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Pf Teck, not fruiting
    #19333909 - 12/27/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys I'm having trouble with my first grow, six jars pf tek, and nothing has fruited except 1 small shroom, I don't know what could be causing the lack of fruiting. I have them in a humidity roughly 90-100% on jar lids over soaked perlite. Temp is around 75-80f. Any ideas?


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: Shroomteck]
    #19333944 - 12/27/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How long were they fully colonized before you did put them in fruiting conditions?
How long are you waiting?
What do you use as a fruiting chamber? Do they get enough fresh air exchange?
Do they get light? What is the light source you use?


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: monoculture]
    #19334036 - 12/27/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Shroomteck,

In my experience, the cakes figure out that they're out of the jar and ready to make fruits by having water evaporate off of their surface (makes em cold, defines a surface). Fanning gives you knots, and then pins, and then fruits, after about 8-12 days. A rolled cake needs to be fanned moreso than a naked cake to compensate for the microclimate of verm layer.

What is your fanning regimen like? It's hard to tell for certain with the available information, but I suggest more frequent fanning. I fan my rolled cakes 3-6 times a day with 100 'fans' each time.

PS- Data I've collected says a mean 204hrs to pin after fist dunk, and mean 4-9 days to harvest after that. So if your inside that area, just be patient.

EDIT: First dunk and roll, subsequent dunks produce pins faster in my experience. Also a humidified chamber, not SG.


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: Quexl]
    #19335043 - 12/28/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fully colonized for a week before dunking, fan 2 times a day if I can (when I don't work nights) they do get fanned so fresh air is no issue they get roughly 12 hours indirect sunlight (window light but off to the side) every day plus minor light all night from my hydroponic setup in the same room, and my fruiting chamber is a plant mini greenhouse with a few minor modifications


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: Shroomteck]
    #19335105 - 12/28/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How long have they been fruiting? Could just be multispore genetics though.


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: mushmagic]
    #19335397 - 12/28/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

while you guys are talking about lights and stuff I have a question that I cant seem to find the answer for. Why is direct sunlight a no-no?


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: Quexl]
    #19335433 - 12/28/13 03:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quexl said:
A rolled cake needs to be fanned moreso than a naked cake to compensate for the microclimate of verm layer.



Not true at all.

We do not fan the cakes, we fan out the chamber to make room for evaporation to take place of the water we just misted.

Whether you have rolled them in verm or not, you would still fan out the chamber just the same, and for the same reason.

We fan after misting the cakes to lower the RH to make room for evaporation.


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: PussyFart]
    #19336236 - 12/28/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

1 week is the minimum consolidation time. Better make your new cakes quite soon so they can consolidate until they start pinning inside their jars. That way you will not have to wait more than a week after birthing and dunking, but they will immediately take off then.
How long are they in fruiting conditions now? I think you just need some patience.

About the myc getting direct sunlight, afaik that is no problem, as long as it isn't longer than say 2 hours a day.
The direct sunlight has lots of UV, which might damage the mycelium when exposed to that for long times in a row.


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: monoculture]
    #19337036 - 12/28/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they shouldn't be getting more the 10-15 minutes of direct sunlight, but some direct sunlight will help promote pinning


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: cronicr]
    #19337172 - 12/28/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

don't worry the rest of the shroomies will come around, cakes can take their sweet time to flush, 2 weeks or more(even if you did  a week of consolidation) keep misting and fanning , most will pin on the second week after being introduced to fruiting conditions

how long have they been in the SGFC?


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: loki44]
    #19337320 - 12/28/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys, seems I was a little impatient, a great pinset just came out on three of the cakes. Thanks for all the advice


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Re: Pf Teck, not fruiting [Re: PussyFart]
    #19342872 - 12/29/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Notahacker420 said:

Not true at all.

We do not fan the cakes, we fan out the chamber to make room for evaporation to take place of the water we just misted.

Whether you have rolled them in verm or not, you would still fan out the chamber just the same, and for the same reason.

We fan after misting the cakes to lower the RH to make room for evaporation.




Thanks for the clarification Notahacker, I kind of over-complicated the process. :smile:

Also glad to hear pin sets are showing now, Shroomteck. :thumbup:


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