - 12/27/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
Campaigning. Like they do for politicians running for office. People actually have to have the information about these substances sitting in their mailboxes, otherwise they're going to just keep on believing what they already believe.



I like that idea. That sounds like a perfect starting point.

I'll mail people informative flyers if I have to god damnit!!

Or maybe tell people about this site? would that be a bad thing maybe?


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333595 - 12/27/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Start small. Make sure people are educated with the facts, not the propaganda.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #19333600 - 12/27/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i would just donate to maps

some guy raving about how great mushrooms are might look bad in this country too people less cultured


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333601 - 12/27/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's possible that millions of dollars could fund the proper clinical trials for a drug approval and Schedule 2 status.

However, IMO it would take a massive reorganization of our societal ideology regarding drugs to get psilocybin to be completely legal.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Konyap]
    #19333836 - 12/27/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Illyabo said:
i would just donate to maps

some guy raving about how great mushrooms are might look bad in this country too people less cultured



yeah someone just told me about maps, I'm reading about it as we speak.

I wouldn't do it person to strangers so much, but I'm considering like, making and distributing a pamphlet or something :lol:

I dunno if that sounds silly, but people don't really see this information unless they look for it. So why not make it easy for them and shove it in their faces?


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: s240779]
    #19333910 - 12/27/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
Campaigning. Like they do for politicians running for office. People actually have to have the information about these substances sitting in their mailboxes, otherwise they're going to just keep on believing what they already believe.




1. create webpage(blog!), add good information, perhaps http://www.erowid.org/general/survey/survey_lsd8_quotes1.shtml

2. spread link on facebook with http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oAcCViDlIdE/T993pThMQqI/AAAAAAAAByY/pCuMuvx2Nko/s400/psychedelics-are-illegal-not-because-your-loving-government-is-concerned-that-you-might-jump-out-of-a-third-story-window.jpg

3. make group on facebook for consciousness expansion, shamanism etc.
describe in the group what your view is on consciousness exploration and how it should be everyones right

4. of course never do this from your own profile unless you live in a country where they are legal

5. send group/likes from facebook , and your blog/homepage with correct info to the nearest politicans
keep doing it
anonymously from anonymous email if you are paranoid
send to local media too, keep doing it
mention that now weed has been legalized, that they have medical benefits too etc.


Edited by lessismore (12/27/13 06:11 PM)


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: lessismore]
    #19333916 - 12/27/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Facebook is good, but nothing beats god old fashioned paper. It would have to be done in a very sophisticated way, so that it didn't come across as sensationalist. Just the idea of promoting the idea of drugs is very strange, so the information would have to be extremely mature.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333918 - 12/27/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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High on toilet said:
Make like a list of myths and facts.
Whenever the subject of mushrooms come up I hear a lot of wild shit.



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High on toilet said:
Make like a list of myths and facts.
Whenever the subject of mushrooms come up I hear a lot of wild shit.



THAT IS FUCKING PERFECT!

I might make a few of those tonight because of how much I love that idea. Thank you for it!

Anyone got some good myths for me? One's you've heard from more people are better than plain funny ones. But I'm sure they'll all be funny anyway.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333930 - 12/27/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they send you to the looney bin and make you believe you are jesus
most people that take that kind of drugs go there sooner or later
no need to risk the mind, only alcohol is good

funny


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333936 - 12/27/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anybody who goes about this needs to read a bunch of academic books on psychedelic drugs, in my opinion. And unfortunately books cost money.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: s240779]
    #19333945 - 12/27/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
Anybody who goes about this needs to read a bunch of academic books on psychedelic drugs, in my opinion. And unfortunately books cost money.



What is needed is for everyone to share their own stories with psychedelics

just like that erowid survey I posted

create a blog, with your 10 year experience with psychedelics

now that Huxleys doors of perception, alan watts books etc. cost money

make free information to the people, a free overview of long term effects and realizations/effect on your life

also mention historical psychedelic users, mckenna, feynmann, beatles/john lennon, alan watts, huxley, albert hofmann,steve jobs,pink floyd...
and the guy that got a nobelprice in biology iirc, for inventing PCR (polymerase chain reaction for dna), which he attributed to LSD


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19333953 - 12/27/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dont want to risk it, I will be stuck in the trip forever

that one is normal to hear


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #19333963 - 12/27/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You should read EVERY scientific paper on the genus Psilocybe.

A small starting point is here.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: The Lightning] * 1
    #19333972 - 12/27/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah MAPS has it covered. A bunch of shroomery freaks raving about mushrooms is going to make people nervous, we tried that approach back in the 60's, remember how that turned out?


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #19333984 - 12/27/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Illyabo said:
i would just donate to maps






I've donated to MAPS just a few weeks ago. Been following their work closely for a while. Good stuff. It seems like MAPS alone is holding up the future of psychedelic research in this country. They couldn't have a better frontman either.... Rick Doblin seems like such a great guy, very humble, rational and has taken completely the right approach for easing the topic of psychedelic research back into the cultural dialogue for the first time in decades. We are extremely fortunate to have Rick leading the charge because this is such a precarious subject that had somebody approached the reearch sloppily, or in a misguided manner, society at large would likely have shut the door on psychedelic research for another few decades or longer. We couldn't afford another Tim Leary style chracter who goes around recklessly advocating psychedelics for the masses (with little regard for the dangers and risks) and encouraging people to drop out of society as we know it.

Rick has taken the right approach and was wise to focus his first major psychedelic studies on PTSD patients who have served our country in uniform... if they could benefit from therapeutic psychedelic sessions then its more likely for society to begin to accept the fact that any random Joe can benefit from these substances if used properly and in the right setting.

Im on my tablet and typing on this thing sucks ass (took me bout 20 mins to write this), but I will leave you with this:

SUPPORT MAPS!

And the Heffter Institute for that matter. Thank god somebody out there is doing this much needed and long overdue work.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: s240779]
    #19333990 - 12/27/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
Anybody who goes about this needs to read a bunch of academic books on psychedelic drugs, in my opinion. And unfortunately books cost money.



Well, I've read "The Doors of Perception," and "Heaven and Hell," I think twice each, until I really understood them.

Just getting started on "Food of the Gods," and after that I've got "The Spirit Molecule." on deck

Not exactly academic, but I like to think they've given me some knowledge/insights on the subject. And I'm pretty experience with psilocybin personally. (not just an 8th at a time:lol:)




Ideally this would also be a group effort with some other people around town or over the web.


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: s240779] * 1
    #19334021 - 12/27/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
Anybody who goes about this needs to read a bunch of academic books on psychedelic drugs, in my opinion.




YES!

By far the best response in this thread.

You just gave me an idea. I will transcribe a list of all the books I own regarding psychedelic research and make a new thread where fellow trip lit fans can post their reading list (regarding psychedelics) and discuss the literature in general.

Anyways, Im down to contribute to whatever ideas your kicking around OP .... Ive got a few of my own too if you want to get together and collaborate.  PM me :smile:


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Re: What can we do as individuals to help end psilocybin prohibition??? [Re: chutney]
    #19334053 - 12/27/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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chutney said:
Quote:

Da2ra said:
Anybody who goes about this needs to read a bunch of academic books on psychedelic drugs, in my opinion.




YES!

By far the best response in this thread.

You just gave me an idea. I will transcribe a list of all the books I own regarding psychedelic research and make a new thread where fellow trip lit fans can post their reading list (regarding psychedelics) and discuss the literature in general.

Anyways, Im down to contribute to whatever ideas your kicking around OP .... Ive got a few of my own too if you want to get together and collaborate.  PM me :smile:



Wow thanks dude! I'll have to do that so we can kick ideas around. I'd love to hear yours.




HighonToilet: Yes I have copies of all the books I mentioned. Why does that matter :lol:


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