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anne halonium X HTTL * 3
    #19333431 - 12/27/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

im anne halonium.
some know me some dont...............

presented is my XHTTL.
(extreme hydro test tube lophophora)
based on my previous HTTL works.
it requires its own thread.

its rather simple and direct.
observe.



PP5 cups, are lid drilled 1/2 inch x4.
hydro pereskiopsis , started in 10-10-10 NPK.
when the pereskiopsis are good and vibrant, graft.

in this case , clones were used.
as you can see, they grow fast.
seeds? , works the same........

hydro water, changed about every 10 days.
lights?
LED 5400K and LLE 7500k 150 W combo.
side chip lights for color flavor on lower leaves. 450 nm and 680 nm.

100 or so days for pereskiopsis, about 75 days for largest grafts.

the key to this kind of thing, is hyper power pereskiopsis.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19333830 - 12/27/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dang woman,those have got to be the healthiest Pereskiopsis I've ever seen,and the Lophs ain't half bad either:awethumb:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19333896 - 12/27/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice to see this written up in its own thread. :thumbup:

What's the fertiliser ratio? Half? Quarter strength?

Might do up a test hydro pot and try it out under my stone age fluorescents....:tongue2:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19333954 - 12/27/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looking good Anne. The holes in the lids thing looks like a good system.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: psi] * 7
    #19334032 - 12/27/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Is it only me, or do the scions look mostly undeveloped?  After 75 days under "subpar" normal florescent or MH/HPS there should be at least 2-3 row of ribs developed.  These only appear extremely bloated (as we see with overwatering similar graphs in soil), and do not actually appear to be growing that well to me.  I guess we'll see after a few more months...

Edit:  I would also like to add that none of these are ascetically pleasing to me... in the least.  I am not trying to belittle your style, and think experimentation like this is great.  I'm just still not sold yet...


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: karode13]
    #19335514 - 12/28/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Great thread, Anne. :thumbup:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: hookahhead] * 4
    #19335567 - 12/28/13 04:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

hookahhead said:
Is it only me, or do the scions look mostly undeveloped?  After 75 days under "subpar" normal florescent or MH/HPS there should be at least 2-3 row of ribs developed.  These only appear extremely bloated (as we see with overwatering similar graphs in soil), and do not actually appear to be growing that well to me.  I guess we'll see after a few more months...

Edit:  I would also like to add that none of these are ascetically pleasing to me... in the least.  I am not trying to belittle your style, and think experimentation like this is great.  I'm just still not sold yet...




For comparison, this is 75 days growth after grafting from seed, under CFL, zero leaves left on the pereskiopsis, and it is in soil.



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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Mostly_Harmless] * 1
    #19336102 - 12/28/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly... Looks similar or slightly better (my opinion) than Anne's and hers was from a pup not seed...


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: hookahhead]
    #19336574 - 12/28/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hi anne. Nice work. Taking a seat on this one. I wish I had some peres to graft on


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: tizoc4u]
    #19337092 - 12/28/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Great stuff Anne :thumbup:

Keep up the good work


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19337143 - 12/28/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19337439 - 12/28/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mm mm mm Lophy-pops........


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19337479 - 12/28/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Would be very nice to got large numbers of similar grafted plants.. I'm just think are these good if I'm on the road long time and no one care plants?
One reason why I am no much into hydro-pereskiopsis is maintenance of them.

I'm just very lazy to even grow cannabis or any similar plants in hydro.:lol:
Once I tried hydro cannabis, never again! Just too much work for one plant.. :eek:

Seems you have enough enthusiasm to grow peyote with pereskiopsis.
How long it takes from seed to flower? (I'm interested of growing some seeds from own plants with pereskiopsis grafting)

Would be fun to try for serious but I am too lazy with watering or maintenance of watering and fertilizing.

I'm not expert of pereskiopsis at all so I would ask can you left these alone for long time without care..? How long is too much for hydro-pereskiopsis before stock plant dies to drought, can loph scion help to keep pereskiopsis stock alive longer time compared to same size pereskiopsis without no scion?

Only I know about drought and pereskiopsis I succeed to keep alive pot of pereskiopsis plants by leaving the pot sit above the tray of water before I left from home. Also one survivor was preskiopsis with loph scion on it. Rest of pereskiopsis was died to drought.. I suspect loph scion have something to do because everything was same except one had scion attached on it.

Annie is this possibe? can lophophora scion improve pereskiopsis dry tolerance or do I had some luck?

I'm just curious, how long these can tolerate drought at growing season?

Before I start even think anything like this I would want to know can I grow these like normal cacti and hit the road without care of watering.
Do annie have tested (or have any information) about how long drought pereskiopsis with scion can endure before stock die? Can scion as "water storage" keep the pereskiopsis stock alive longer time compared to pereskiopisis without scion? :tongue2:

Do you have any other lophs? ...fricii, koehresii, diffusa? pics from flowering season?
:dancer:

Nice job, you have really put money and effort to grow peyote :thumbup: ...I'm too lazy for growing like that but would be fun to observe your work.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19342194 - 12/29/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

hmmmmm..........




i dont think their is alot of doubt,
that  annie can grow big ones in dirt, or hydro DWC, or rockwool,
under CFL. LED / or tube flouros, or sun,
clones, seeds, re roots or naturals.
even forests full......scale.
and ,that we have rulers.



this is all, old teks to us,
and not the point of this exercise.
this exercise is about hyper crop efficiency.

we present,
the idea of small rapid bio mass hydro hyper gardens,
using water, NPK, PP5 and LED light.



we suspect max speed is about 2 cm month.
once ya hit that, it becomes about efficiency/ biomass/ space/ energy/ weight/ lights.
thats the point  for this thread..
we routinely clip along 1.7+. cm.
if were beat by a day and a percent, we wont die.
were into crop averages, and clones differences.

testing the old teks to their limits in general,
we realized things needed juiced up to annie speed.

observe.......



the typical dirt pereskiopsis.note the roots.
the roots, and the leaves........
this is baking under about 340W tube t-8 flouro 6500k.
they grow fast, but heat, light and space, make it a joke.
and the peres dont get fat.



note the tubs, thats about as dense as ya can get em.
and note the weeds.....lol.
you think you wont get weeds on a sustainable large dense crop?
lol.


a way around this is rockwool......note density



ya still have the same light issues though.....
and those that dont understand rockwool nuances, are in for nasty surprises.
it works, but has issues fer sure...



tubes get around all the soil issues.
but, limit root size, and ya have handling and light issues remain.



flasks are fantastic, but poor surface area, and height/ space issues.
they beat the root size issues though.



as you can see , alot of commonly used teks,
clearly have size, weight, space, power, handling, contam, , sustainable crop issues.


the answer, is obviously PP5 cup with drilled lid,
handling, safety, good root set , and allows for versatility in lighting.

next 2 pics....
LED hydro cup garden and dirt garden with tubes.



dirt garden weighs 3x, uses 2x electric, double heat, has all its dirt issues, and can only do about 60% capacity of PP5 cups in same a footprint 1.5x!

translation, team annie way= less space, way less weight, way less power, way less heat way more lophs .....+/- known max speeds.



so guys , should be obvious.
want lots fast on a shelf? thats how ya do it.


if ya want one in a clay pot languishing,
or a few grafts in your potted collection,
ignore this tek.

alot of teks enable you to grow lophs.
this tek is aimed at those that want alot of lophs fast on a shelf.

note also.......
cuttings from XHTTL , youll note they are quite dense, and very thick skinned.
fully hydrated, but no more than a fully hydrated natural.
and very chloro green.

 

i suspect were as true to form as we need to be,
re root one of them to the top red line,
hibernate a season in a clay pot, and most would think its.........

in the new age, you can do these things.




note : hookah......
grow some hydro, well talk.
im not too concerned with your aesthetics otherwise.


Edited by anne halonium (12/29/13 05:11 PM)


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19342269 - 12/29/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have never in my life:awesurprise:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19342273 - 12/29/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anne, do you notice a significant difference in scion growth speed on Pereskiopsis with full set of leaves, compared to those without any? I've always wondered how much impact would removing the leaves and areoles have.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Tangich]
    #19342318 - 12/29/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:awesurprise: is a team annie cornerstone.

allow me once again........



as for leaves......
ill suggest you can do good without, but its better if ya have em.



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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium] * 4
    #19342808 - 12/29/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

All this crazy talk is making my penis soft.:angrykidface:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19342914 - 12/29/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

variations of lighting  color and lighting angles,
can create shapes , and shows strain variations.




or.....



you can just generate lots of little re roots in a pot.



it works....
lots fast, with low power, low heat, low weight subs, and durable easy handle containers, custom shapes , custom sizes,
stealthy , mobile, affordable and reliable,
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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19343019 - 12/29/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:
variations of lighting  color and lighting angles,
can create shapes , and shows strain variations.




or.....



you can just generate lots of little re roots in a pot.



it works....
lots fast, with low power, low heat, low weight subs, and durable easy handle containers, custom shapes , custom sizes,
stealthy , mobile, affordable and reliable,
in the new age.




:awewtf:

Hey, what is supposed to be the end result or are have you just gone mad?


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19343036 - 12/29/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

combination of this tek, skill,strain selection,
and light mods with experience.
i can grow any shape i want, by the hundreds.....in a few months.



should be obvious.
scroll back if ya missed it.
dirt or hydro, multi lighitng types.
the effects , a mystery to many,
are now predictable from my work.

i offer this info,
so others may grow lots fast,
in any shape they want also.

its the age of the designer hyper hydro lophophora.



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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium] * 1
    #19343046 - 12/29/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I will never understand why somene would want to grow for other than natural looking peyote.

But to each their own.:shrug2:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19343053 - 12/29/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Three questions, for starters:

What's the dilution of the fert, Anne?
Do you use any supplement of trace elements?
How about flowers, do you get that with your lighting setup? Or would one need another type of spectrum and / or light cycle to induce it?

Thank you. :smile:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium] * 4
    #19343054 - 12/29/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:



In the new age, all cacti will etiolate.




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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19343061 - 12/29/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

hookah i scanned your threads, your a worm farmer. step off.

and , do share with us etoliation in the photo below.
fact is, you have no clue.




dont care if ya understand or not really.
didnt expect ya to.
you dont have any experience with the topic.

most of the readers are " getting it" though.


slander as the mods allow........
but really, most of this stuff is on my blog in various forms already.
so too late, cant slam the door on water lophs.

as for ferts, 10-10-10 and tap water.....7+ PH.
flower with light drop then long increase.



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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19343075 - 12/29/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

anne halonium said:
hookah i scanned your threads, your a worm farmer. step off.

and , do shrae with us etoliation in the photo below.
fact is, you have no clue.


dont care if ya understand or not really.



didnt expect ya to.

most of the readers are " getting it" though.




I get it. I just dont see the point.

Grow on then.:congrats:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19343080 - 12/29/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your right my dear friend, worms are all I raise...  I don't understand why you have to be a complete and total bitch to everyone here about everything?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18997896#18997896

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18896410


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If someone doesn't want your LIGHT, shine it some where else.  Everyday there are people who LOVE, ACCEPT, and LOOK FORWARD to making CONTACT with you.  YOU are capable of GREAT THINGS even if you feel neglected or mistreated in OUR current SPACE.  Change your ways, change our WORLD, there is SAFTEY in NUMBERS.  Welcome to the PRESENT. ~ 144,000 Anonymous Voices

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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19343092 - 12/29/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i think your busted.....
ive been most polite, and informative, with pictures.

you have offered zero of substance to this thread.

step off, or ill comment on worms.



like how your a worm on my thread.

lets not allow the usual crashers to spoil the show.......
more to come, and details as to why we do things this way.

all this is based on my original HTTL work.



developed over a decade ago.....





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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19344180 - 12/29/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Keep the HTTL comin Anne.

Maybe this summer when my apartment doesn't get too cold I can start up some of these guys.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #19344200 - 12/29/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why do you use 10-10-10 specifically?  Have you experimented with different ratios and types of fertilizer? 
I hear and see what you are sayin about replicating numbers.  I personally like the appearance of your earlier soil grown buttons.  Maybe its the different light spectrum?  I don't know. :confused:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19345129 - 12/30/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good stuff Anne.  Very interesting.  Hat tipped to your team.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: verbage]
    #19345662 - 12/30/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dirt garden weighs 3x, uses 2x electric, double heat, has all its dirt issues, and can only do about 60% capacity of PP5 cups in same a footprint 1.5x!

translation, team annie way= less space, way less weight, way less power, way less heat way more lophs .....+/- known max speeds.




How did you arrive at these claims.
Dirt garden weighing 3 x your way : Is this based on 6 inch clay pots with one graft in each. Give us some real weights and sizes of your containers and weights with grafts and full water.
Double electricity usage : What sort of total wattage are you using per square foot of grow area.
Double heat: I don't see an issue with heat. It actually helps to have heat generated by your lights as you don't have to heat in winter.
How many grafts are you growing per square foot and how do you change the water in the cups and you say you do this every ten days. Do you need to top them up in between.

I am all for innovation but claims about performance over other growing methods need to be backed up with facts other wise it is just a show not a grow.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19345779 - 12/30/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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other wise it is just a show not a grow.




its a better "grow show" than you gotz, if ya wanna reduce it to that.
keep it up, and ill publish a series of pics,
detailing  fungi, dirt, PH , lighting issues, and root problems,
and ill ask the readers to scan your threads for matching examples.
and, thats entertianment.

it should be pretty obvious goonthen....
scroll back,
gallon buckets vs 8 pints HALF full of water.
we will call the plastic containers a wash....
LED lights , half energy and heat. DUH.
and i doubt ya exceed this density in any farm your propping up.
and,
if your using lights to heat the place,
the most inefficient way to heat known,
my condolences on your electric bill and grow engineering.

alot of us dont live in the high tundra goonthen.
some peeps pay an electric bill.



these are half size, , ya gotta give em some head room.
head size, in my garden is pretty much the foot print limiter.
PM me if ya get close to that.

*note your graft contest and loph growers unite thread.
this grow was time stamped in front of your face.
i got the pics, i got the rulers
my shit is time stamped all over the web.

( were wise to that angle now goonthen, too late)

come up with something better.
ill need to see a better grow from you goonthen,
before ill entertain you beyond the obvious.
dont make me get the neem spray bottle out.


more to come.
naturally , were gonna detail some stuff.
alot of details, in chapter segments.
i want the readers to learn this.
lucy will be splainin between dabs fer sure.



in the new age. some teks raise the bar.
:rabble:

haters are weak today, lovers strong.:heart:
special thanks to TA, and all those who make it possible.

my apologies for the distractions.
its well known peeps try and settle petty scores ,
by attacking my teks with distortion, and selective biased analysis.
hopefully the mods will curb the worst abusers.

of course, im a cunt .
but, im a cunt with a dynamic grow, and the peeps want the show.


stay tuned.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium] * 4
    #19346005 - 12/30/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



The picture on the left is etiolated and the picture on the right is a part of the tap root. They have nothing to do with each other. Putting them into one image with red lines, will not change that.  I am sure you have an ad hominem about why I am wrong.

Troll on, or carry on trying to prove something that nobody ever said was impossible. Whatever you are doing, you seem to be proud of it so that's cool. However, I would bet most of my cacti collection that you are autistic :shrug:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Big L]
    #19346047 - 12/30/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Please, let us not personalize any discussion.

Keep the focus on the plants/teks/etc.

This goes for all, the OP included.

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    #19346128 - 12/30/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Why do you use 10-10-10 specifically?  Have you experimented with different ratios and types of fertilizer? 








That is pretty funny :thumbup:


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    #19346160 - 12/30/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wasn't meaning any disrespect. I know a guy who is autistic, so it's cool.  :cool::cig:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Big L]
    #19346225 - 12/30/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome tek with great pics, thanks for sharing!


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Big L]
    #19346229 - 12/30/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I rolled my eyes at you BigL :rolleyes:

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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Big L]
    #19346294 - 12/30/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The picture on the left is etiolated and the picture on the right is a part of the tap root. They have nothing to do with each other. Putting them into one image with red lines, will not change that.  I am sure you have an ad hominem about why I am wrong.

Troll on, or carry on trying to prove something that nobody ever said was impossible. Whatever you are doing, you seem to be proud of it so that's cool. However, I would bet most of my cacti collection that you are autistic :shrug:





:lolsy:

faux news as ya like.
i suspect the general public sees thru ya big L......

pic pretty much proves the point.
your misinfo take, says more about you. than it does the pic.

big L is a good name for ya .
spread laughable distortion somewhere else..

no interest in a fight on the OBVOIUS.

stay tuned.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19346301 - 12/30/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wasn't meaning any disrespect. I know a guy who is autistic, so it's cool.  :cool::cig:



:horly:

:ilold:
My wife works with the psychotics. Autistic included. I dont think she is autistic, maybe ADHD but not autistic.

Anywyas her methods are very unorthodox.  Really fast real quick? Its like an infomercial.  For as much as people knock it,  the ones on here that are new aand looking to get "high" would definitly buy this setup. I can hear it now,

"Hey man this chick on the shroomery said if I buy $1000 of dollars worth of equipment I can grow 100  peyote buttons every month we can eat. Its gonna be so rad" said the college student growing In a closet.

Anyways I dont think she has ever mentioned eating it  but  no one grows like that  just to grow like that. Maybe a survival method or apocalypse in mind.

Hey anne, why dont you do a different genus? And why dont you add some stronger lights?


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19346328 - 12/30/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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  the ones on here that are new aand looking to get "high" would definitly buy this setup.

Hey anne, why dont you do a different genus? And why dont you add some stronger lights?





concept is intended for cloners.
and breeders needing high output of any type cacti.

dual use for hedonism would be up to practioners.

may not appeal to noobs, as it requires some skill.
otherwise ,
half the whiners on this thread would have done it already.

so let me get this straight, cuz the tek is so dramatic,
it may draw peeps that want high output farms?

:lolsy:
i would never have guessed. how awful.
i cant imagine this compliant happening to you guys.

you guys are reaching.

as or the lights?
do ya have any clue what  LED 7500k+ @ 1 foot @ 150+W does to a plant?
i do.
in a day or 2, were gonna show outdoor vs indoor pereskiopsis.
then youll know also.

stay tuned, im in and out, more to come.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: Big L]
    #19346344 - 12/30/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The picture on the left is etiolated and the picture on the right is a part of the tap root. They have nothing to do with each other. Putting them into one image with red lines, will not change that.  I am sure you have an ad hominem about why I am wrong.




I would say a substantial portion of what is between those two lines in the 'natural' pic is actually underground stem tissue rather than root tissue (the part that is more uniformly conical.) It's certainly possible to grow them fatter than that under different lighting regimens though as we all know. I've seen other pics of Anne's where plants with a much flatter traditional looking aesthetic were grown under mostly blue light. Personally I prefer the fatter aesthetic but I can see the appeal of columnar style growth somewhat from a propagation perspective. A columnar growth habit may (?) result in more areoles per gram of biomass, and each areole is a potential new growing tip.

IMO a lot boils down to preference and individual circumstance. LED has potential to be very power efficient because you're not wasting energy on useless parts of the spectrum, but you have to weigh the power savings against the relatively high initial cost. I'm not convinced it's right for my needs at this time personally, but I would certainly be interested to try it out when I can spare the cash. There are also a lot of shitty products on the market from what I gather.

The deep water culture thing seems finicky for my neglectful growing style but I can see the potential for packing a lot of scions into a given space. With the seedling trays I use there is a lot of wasted space. A 2" grid means they can grow to that diameter before they touch, but for the bulk of the time they're on the grafts they are nowhere near that size. In a shared soil space they can be packed to arbitrary density but then transplanting is a hassle when they get big enough. I can definitely see the appeal of just drilling holes at arbitrary spacing in the lid of a plastic container.

Substrate mass is something that you may or may not give a fuck about depending on your circumstances. With a flood and drain type setup you may not have to move your plants much at all so the weight is kind of immaterial. Someday I'd love to have a fully automated flood and drain setup for cacti but it's also not in my budget right now. I do things manually so the weight is a big factor.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: psi]
    #19346347 - 12/30/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:cookiemonster:

the voice of an experienced scale graft grower.

your always a favorite psi.:heart:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19346348 - 12/30/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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  the ones on here that are new aand looking to get "high" would definitly buy this setup.

Hey anne, why dont you do a different genus? And why dont you add some stronger lights?





concept is intended for cloners.
and breeders needing high output of any type cacti.

dual use for hedonism would be up to practioners.

may not appeal to noobs, as it requires some skill.
otherwise ,
half the whiners on this thread would have done it already.

so let me get this straight, cuz the tek is so dramatic,
it may draw peeps that want high out put farms?

:lolsy:

you guys are reaching.

as or the lights?
do ya have any clue what 7500k+ @ 1 foot @ 150+W does to a plant?
i do.
in a day or 2, were gonna show outdoor vs indoor pereskiopsis.
then youll know also.

stay tuned, im in and out, more to come.



Other genus too are in high demand. Maybe ariocarpus or astrophytum. You would definitly win with aztekium.

You should do hydro but outside under a shade cloth. I bet you would get extreme size with a bit more natural look. Fuck, I may even try this, I like the speed but the way they look under them crazy lights is not my cup of tea.

I think I would do a solution with more phosphorus.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19346374 - 12/30/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

we actually have other ones on the blog. ( link below)
not really interested in other types,
one type is good to test variations in concept with clones.

were essentially equal growth indoors under LED now.
we have grown outside.
forests are attacked by pests in hours.
and it negates the indoor advantage of stealth.

as with all DWC , solution is tricky.
there may well be better nute mixes.
i have a post planned on this.

ATM we concentrate on proof of concept,
and practical usage with minimal easy supplies.

im sure as time goes on, it will become a nute contest.

this is not
" oh , evolve into dirt / clay pots in a window."
bzzzzzzt.
annie knows that one.
this is, " grow fast, grow now, minimal supplies, no prisoners"

its the annie difference :thumbup:


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19346432 - 12/30/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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..were essentially equal growth indoors under LED now.
we have grown outside.
forests are attacked by pests in hours.
and it negates the indoor advantage of stealth.
....





I dont think you equal the growth of outdoors because it's slower. You mean you speed it up. Anyways I think you should visit www.xerohpilia.ro and download the stone eaters pdf. Wonderful insight into how nature works. I wrote up a thread too. Your "forests of plants" get decimated because they grow weak. Do you add anything to strengthen the immune sytems of said plants? Any hormones?


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    #19347222 - 12/30/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I too would like to know the end game of merely cloning the same lophs over and over by grafting/regrafting pups endlessly, and having a bunch of water-filled lophs that are gigantic but have very little dry substance to them at all, very little genetic diversity, all for what?

To have the most lophs, visually? I mean visually because I guarantee if one were to dehydrate all of ferrel's lophs, or anyone else's here for that matter, and compare it to the entirety of all of the lophs you've got, your dry weight would be dwarfed in comparison.

I'm honestly not trying to flame or anything here, but these HTTL threads are beginning to seem like a desperate ploy for attention. All of the holier than thou talk, condescending anyone who disagrees with anything you say has just been spread from forum to forum now. All with the same result: people disagree, you condescend and talk about "team annie this" and all of your other self-indulgent terminologies you personally invented, people get pissed and you act like you're being attacked. I've watched this happen like some sort of insane cyclical event, over and over. What's that old phrase about insanity, trying the same thing twice and expecting different results, right?

There's an old saying, goes something like "If you think everyone in the world is an asshole, you're the asshole"

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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: theMallacht]
    #19347353 - 12/30/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

indoor dirt and rock wool forests are lost because of pests and environmentals.
fact is , some of the forests , were lost by size alone.
this is why we developed this tek....to avoid all that, and still get output.

i havent seen a HTTL forest collapse.
greatest danger, is heads breaking from size and handling.


HTTL forests arent lost easily unless ya fuck up the water.
thats the point.

done right, peres can last years in water.

not interested in stones in the least,
those interested in experiments beyond my work, best of luck.
i do what i do, and report.
if it exceeds a frame of reference, what can i say.?

i grow hormone free.
its a skill ,NPK , light, and water game here.


in case anyone misses the side point here,
and before i continue,
i challenge anyone to the  exceed system as presented,
for speed, biomass, sub size/ weight/ power consumption and sustainability..........

should be easy guys,
seeing as how im telling ya how i do it with pics even.

more to come, and details.
i still consider this the " opener"
and, youll need to understand this,
before i teach ya the latest tek......." aerophora",
wich actually, blows this tek down IMO.

in the new age.
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I too would like to know the end game of merely cloning the same lophs over and over by grafting/regrafting pups endlessly, and having a bunch of water-filled lophs that are gigantic but have very little dry substance to them at all, very little genetic diversity, all for what?






^yawn.



they are no more hydrated than a fully hydrated loph.
and they are quite dense.
the water balloon myth was exploded a while back.
what , ya dont think i ever dried any? or ran an A/B?...lol

as for clones?
maybe your world works like that, mine doesnt.
we have over 30 clones types ,
selected from over 20k seeds over 15 yrs.
some have been cloned and re cloned ,
and re rooted over years, with no apparent genetic loss.

i clone alot, for crop consistancy.
no rule says anyone can random seed a phorest.
thats another option in the new age.

oh, and as for insanity,
i think your talking about everyone else replicating old teks,
and trying to fantasize, they out run HTLL.
something possible , only for those who havent tried it.

if anything mallacht,your here for the attention.
im presenting a tek, your not.

ive noticed the fungi peeps do that alot also.


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    #19347376 - 12/30/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am not being confrontational, I just want to discredit " your" method. All In a civilized manner.:wink:


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    #19347387 - 12/30/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

good luck, youll need more experience first.
cant discredit, what ya dont understand, .....or cant do.

this tek is almost a decade old.
im sorta shocked ya all didnt give up the fantasy long ago.

once again, beat it, and prove it.
its a cold challenge.

someone eventually will sooner or later.
pry wont be you ferrel.

PSI, stands a chance though.
hes one of the best growers here.
pure genius.........
i wish he would show ya all his secret pics.

more to come, im actually in the middle of a party ATM,
so , it may take a day till im back with my main hard drives to continue...........happy new yrs BTW.


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    #19347450 - 12/30/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Experience? Lol... Ferrel has more experience growing true cacti in his pointer finger than you have in your entire being.

You know Anne, it's funny how you always completely ignore when others make criticism, albeit constructive or not, towards the outright cocky and arrogant way you conduct yourself. It's almost like you're just one of those people that has a hyper-inflamed sense of self importance, and won't listen to any kind of reason at all.

You would be much easier to handle if you at least weren't a bitch about it, as someone eloquently said above.

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this tek is almost a decade old.




EXACTLY my point! So why are you still trolling around from forum to forum and introducing it like it's the most unreal, new and exciting thing to ever hit gardening/horticulture since the hand trowel?

Quote:

we have over 30 clones types ,
selected from over 20k seeds over 15 yrs.




Who exactly is "We"., I have asked this before as well, and been ignored. Who exactly is "team annie" and these supposed people you've had working for you, doing a menial, pointless, task for 15 years?


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    #19347509 - 12/30/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So many questions, so few answers lol.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: theMallacht]
    #19347538 - 12/30/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

theMallacht said:

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Experience? Lol... Ferrel has more experience growing true cacti in his pointer finger than you have in your entire being.

let him prove it then, with a grow tek,
hes at a loss attacking my tek it seems.


You know Anne, it's funny how you always completely ignore when others make criticism,

i only ignore peeps with no experience with my work who pose from armchairs

You would be much easier to handle if you at least weren't a bitch .
you mean easier for you to dominate with your limited experience.

Quote:

this tek is almost a decade old.




EXACTLY my point! So why are you still trolling around from forum to forum and introducing it like it's the most unreal, new and exciting thing to ever hit gardening/horticulture since the hand trowel?

it is , with the newset updates


Quote:

we have over 30 clones types ,
selected from over 20k seeds over 15 yrs.




Who exactly is "We"., I have asked this before as well, and been ignored. Who exactly is "team annie" and these supposed people you've had working for you, doing a menial, pointless, task for 15 years?




"We".i credit my research and support team.
if you dont creidt yours, its rude...........



mallacht , didnt i dismiss you on that dead topia forum?

offer something beyond your take on me,
like , um something constructive about the grow for instance.

trying to party here, and you guys are just gonna HAVe to do better.

for those not in fantasy land, more to come, and details also.


oh super D , my least favorite admitted noob troll.
your right, you have lots of questions.
and no answers........
STFU and learn something....
in a few yrs, ya might be able to grow.


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    #19347551 - 12/30/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:rofl: I'm not here to troll you but I am here to report posts that violate the forum rules.  So do exercise a little caution while partying.  Happy new years by the way.  One of these days you'll pay closer attention and realize I am a grower and have been growing for years now. 


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347563 - 12/30/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

GOOD.
REPORT YOURSELF FOR CRASHING A THREAD OFF TOPIC.


mods, show this zero contribution character super d. the door.

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SuperD said:
I am a grower and have been growing for years now. 




:lolsy:
your an admitted noob.

last time ya tried this,
ya trotted out a sad diseased loph ..........
i actually felt bad for ya , and PM'ed a mod,
and said i was embarrased for ya.
i felt like i shot a kid or something.


i have a party to attend.
slander and distort on, ill catch up,
the tek has survived several forums and a decade.
youll have to do more to to soil this water tek.

stay tuned ........then more details.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347594 - 12/30/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was actually curious as to what the answers to the questions posed above would be.  How that is off topic is beyond me.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347604 - 12/30/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

observe, as the tek continues, and learn the answers......:thumbup:



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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347612 - 12/30/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You'll have to refresh my memory on this diseased loph I trotted out.  Linking to the post would be most appropriate, if you have time.  I have two greenhouses full of lophs small and large and none diseased.  I think you may be mistaken in who you were talking to.  Party on.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347652 - 12/30/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Read the sig lady. From experience only. There is perils and pitfalls. Obviously you are perfect ma'am. Very well gott go hit up the true growers where the lophophora growers unite.

And Maybe I wont discredit it because I wont even bother to try with such a stupid method of growing cacti. WHO GROW IN FUCKING ROCKs. Hello!

A tek brought to you in part by a stupid rough neck. Nuff said. Bye bye jesus christ.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347667 - 12/30/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

we all saw it.
it appears it was deleted from the lophs unite thread.
lucky you.

i would have been most pleased to present it again.

also, buying cactus, doesnt make ya a grower.

now i party.....

:rabble:

ferrel......:facepalm:
if you gotz something worth seeing, PM me the link.
i fail see where your contributing here.





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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium]
    #19347691 - 12/30/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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we all saw it.
it appears it was deleted from the lophs unite thread.
lucky you.

i would have been most pleased to present it again.





I don't delete pics once I post them as you seem to do quite often, so again I must assume you have mistaken me with someone else.

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also, buying cactus, doesnt make ya a grower.




Well, you're right here so I'll give that to you on a technicality.  However, plenty of growers like myself do buy specimens to add to their collections whether for aesthetics or cross pollinating or a plethora of other reasons.  It would be foolish of you to assume that one only grows what seed is on hand without diversifying their collection at all.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD]
    #19347746 - 12/30/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i can use this method to replicate any collection from seed i want.
a massive collection, in months........
ill tell ya what,
if i order a catus fed ex,
ill consult with your expertise.

i know full well what your about.
and why several posts of yours were deleted in lophs unite.

ya wanna be a collector, fine.

this thread is about hyper hydro grafting,
and its crop management.
unlike my detractors, im attempting to stay on topic.

your opinion has been noted, along with your 5 minits of fame super d.



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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: SuperD] * 5
    #19347756 - 12/30/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly anne. You're picking on the wrong grower. Ferrel has grown a lot from seed, as has been evidenced here for many years. (UTFSE. You're the n00b here.) He's also helped many novice growers to start growing and offers sound advice. He does all of this with joy and no sense of pompousness in his posts.

Unlike yourself, who specifically came into this forum from the start with a poor attitude. This was because the mushroom growers here shat on you, some of it was warranted too. You continued with this shitty attitude until I stepped in, because I wanted to give you a chance here. Reading your blog made me regret giving you that chance...


All of this is getting old and it's starting to bring this forum down. Please everybody keep this about the OP and leave the petty bullshit out of this thread. Locking this thread is an option I'm considering. You guys don't need to prove shit to anybody, you're ethno gardeners, every single one of you. You all bring something to this forum and nobody is an expert, not even me.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: karode13]
    #19347791 - 12/30/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

he can grow as he wishes, he has zero experience in hydro grafting.

define noob?
these teks are at decade old published.

fact is,
peeps can grow as they wish.
dont attack stuff, ya dont have experience with.
he gets what he deserves.

they can defend themselves.

mods are welcome to trash anyone off topic.
thats the issue here.
and thats what the trolls/ posers are out for.

lock it, and watch all the details on my blog........
this is just the warm up, im still sitting on the aerophora tek.

frankly, im shocked the mods let off topic attacks rule the way they do.
its shameful.
if anyone should complain its me.

i start a thread NICELY, and posers attack and get trashed?
then IM the bad girl?
:lolsy:

peeps see it plainly .
i get letters daily on this.

ya want to kill off annie?
outgrow me without alot of bullshit.
ill die of a heart attack.

no one knows it all, never claimed i did.
i do know my teks though.
therefore, i am the standing experty in hydro grafting,
till proven otherwise.

see it here, or see it on my blog.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: karode13] * 1
    #19347829 - 12/30/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I never understood the anne holanium fuss, ....now i do. Wow.


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: 1234go]
    #19347832 - 12/30/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

its the first step, to understanding scale cacti grow power.
welcome..........


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Re: anne halonium X HTTL [Re: anne halonium] * 5
    #19347897 - 12/30/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Nobody threatens this forum or website.


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