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Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life
#19333733 - 12/27/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life
Do you agree? Discuss
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333747 - 12/27/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fear, stress and anger..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333750 - 12/27/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fear is the mind killer.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus] 1
#19333752 - 12/27/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anger and stress stem from fear I think
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19333769 - 12/27/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aanger out of hate.. anger our of pain... hose I could think of..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19333771 - 12/27/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
#19333774 - 12/27/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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legitimate fear is one of the survival instinct's tool
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Synth Ethics]
#19333785 - 12/27/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes.. still I think it is unnessecery..find it only screws up things myself... snaps one out of focus... making mistakes ect... never had any use for it, so I got rid of it..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333799 - 12/27/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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misunderstanding, nonunderstanding eye see creates fear in those who need any a grasp of such to feel stable, balanced in lives. conspiracy theories that lead to no concrete conlusions leaves an unknown where an optimist or pesimist can come to own perspective. found really depends on physical health of individuals; mind and body. those times when thoughts slipping, turning negative much of all looks hopeless and non-desirable, fear and belittle, simple organic foods will turn thoughts around with the first bud to taste. amongst many other things there are to make what is here, now in front of eye better, pleasant, euphoric.
when search 'opposite of fear?' in google, the answer comes to 'Love'.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: WhoManBeing]
#19333809 - 12/27/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Opposite lf fear is contentment, a form of peace.. i think, oppisite of love to be hate.. to want to be with, and not want to be with..
this is a mess though, so ignore this and do not bother too much with it.. fear is bad for the one content.. just relax and love.. blissed you be
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: WhoManBeing] 1
#19333833 - 12/27/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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WhoManBeing said: Needs to be captilized misunderstanding, nonunderstanding eye see creates fear in I don't understand? those who need any a grasp of such to feel stable, balanced conclusions* in lives. conspiracy theories that lead to no concrete conlusions leaves an unknown where an optimist or pesimist can come to their* Consider revising own perspective. found really depends on physical health of
individuals; mind and body.
Atrocious grammatical errors and illegible sentence structure those times when thoughts slipping, turning negative much of all looks hopeless and non-desirable, fear and belittle, simple organic foods will turn thoughts around with the first bud to taste. amongst many other things there are to make what is here, now in front of eye better, pleasant, euphoric.
when search 'opposite of fear?' in google, the answer comes to 'Love'.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333837 - 12/27/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sheekle said: I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life
Do you agree? Discuss
Are you Buddhist OP? Sounds like something a buddhist would say...
One could also say that anger and aggression is fear.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus] 1
#19333850 - 12/27/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's all about how you manage your fear I think as it's something you can't avoid. ignoring it is just as unhealty as letting it overpower you.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333853 - 12/27/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sheekle said: I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life
Do you agree? Discuss
No fear, no problems
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
#19333868 - 12/27/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Synth Ethics said: it's all about how you manage your fear I think as it's something you can't avoid. ignoring it is just as unhealty as letting it overpower you.
yeah good wise words here Quote:
High on toilet said: Buddhism is a hipster phase Sheekle is a trend starter not a hipster.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333886 - 12/27/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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true, dont fear your fear
so no fear :-) but act on the fear if it is rational
observe everything
buddhism has much truth IMO
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19333892 - 12/27/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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at times fear exists, or does it not? think of when on high roller coaster, hundreds of feet above the ground, being held in by two little metal bars. one's mind/imagination could create fearfull vision of what could go wrong, SPLAT! simple examination of what is happening would bring understanding of precautions taken ensuring safety of people. us whoMans are the most complex compostion of matter ever known to to mind. we live within this body that operates so many micros that make the whole. not only do we feel what is happening with as life goes, we interact with external influences. that same trueth of understanding our own, can apply to understanding any given situation, scnerario where emotions may rise. emotions of all sort that only can be labeled with words to communicate with others. experiencing a moment and sharing that experience with another leads no need to have speak of feelings with as to experiencing the experience itself.
old line written under peace of art years ago goes something like this, 'communication permitted via difficulty.' the Lord song singing now lets all ears there to listen.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: WhoManBeing]
#19333902 - 12/27/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm afraid of being afraid. That is my only fear and I live the happiest of lives.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19333913 - 12/27/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am not afraid...
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19333933 - 12/27/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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WhoManBeing said: Needs to be captilized misunderstanding, nonunderstanding eye see creates fear in I don't understand? those who need any a grasp of such to feel stable, balanced conclusions* in lives. conspiracy theories that lead to no concrete conlusions leaves an unknown where an optimist or pesimist can come to their* Consider revising own perspective. found really depends on physical health of
individuals; mind and body.
Atrocious grammatical errors and illegible sentence structure those times when thoughts slipping, turning negative much of all looks hopeless and non-desirable, fear and belittle, simple organic foods will turn thoughts around with the first bud to taste. amongst many other things there are to make what is here, now in front of eye better, pleasant, euphoric.
when search 'opposite of fear?' in google, the answer comes to 'Love'.
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fifty fifty fine balance. as it takes two to make whole. instead of getting another rabbit down the whole trying to understand the scene, sharing words drawing near conclusion, Eye got graded. very much helped understand a bit of converstations that held me at same crest of conciuos awareness when always Love expansion.
stretch here for explanation in relation to thread. -kid asks mom for play in the park. mom says that maybe later swings and things. the possibilty of not be fearful to ephoric thoughts of going and having a ball. as if the kid needs to have truethful answer creating balanced emotions.
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Edited by WhoManBeing (12/27/13 06:11 PM)
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19334175 - 12/27/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Posting so I remember to make a longer reply when its not 3am.
I can see fear being the root of alot of things but then I dont in others..I'll elaborate tomorrow and hopefully someone can try explain to me what I'm missing.
But yeah irrational fear fucks up alot of things for alot of people..and most dont even realise it.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
#19334218 - 12/27/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because fear is so closely linked to loss [of stuff, people, life, etc.], and loss is a precursor to desire, which is the root of suffering, it stands to reason that fear and suffering go hand in hand.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Scarab74]
#19334235 - 12/27/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How is loss a precursor to desire? The desire to replace that which you lost?
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
#19334281 - 12/27/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shambala Sun - Fear & Fearlessness: What the Buddhists Teach
very thorough. sorry not at time to read and summarize for ya'll. probably more thought towards subject than me Eye have done so.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: WhoManBeing]
#19334294 - 12/27/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hooked three paragraphs in...and I meant to go to sleep two hours ago, oh well! Thanks man
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
#19334337 - 12/27/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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iarphairc said: How is loss a precursor to desire? The desire to replace that which you lost?
I think so. Or maybe to "replace" (for lack of a better word) that which you never had. Like when you see a commercial for something you didn't know existed but now you think you can't live without.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Scarab74]
#19334360 - 12/27/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can see that...Makes sense, another reason to dislike the excessive materialism in modern society. Well thanks to you too! 
Wait, didn't somebody condemn materialism as causing suffering before? 
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Being free of fear is certainly praised in the buddhadharma. One of the three major types of giving is giving someone protection from fear.
See..I dont get how people would rather believe in a religion, that in my country kept homosexuality and contraception illegal until the 90's (hell divorce was illegal until the 80's I think), over a philosophy hat propagates idea's such as the above...Oh wait its because they dont think about it...*Sigh
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19334369 - 12/27/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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High on toilet said: So are you constantly afraid? What about being afraid are you afraid of? And what would make that fear rise? Are you living a life of constant fear of fear?
No, more like the opposite. I don't really ever have the feeling of fear I guess. It doesn't make any sense to unless the situation calls for it, like when there is a possibility of bodily harm or something like that. Same as it doesn't make sense to ever feel unhappy.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
#19335368 - 12/28/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A philosophical sheekle? wtf?

I think it is pretty deep.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
#19335378 - 12/28/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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High on toilet said: "Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity. Do not misunderstand me danger is very real but fear is a choice."- will smith - - in that 1 movie- - -
Fear is as real as any other emotion. In fact, it is more "real" because it is one of our basic hardwired neurological systems. We have innate fears that we don't even have to learn, they are coded in our DNA. Snakes and spiders. We have to learn to not fear them.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19335381 - 12/28/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Agree.
Fear is the misidentification of love, which I believe is all there is...
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: koods]
#19335385 - 12/28/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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High on toilet said: "Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity. Do not misunderstand me danger is very real but fear is a choice."- will smith - - in that 1 movie- - -
Fear is as real as any other emotion. In fact, it is more "real" because it is one of our basic hardwired neurological systems. We have innate fears that we don't even have to learn, they are coded in our DNA. Snakes and spiders. We have to learn to not fear them.
I think we learned to fear such things.
I suspect outdoorsy people aren't particularly frightened by a snake or spider...
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
#19335392 - 12/28/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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dodgem said:
"What else is there to feel, other than to feel good"
Mad, sad, bad, and scared.
But why would you feel those things if they are not positive to your overall well being. I don't understand why people do things they know will not benefit them. I feel humans are the only animals that make decisions that are not in our overall best interest.
Why not be happy all the time. No one else can make that decision for you, it is up to you to be happy.
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High on toilet said: "Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity. Do not misunderstand me danger is very real but fear is a choice."- will smith - - in that 1 movie- - -
Fear is as real as any other emotion. In fact, it is more "real" because it is one of our basic hardwired neurological systems. We have innate fears that we don't even have to learn, they are coded in our DNA. Snakes and spiders. We have to learn to not fear them.
I think we learned to fear such things.
Fear of Snakes, Spiders Rooted in Evolution
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: koods]
#19335448 - 12/28/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Touché...
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] 1
#19335480 - 12/28/13 03:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sheekle said: I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life
Do you agree? Discuss
Yes, I don't want to die. Fear is the most primal emotion, the first emotion so to speak. It's instinct, and that's hard, if even possible to overcome.
Although I do think that acknowledgement and understanding of some of the illusions that root back to fear might help people to better themselves in some ways.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19335628 - 12/28/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why do anything but feel good?" - You will be missing some part of the expereance... personally, I do not fear. It only makes me sick..
still, I would not deny pain and sorrow... they contrast the eternal bliss... without the other, the first would be meaningless and all that.. not to be too much of a hypocrite, but honestly.. I do not fear, nor hate.. they only bring bad things.. pain and sorrow however, I find quite enjoyable as they really mankfest all the way down.. but generaly? I am abliss.. life or death, What does it matter? I simply do see the reason to bother with it..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus] 1
#19335647 - 12/28/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find it extremely difficult to believe that you "do not fear"
If you're walking down the street late at night and a crazy, angry, fat, naked man with a blowtorch and a chainsaw starting running full speed at you, you wouldn't run away?
Less comically, if you were standing on a ledge and you almost slipped, you wouldn't try to regain your balance?
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19335659 - 12/28/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would try to regain my balance, if jumping was not my intention... as I still probably had an unfinished task in life.. but why da hell would someone run at me with a chqinsaw? I would just step aside so the could get to those people.. if he for some reason was running at me.. I would stare at him with a ... dumfounded.. look untill the idiot killed me or he stopped...
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
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He's running at you with a chainsaw because he wants to abduct you, take you home and throw you in a pit in his basement and feed you fish heads for the rest of your life
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19335697 - 12/28/13 06:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would stare at him till he stopped and give him a lecture why what he is doing is wrong.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19335710 - 12/28/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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He ain't gon' listen to your lecturing, he's just gonna throw your ass in a van and take you to his rape basement before anyone knows what's going on
He's a psychopath, he doesn't care
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19335719 - 12/28/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So be it.. he will be the one to get raped..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19335750 - 12/28/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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But you're not the one with the chainsaw, what if he cuts off your legs
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19335765 - 12/28/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I need but even voice a word..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19335766 - 12/28/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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NO TIME
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19335860 - 12/28/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sheekle said: I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life
Do you agree? Discuss
This is an oversimplification, there are many more sources for negativity in life than fear.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
#19335866 - 12/28/13 07:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sheekle said: I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life
Do you agree? Discuss
There is no negative things or badness in life so far as I can tell. How could you ever think there is?
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods] 1
#19335869 - 12/28/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Into The Woods said: I find it extremely difficult to believe that you "do not fear"
If you're walking down the street late at night and a crazy, angry, fat, naked man with a blowtorch and a chainsaw starting running full speed at you, you wouldn't run away?
Holy crap I nearly spat my drink everywhere reading this and his rape basement ha ha ha
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods] 1
#19335879 - 12/28/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Into The Woods said: I find it extremely difficult to believe that you "do not fear"
Anyone who thinks they're beyond fear or pain is overly sheltered, a few seconds of water boarding or digging around with pliers would break that delusion.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods] 1
#19335900 - 12/28/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Into The Woods said: I find it extremely difficult to believe that you "do not fear"
If you're walking down the street late at night and a crazy, angry, fat, naked man with a blowtorch and a chainsaw starting running full speed at you, you wouldn't run away?
Less comically, if you were standing on a ledge and you almost slipped, you wouldn't try to regain your balance?
I'd switch off my targeting computer to take the shot, blow it and go home. Jedis don't puss out when the trumpet horn of battle is called. Sometimes you gotta blow up a deathstar. Sometimes that small moon turns out to be a space station. Death and life are irrelevant. A jedi does or does not, he does not try.
I'm not Mace Windu but I'll cut a bitch!!!

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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#19336003 - 12/28/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19336336 - 12/28/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a tendancy telling people thing they do not want to know.. and if someone runs at me with a chainsaw.. either he will kill me, or I will make him beg me to kill him since I told him he couldnt do it himself... then I will let him live to his suffering...
the point is rather, that I would not run from something... If I do not wish to give everything I have in each and every action.. why do them? It is like scrooge mcduck, as I read whwn I was little.. got so much of something, and loves it more than anything, but it is worth nothing if it is burried away.. one must use life, i think.. not lock it away and fear each day for it to be stolen away... that is a path of suffering..
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19336346 - 12/28/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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may not be fearful but be brave.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19336409 - 12/28/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icyus said: I have a tendancy telling people thing they do not want to know.. and if someone runs at me with a chainsaw.. either he will kill me, or I will make him beg me to kill him since I told him he couldnt do it himself... then I will let him live to his suffering...
the point is rather, that I would not run from something... If I do not wish to give everything I have in each and every action.. why do them? It is like scrooge mcduck, as I read whwn I was little.. got so much of something, and loves it more than anything, but it is worth nothing if it is burried away.. one must use life, i think.. not lock it away and fear each day for it to be stolen away... that is a path of suffering..
He's not going to listen to you though, he's not going to care what you think, he's a complete sociopath
He doesn't want to kill you, he just wants to fuck you up in his rape basement for years and years and years
You'd never see the sun again
He wants to cut your toes off and glue dolls heads to them and whip you til you dance like Brittany Spears
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Repertoire89 said: Anyone who thinks they're beyond fear or pain is overly sheltered, a few seconds of water boarding or digging around with pliers would break that delusion.
Fear is instinctive, it's the base emotion, the most primal emotion. You can't just dismiss it.
Even something as simple as sometimes denying being wrong about something rather than admitting to it. That's fear. Ultimately, fear of death.
I quote from another thread:
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liquidlounge said: Could you elaborate on how faults are connected to death? That's interesting. I've never thought about that.
Faults equal varying risks of death.
FAULT:
a. A character weakness b. Something that impairs or detracts from physical perfection c. A mistake d. A minor offense or misdeed.
From our ancestors chasing the woods for food to Americans fighting towel heads. Or in less critical situations such as messing up at work increasing the risk of getting fired, which again could make you economically vulnerable. This is even the core to when your friend is wrong in regards to subjects of no actual importance, due to this he/she reacts rather irrational.
A character weakness is in other words vulnerability and being vulnerable means death which is mans root to fear, hence being wrong is fearful and no one want to experience fear. This is why you see most people react nutty or anxiously when being wrong.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19336418 - 12/28/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So be it then. If I cannot change the fate, how can I? Is that not your scenario?
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus]
#19336455 - 12/28/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My scenario here is not claiming that I choose to not fear anything, because that's impossible. It's just human instinct, survival.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19336465 - 12/28/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your one intelligent guy man, thank you!
Something I need to man up to is when I'd debate/argue with somebody and Im certain Im right then realise I'm not like half an hour later. Usually I'll see it during but sometimes in the heat of the argument.
Most recently happened with my brother but he is such an insufferable know-it-all gloat I literally could not bear to hear him go on and on >:(
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
#19336585 - 12/28/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just something the crew over in PSP taught me one day.
Here's the thread if you're interested: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18953318/page/3/fpart/all
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19336612 - 12/28/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ha ha repeating things to sound intelligent I like it! I'm kidding, but yeah that forum has some quality discussion surrounded by a fair bit of crap, like anything I guess. Cheers I'll read it now
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
#19336634 - 12/28/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some of the folk over there have a lot of wisdom to teach.
And some don't.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
#19336640 - 12/28/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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iarphairc said: Ha ha repeating things to sound intelligent I like it! I'm kidding, but yeah that forum has some quality discussion surrounded by a fair bit of crap, like anything I guess. Cheers I'll read it now 
Best part of these forums imo, gets tiresome sometimes though
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
#19336663 - 12/28/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Into The Woods said: My scenario here is not claiming that I choose to not fear anything, because that's impossible. It's just human instinct, survival.
it makes me wonder just how much we've misplaced our fear for survival in 21st century america. the fears we used to place on very real dangers are placed on little stupid things. this is probably the cause for all kinds of anxiety and depressive conditions. i think that without the proper teaching (psychedlics, meditation, exercise, etc) that fear will always be there and in strange places, until we realize that it's not real. being chased by a puma is real fear. not having any food to clean water to drink is real fear. these fears are there to get us to stay alive. once a fear is placed on something that has nothing to do with survival (term paper), it's not really there i think.
the fear of hurting someone/something else though I think is just as real as the fear for survival. we may not need to be a good person in order to survive, but we need it to have our consciousness clean. maybe the whole concept of afterlife and paying for your karma upon death is what make us fear for doing harm, and if those concepts are real, then that fear is real fear.
as animals we have the real primal fear of dying, but as 'highly' conscious beings we have a whole other level of fear on top of that, imo. just a thought.
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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Jesus Christ]
#19336838 - 12/28/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fear is the root of many (all?) illusions, I agree.
And I don't believe in an afterlife, or karma in a supernatural/superstitious sense (if someone's being a dick and they feel guilty about it or even get punched in the face for it, that's what karma is to me) but I still try to be a good person for the sake of it. And I'm sure there's plenty of other people who're the same way. Or I like to think there are.
I think if someone needs God, or fear of the afterlife to be a good and decent person then by all means, don't let me or anyone else talk them out of it.
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