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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19329631 - 12/26/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive sort of vowed to myself to not take or order these legal drugs off the internet or off the ground lol I haven't done that anyway but you get the point of what im trying to say. Whether its lsa, blue lotus, herb smokes. They are legal for a reason its either they haven't found out the true properties of the drug yet or its just bunk stuff that doesn't do anything or makes you sick. < Which that is the most likely reason. I wouldn't even mess with that if I was you.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: jtv56]
    #19329643 - 12/26/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

bleh i've done datura its pretty cool. 

the reason is because the potency of datura varies wildly.  Like, even plants next to each other can have wildly different potency.

Try to not kill yourself.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: circularvortex]
    #19329646 - 12/26/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't missed my id on the plant,it's actually impossible.
The seeds and the plant looks exactly like datura stramonium and about the medication...well,I stopped taking antipsychotics only to be sure that it's not their fault,but,before,I've taken antipsychotics+datura and I tripped,so,any other guess?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19329656 - 12/26/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well,I've got all the seeds out of the seedpods and mixed them to be sure,so,I've taken seeds from different plants,all in the same time,and nothing happened.
And I must clarify this,unfortunately I have pictures of my datura only on my phone: it is clearly datura stramonium and I get dizzy,I get the dry mouth,dilated pupils,but I don't hallucinate.
Why?
Do they have an extremely low potency? Should I take 1000?
I'm getting a bit nervous about this...


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19329676 - 12/26/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn,I forgot to mention something.
The datura plants had no leaves,there were only seed pods hanging out,I've found them in the start of december.

Might this drastically affect potency?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19332758 - 12/27/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think I've just realized something important and I need your opinion on it:

Green seed pods might contain the most potent seeds and brown/black seed pods that opened themselves are much less potent.Also,if the plant lost it's leaves,it means that it's dying and potency is clearly decreased.

Can this might be the answer of my datura seeds not making me hallucinate even though I take a sh*t load of them?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19332768 - 12/27/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've never taken seeds I've found from native plants but one's that I've ordered in the past worked fine.  :shrug:

Most people will probably have a bad trip and/or damage their body, mind, and soul on Datura.  Some of us view it as a powerful entheogen, however--a plant that deserves respect.  If you feel like risking it, start low and work your way up... SLOWLY.  See my journal for a Datura Stramonium report & more advice on preparation.  PM me for more info you want.

Good luck.  :sun:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: deCypher]
    #19332793 - 12/27/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Man,I don't want to sound proud,but I take datura for 6 months+ and I know what to expect from a datura trip,I'm just having some trouble with the last datura seed pods that I've acquired.
So,what do you think about the question that I asked above?

Also,how do you prepare the seeds?
Do you prefer making an ointment from them or..?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19332819 - 12/27/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Potency varies so wildly from plant to plant that I wouldn't even try to safely guess a correlation between color/age and potency.  Sorry man.

As far as preparation, check my journal entry for how I typically do it.  I recently acquired some interesting literature pertaining to legitimate ointment preparations, however... whenever I get around to experimentation I'll make sure to write up my results and recipes in a Shroomery thread.  :mushroom2:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: deCypher]
    #19332847 - 12/27/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You are doing a really great job,thanks man!! :thumbup:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19332873 - 12/27/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That was a really intense and vivid trip report deCypher. Thanks for posting it. I was truly taken back by it. :thumbup:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19332902 - 12/27/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I consumed a tea made from 2 seed pods of a Datura inoxia plant a few years ago and had similar effects with no hallucinations. The dryness was so awful I wasn't willing to increase the dose at all. Every part of my body that could be dried out was bone dry, mouth, eyes, nose. It was terrible and lasted a really long time. They could use that plant to torture people.

Never again...


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19332933 - 12/27/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore] * 1
    #19333078 - 12/27/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Grigore said:
Man,I don't want to sound proud,but I take datura for 6 months+




It's just an idea but...Maybe you have build some kind of ..tolerance to datura. Take a break...


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: dredge]
    #19333189 - 12/27/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes...that dry feeling,it's actually amazing,I drink water and don't even feel it touch my dehydrated throat,I can barely swallow.

Really weird and you had no tolerance to datura,right?

What about the plant...
When you got the seed pods,in late autumn/spring/summer?
Were the seed pods green or brown?
Were they open or the seeds were locked inside?

Do you remember these vital aspects?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: OpenQwerty]
    #19333194 - 12/27/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

dredge says he made tea from 2 seedpods and didn't hallucinate,tolerance might be something that I should consider but still,it's not the primary reason that renders me unable to hallucinate from some seeds that might be too old.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: jtv56] * 1
    #19333205 - 12/27/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They are legal for a reason.




So are alcohol and tobacco. Legality is nothing more than a politically fueled classification, often having nothing to do with the drug itself.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19333216 - 12/27/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

true,think about DXM,you buy it from the pharmacy,theoretically it's legal and it fucks you up very hard if you take a high dose or if you take it with grapefruit.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19333254 - 12/27/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Try the roots.


Seriously, though, don't!

Smoke a lot of weed and huff some nitrous, both are easily accesible. I lost my mind today on that combo.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #19333305 - 12/27/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Gonna try that,thanks xD


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