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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #19333933 - 12/27/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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WhoManBeing said:
  Needs to be captilized
misunderstanding, nonunderstanding eye see creates fear in
                          I don't understand?
those who need any a grasp of such to feel stable, balanced
                                                        conclusions*
in lives.  conspiracy theories that lead to no concrete conlusions
leaves an unknown where an optimist or pesimist can come to their*                       
                Consider revising
own perspective.  found really depends on physical health of

individuals; mind and body. 

Atrocious grammatical errors and illegible sentence structure
those times when thoughts slipping, turning negative much of all looks hopeless and non-desirable, fear and belittle, simple organic foods will turn thoughts around with the first bud to taste.  amongst many other things there are to make what is here, now in front of eye better, pleasant, euphoric.

when search 'opposite of fear?' in google, the answer comes to 'Love'.




54%




fifty fifty fine balance.  as it takes two to make whole.  instead of getting another rabbit down the whole trying to understand the scene, sharing words drawing near conclusion, Eye got graded.  very much helped understand a bit of converstations that held me at same crest of conciuos awareness when always Love expansion.

stretch here for explanation in relation to thread.
-kid asks mom for play in the park.  mom says that maybe later swings and things.  the possibilty of not be fearful to ephoric thoughts of going and having a ball.  as if the kid needs to have truethful answer creating balanced emotions.


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Eye was thinking the other day...  ahh, thinking never done me no good.



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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
    #19334175 - 12/27/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Posting so I remember to make a longer reply when its not 3am.

I can see fear being the root of alot of things but then I dont in others..I'll elaborate tomorrow and hopefully someone can try explain to me what I'm missing.

But yeah irrational fear fucks up alot of things for alot of people..and most dont even realise it.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
    #19334218 - 12/27/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because fear is so closely linked to loss [of stuff, people, life, etc.], and loss is a precursor to desire, which is the root of suffering, it stands to reason that fear and suffering go hand in hand.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Scarab74]
    #19334235 - 12/27/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How is loss a precursor to desire? The desire to replace that which you lost?


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
    #19334281 - 12/27/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Shambala Sun - Fear & Fearlessness: What the Buddhists Teach

very thorough.  sorry not at time to read and summarize for ya'll.  probably more thought towards subject than me Eye have done so.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19334294 - 12/27/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hooked three paragraphs in...and I meant to go to sleep two hours ago, oh well! Thanks man :smile:


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: iarphairc]
    #19334337 - 12/27/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How is loss a precursor to desire? The desire to replace that which you lost?




I think so.  Or maybe to "replace" (for lack of a better word) that which you never had.  Like when you see a commercial for something you didn't know existed but now you think you can't live without.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Scarab74]
    #19334360 - 12/27/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can see that...Makes sense, another reason to dislike the excessive materialism in modern society. Well thanks to you too! :smile:


Wait, didn't somebody condemn materialism as causing suffering before? :laugh:


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Being free of fear is certainly praised in the buddhadharma. One of the three major types of giving is giving someone protection from fear.




See..I dont get how people would rather believe in a religion, that in my country kept homosexuality and contraception illegal until the 90's (hell divorce was illegal until the 80's I think), over a philosophy hat propagates idea's such as the above...Oh wait its because they dont think about it...*Sigh


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
    #19334369 - 12/27/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So are you constantly afraid?
What about being afraid are you afraid of? And what would make that fear rise? Are you living a life of constant fear of fear?




No, more like the opposite.  I don't really ever have the feeling of fear I guess.  It doesn't make any sense to unless the situation calls for it, like when there is a possibility of bodily harm or something like that.  Same as it doesn't make sense to ever feel unhappy. 

"What else is there to feel, other than to feel good"


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #19335368 - 12/28/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A philosophical sheekle? wtf?

:themoreyouknow:

I think it is pretty deep.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #19335378 - 12/28/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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"Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity. Do not misunderstand me danger is very real but fear is a choice."- will smith - - in that 1 movie- - -




Fear is as real as any other emotion. In fact, it is more "real" because it is one of our basic hardwired neurological systems. We have innate fears that we don't even have to learn, they are coded in our DNA. Snakes and spiders. We have to learn to not fear them.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle]
    #19335381 - 12/28/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Agree.

Fear is the misidentification of love, which I believe is all there is...:heart::peace:


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: koods]
    #19335385 - 12/28/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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High on toilet said:
"Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity. Do not misunderstand me danger is very real but fear is a choice."- will smith - - in that 1 movie- - -




Fear is as real as any other emotion. In fact, it is more "real" because it is one of our basic hardwired neurological systems. We have innate fears that we don't even have to learn, they are coded in our DNA. Snakes and spiders. We have to learn to not fear them.




I think we learned to fear such things.

I suspect outdoorsy people aren't particularly frightened by a snake or spider...


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #19335392 - 12/28/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dodgem said:


"What else is there to feel, other than to feel good"



Mad, sad, bad, and scared.




But why would you feel those things if they are not positive to your overall well being.  I don't understand why people do things they know will not benefit them. I feel humans are the only animals that make decisions that are not in our overall best interest.

Why not be happy all the time. No one else can make that decision for you, it is up to you to be happy.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: cez] * 1
    #19335420 - 12/28/13 02:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
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High on toilet said:
"Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity. Do not misunderstand me danger is very real but fear is a choice."- will smith - - in that 1 movie- - -




Fear is as real as any other emotion. In fact, it is more "real" because it is one of our basic hardwired neurological systems. We have innate fears that we don't even have to learn, they are coded in our DNA. Snakes and spiders. We have to learn to not fear them.




I think we learned to fear such things.




Fear of Snakes, Spiders Rooted in Evolution


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: koods]
    #19335448 - 12/28/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Touché...:hatsoff:


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #19335480 - 12/28/13 03:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've ultimately come to conclude that fear is ultimately the culprit of all badness in life

Do you agree? Discuss




Yes, I don't want to die. Fear is the most primal emotion, the first emotion so to speak. It's instinct, and that's hard, if even possible to overcome.

Although I do think that acknowledgement and understanding of some of the illusions that root back to fear might help people to better themselves in some ways.


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19335628 - 12/28/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why do anything but feel good?"
- You will be missing some part of the expereance... personally, I do not fear. It only makes me sick..

still, I would not deny pain and sorrow... they contrast the eternal bliss... without the other, the first would be meaningless and all that.. not to be too much of a hypocrite, but honestly.. I do not fear, nor hate.. they only bring bad things.. pain and sorrow however, I find quite enjoyable as they really mankfest all the way down.. but generaly? I am abliss.. life or death, What does it matter? I simply do see the reason to bother with it..


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Icyus] * 1
    #19335647 - 12/28/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I find it extremely difficult to believe that you "do not fear"

If you're walking down the street late at night and a crazy, angry, fat, naked man with a blowtorch and a chainsaw starting running full speed at you, you wouldn't run away?

Less comically, if you were standing on a ledge and you almost slipped, you wouldn't try to regain your balance?


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Re: Fear is the heart behind all things negative and wrong in life [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19335659 - 12/28/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would try to regain my balance, if jumping was not my intention... as I still probably had an unfinished task in life.. but why da hell would someone run at me with a chqinsaw? I would just step aside so the could get to those people.. if he for some reason was running at me.. I would stare at him with a ... dumfounded.. look untill the idiot killed me or he stopped...


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