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InvisibleMystalicas
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Insanely bad trip from weed
    #19328405 - 12/26/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just woke up and i thought I'd share this while i still have the memories of what happened yesterday night.

So yesterday around 2AM i decided to get blazed, i rolled a joint and i smoked almost 75% of it in 1 session. BAD IDEA. it was about .2 or .3 of weed in that joint. So anyways i took those hits and after i felt it coming on i stopped. i lay ed in bed staring around my room. first thing i noticed was my body was falling in some kind of trance. i could nt feel my body it was as if i was an object laying there lifelessly. i felt that for maybe 10 minutes or so then it became worst then i could ever imagine.

I felt a complete head high coming on harder now. to me it felt like some entity was with me and it tried to possess me. i starting hearing voices all over my room which i was locked inside. these voices came from random places around my room. they sounded very evil. i also remember at one point i tried getting up but it was too intense. i ended up sitting on my desk feeling a total mind and body rape. A total uninvited violation by what ever it was. im going to refer "it" as the thing that was making me feel awful. It was 2am when it started happening it progressed from numbness to a feeling of a demonic presence. or i thought it was. in my head i could barely handle the chaos. i remember when i was little i had a feeling similar i would wake up screaming, back then it felt like a giant meteor beyond a comprehension of size slamming down on my mind. i know it sounds exaggerated but back then thats how it felt like. anyways i grew out of those strange night terrors. but yesterday night, it was close to that feeling again except it was like something was tearing or drawing all over my internals it would keep laughing like a maniac. it was just fear for the next 2-3 hours. i would tell it go leave me alone and i really thought it was a demon. since i heard it and felt it. i knew i was gonna survive but it was just agonizing to bare for 3 hours. i tried playing music or meditating it didnt work.
they were like waves every time i try to use my phone to search the web on how to stop it. it seemed to get angrier and would start raping my mind and body again. i was shaking and my heart felt like it was gonna explode. i ended up laying there praying for any possible relief from this hell in reality. so by the time it was 3:30AM when i checked my phone i decided to call a friend on skype to help drag me out of it. and immediately it came back it screamed in this frequency only my mind can hear. i reached for the call button my phone and as i get close to calling my friend it got more violent. it seemed to want me to not get help. the first call she didnt answer. so i messaged her skype saying "i really need your help. please". which i could nt spell either my entire body was shaking.

Now its about maybe 3:45-3:50AM she answered and i was whispering i could nt talk. my voice was taken away. i had to whisper to her that im feeling hell right now and i needed her to calm me down. i tried telling her to just stay on the end of the line while i battle these demons. but i could nt form the words. i ended up just saying "help i cant im stuck" in a more distorted way. she knew i was having a really  bad trip and she just kept telling me to say "this is only a hallucination" which didnt help much. the rest of the night i cant remember. but i do remember the skype call ended. and i layed in bed under my blankets. and i fell asleep.

This whole experience was what could be only described as physical and mental body and mind rape. it came uninvited it brought otter chaos to my world and surroundings. trapping me into a dark corner of hopelessness i thought i was being tortured by dark spirits cuz my house is somewhat haunted. but after that night im not smoking in a isolated room anymore and also do not smoke too much.

if anyone has had experiences like this please post. I'd give me less paranoia.

not sure if it was just me taking too much and being drawn into a deep trance or if that weed was laced. It felt so real, just pure fear and torment for 3 hours.. just glad its over..i never want that to happen ever again. but ill still smoke just gotta be more cautious


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #19328436 - 12/26/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your tolerance must be so low.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #19328550 - 12/26/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Mystalicas said:
when i was little i had a feeling similar i would wake up screaming, back then it felt like a giant meteor beyond a comprehension of size slamming down on my mind.

Same thing was happening to me when i was a child. I wonder what the f..k it was. Very awful feeling and its hard to describe.

And I had bad and scary trips on weed too. Especially when my tolerance was low, but newer had halucinations on weed.

Its ok. You just smoked too much. You dont have to smoke a whole joint if your tolerance is this low. Next time just take a few hits with some good homies and chill.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #19330228 - 12/26/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The simple answer is that, well you're inexperienced to psychedelics and mind altering substances.

That's not your fault at all. Weed can be frightening as fuck to somebody who has never tried psychs/dissociatives or has very low tolerance.

Once your tolerance builds, so will your comfort level with weed.

It's like skiing. If you ski down the biggest, steepest triple black diamond hill while you're a novice, you'll have a scary, dangerous, and potentially harmful experience. Once you familiarize yourself though, it'll be smooth sailing from then on.

If you ever want to experience what TRUE fear, insanity, and madness really feels like, try 10g dried mushies aha


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: PsychedelicLife]
    #19330493 - 12/26/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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PsychedelicLife said:
The simple answer is that, well you're inexperienced to psychedelics and mind altering substances.

That's not your fault at all. Weed can be frightening as fuck to somebody who has never tried psychs/dissociatives or has very low tolerance.

Once your tolerance builds, so will your comfort level with weed.

It's like skiing. If you ski down the biggest, steepest triple black diamond hill while you're a novice, you'll have a scary, dangerous, and potentially harmful experience. Once you familiarize yourself though, it'll be smooth sailing from then on.

If you ever want to experience what TRUE fear, insanity, and madness really feels like, try 10g dried mushies aha





This may not necessarily be the case. As someone who is a veteran weed smoker, I can attest to the fact that not only is the OP's tolerance probably low, but it could just be his brain chemistry. When I started smoking at the young age of thirteen, my highs from weed were always pleasant and happy. While I would get paranoid (of getting caught) at that age, it wasn't until around the age of 17 or 18 that I would get really introspective to the point of overanalyzing my whole life and becoming really depressed and anxious.

I'm 21 now, but since then, the enjoyable highs with weed have become fewer and farther between, even when my tolerance is higher. Having a higher tolerance will diminish the bad trips, but it won't necessarily get rid of them. It may be that you have stuff in your mind or life that is troubling you and you're not letting go.

Oddly enough, I can still take acid, mushrooms, and other psychedelics, but weed fucks my shit up  :noway2:

So Mystalicas, does any of this apply?


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: DennisWilson420]
    #19330698 - 12/26/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Weed makes me socially anxious but I've never had that bad of an experience with it. But I don take it with people anymore, fuck that. Unless I'm really cool with them.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #19331372 - 12/27/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you've had some sort of a weed-induced panic-attack. The pounding heart, extreme feelings of fear, shaking/trembling, wanting to call out for help etc are all symptoms of it.

I've had a similar experience not too long ago, also weed-induced. It's the main reason I switched over to hash a long time ago. Don't have access to that now unfortunately because of being in Japan for a couple of months. I'm lucky enough to have found some bud though.  :ganja:

Back on topic. There's only a couple of things you can do in this kind of situation. First of all you need to realize it's a panic-attack and you're not going to die (or being raped by demons lol).

The most natural way to get it under control is by doing breathing excercises, while lying on or in bed. Make sure you are in a warm place to keep the trembles under control, or take a warm shower first. Take deep breaths, focussing on long exhalations and having a little pause after each one. Make the pause longer after each exhalations. This is a way for your heartrate to decrease and make your body more comfortable (I think it helps your body release it's own natural endorphins). Personally I find mantra chanting helps even more, by making sounds (like ohmmmmm, niiii, baaaa, etc... whatever comes to mind and feels natural) during the exhalations. This has really helped me during my bad experiences.

Another, not so natural but easy way, is to simply take a benzo like xanax or valium (if you have it lying around), this will take the edge off in about 10\15 mins and makes your body relaxed. Downside to this is it makes you kind of numb (I don't like the effect so much) and also there is the risk of becoming dependent on the stuff. So I wouldn't recommend this but it's nice to have it lying around in case of an emergency (just the idea of having it can help tremendously).

The last thing, and this is probably the best advice. Try to prevent it from happening. Take it easy when you smoke, preferably smoke hash if you can get it, and most importantly don't make the mistake of hogging the joint until you feel it coming on, because it can (and sometimes will) hit you like a proverbial sack of bricks in the face. Just take one or two tokes, wait for a couple of minutes until it comes on, then decide if you want to toke more. Especially if your tolerance is low two or three puffs from a fat joint like you described usually is enough to get you on a nice high.  :nyan:

Hope this helps. Take care and happy blazing  :psychsplit:


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #19331437 - 12/27/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah weed can be nasty OP, in my option it has the potential for some of the worst expeirences. I've had many uncomfortable trips on LSD and a number on other psychedelics but nothing other than edibles have ever brought me to the sate of delusion, paranoia anxiety and insanity that good old mary jane has.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Dawks]
    #19331627 - 12/27/13 03:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP, I have felt that same way. Once. It was after 4 huge bong rips at the end of an 11 year tolerance break. I couldn't speak, was hallucinating, and I ended up puking my guts up. Woke up the next day, tried again. Got incredibly stoned, but no ill effects. Been stoned ever since lol.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Cosmic_Chieftain]
    #19332307 - 12/27/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've felt this before as well.  However it was from being in a haunted house that I made haunted through the idiotic use of hurling challenges into the void. 

Or so I thought, until I realized I had simply hypnotized myself to believe demons were fact whilst in Meditation.  I had created a problem when there never was one and tormented myself.  Now I only use that form of meditation/self hypnosis to enforce good, useful behaviors.

I try not to call it meditation but you do have to bring yourself to that body buzzing area that I only know how to get to through meditation. 


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: DennisWilson420]
    #19340967 - 12/29/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DennisWilson420 said:
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PsychedelicLife said:
The simple answer is that, well you're inexperienced to psychedelics and mind altering substances.

That's not your fault at all. Weed can be frightening as fuck to somebody who has never tried psychs/dissociatives or has very low tolerance.

Once your tolerance builds, so will your comfort level with weed.

It's like skiing. If you ski down the biggest, steepest triple black diamond hill while you're a novice, you'll have a scary, dangerous, and potentially harmful experience. Once you familiarize yourself though, it'll be smooth sailing from then on.

If you ever want to experience what TRUE fear, insanity, and madness really feels like, try 10g dried mushies aha





This may not necessarily be the case. As someone who is a veteran weed smoker, I can attest to the fact that not only is the OP's tolerance probably low, but it could just be his brain chemistry. When I started smoking at the young age of thirteen, my highs from weed were always pleasant and happy. While I would get paranoid (of getting caught) at that age, it wasn't until around the age of 17 or 18 that I would get really introspective to the point of overanalyzing my whole life and becoming really depressed and anxious.

I'm 21 now, but since then, the enjoyable highs with weed have become fewer and farther between, even when my tolerance is higher. Having a higher tolerance will diminish the bad trips, but it won't necessarily get rid of them. It may be that you have stuff in your mind or life that is troubling you and you're not letting go.

Oddly enough, I can still take acid, mushrooms, and other psychedelics, but weed fucks my shit up  :noway2:

So Mystalicas, does any of this apply?




There's different kinds of paranoia. The one you're describing has to do with marijuana elucidating your bottled up guilt and shame and shoving it in your face. When you're sober, your ego protects you from judging yourself harshly even though you might be a shitty human being. When you're high, the ego disintegrates to a certain degree and you evaluate yourself more critically and see your flaws straight up. It's like a mirror into your soul. I love this aspect of weed because it shows me exactly what I need to change.

The fear that OP is describing doesn't have anything to do with MJ making him feel guilty or bad about himself. Rather, the experience is psychedelically over-whelming for him and he feels dissociated and afraid because he's not accustomed to it. This fear goes away when you build up tolerance and familiarize yourself with the herb.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: PsychedelicLife]
    #19340991 - 12/29/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I personally prefer not to smoke weed when it makes me check the door as it was ringing every 5 minutes, but noone there  due to paranoia

voices is yet another reason to stop

never heard them yet, but I dont want to smoke to find out, know 3 people who hear them and 2 other who are schizophrenic
they all smoked weed I know
some of them smoked lots of weed/the strongest stuff
2 of them still smoke lots of weed, the rest dont, seems the weed helps their voices


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: lessismore]
    #19340999 - 12/29/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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mio said:
I personally prefer not to smoke weed when it makes me check the door as it was ringing every 5 minutes, but noone there  due to paranoia

voices is yet another reason to stop

never heard them yet, but I dont want to smoke to find out, know 3 people who hear them





If you're actually hearing voices when you're high, then you're either not smoking real marijuana or you're experiencing schizophrenia and you need to SERIOUSLY get help.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: PsychedelicLife]
    #19341012 - 12/29/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

how would you know if your MJ is real?
only if you grow it yourself

Ive had sprayed shit a few times, crap not cured right too
hash mixed with water/oil or so it felt etc.
even had fake hash once, with plastic in it looked like (hard as a brick... couldnt even ignite it)

voices is possible, you can get voices on any psychedelic
it is your psyche often...

salvia can do it i.e., mushrooms can do it, lsd can do it
sometimes as voices, sometimes as thoughts/objects speaking to you

pretty far out when it happens, but possible on weed too I think
weed always gave me audible bell hallucinations, like a bell ringing or my door ringing
would always check the door, and look out, but noone there

then I quit ;-)  , but did smoke a lot

even had a temporary psychosis on weed (skunk)... faces everywhere looking at me for a few weeks
in every object, outside, in the bushes etc.
not pleasant faces, so I imagine the voices would be about the same, not pleasant

but then again I do believe they are demonic... from seeing the people affected by them


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: PsychedelicLife]
    #19341138 - 12/29/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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PsychedelicLife said:
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mio said:
I personally prefer not to smoke weed when it makes me check the door as it was ringing every 5 minutes, but noone there  due to paranoia

voices is yet another reason to stop

never heard them yet, but I dont want to smoke to find out, know 3 people who hear them





If you're actually hearing voices when you're high, then you're either not smoking real marijuana or you're experiencing schizophrenia and you need to SERIOUSLY get help.




I dunno man, I don't have schizophrenia (nor anything remotely like it) but I used to hear voices when I was younger and smoked marijuana all the time.

p.s. this was before synthetic cannabinoids and don't nobody "lace" dank-ass California herb. :pipesmoke:


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: hmmn]
    #19341179 - 12/29/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When i have zero tolerance, just a few hits takes me to a full on psychedelic trip.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Allisterem]
    #19341185 - 12/29/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Mystalicas said:

...first thing i noticed was my body was falling in some kind of trance. i could nt feel my body it was as if i was an object laying there lifelessly. i felt that for maybe 10 minutes or so then it became worst then i could ever imagine.

I felt a complete head high coming on harder now. to me it felt like some entity was with me and it tried to possess me




Your bad trips have nothing to do with your tolerance, it has to do with your interpretations of the situation. It's an internal problem and you can only blame your self for the bad experience. Instead of thinking that a demon is tearing your soul from your body, why not think that an angel is separating your soul from your body to show you something nice...just for a moment?

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The most natural way to get it under control is by doing breathing excercises, while lying on or in bed. Make sure you are in a warm place to keep the trembles under control,
Another, not so natural but easy way, is to simply take a benzo like xanax or valium (if you have it lying around), this will take the edge off in about 10\15 mins and makes your body relaxed




It's not under your complete control. You're dosed until it wears off and the best thing you can do is surrender yourself and think about the good.
A lot of people I know use tree to take the edge off. If you need to use something to take the edge off for something that takes the edge off there's something wrong. It's not the plant, it's you. You're not right for grass.

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Or so I thought, until I realized I had simply hypnotized myself to believe demons were fact whilst in Meditation.  I had created a problem when there never was one and tormented myself.  Now I only use that form of meditation/self hypnosis to enforce good, useful behaviors.




Yea it's like you walking down the street one night and you notice a guy following you. You speed up, he speeds up. You run, he runs. He catches you and you done shit you're pants. You're having a panic attack and then he says, "You dropped your wallet."


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Brandal24]
    #19341429 - 12/29/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like a horrible experience OP.

I think it might have been a panic attack. And if you were in your room all by yourself for hours on end, the voices may have been a result of not enough external stimulus. I sometimes hear things when I take a shower with the fan on + lights off. It's relaxing, but when I experienced a minor auditory hallucination I nearly shit bricks.

Weed can sometimes make people hallucinate, especially those with extremely low tolerances.

If you've been dealing with something similar to this experience your whole life, maybe some of the circumstances align - why did you experience night terrors when you were younger? Maybe some of those circumstances parallel to this experience?

I really don't know, I hope I was helpful in someway though. Sucks when a fellow human has to experience such horrible experiences. Good vibes


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #19415548 - 01/14/14 02:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well guys, i have stopped smoking since that night and i so far staying sober isnt that bad either. I acually made it my new years resolution to try and stay away from MJ for now.

I still a few buds left just waiting for someone to burn them. lol.

but what i didnt understand was why did i see these symbols all over my mind like scribble like things just running all over my mind as the "evil" in the back of my head.

I still havent interpreted what that bad trip could mean, because it didnt really show me anything other than heckling and mental imagery, for some reason my thinking was not affected i could think clearly except it was as if i was losing my mind and every time i reclaim my mind back i can function but then it slips back into the "evil" and it torments me once again. And all i could think of was getting help from someone to talk me out of the hell like trance. i remembered at one moment during that ordeal i acually prayed which might sounds ridiculous but thats what i tried because i was convinced it was an evil entity taking advantage of me since i was stoned.


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Re: Insanely bad trip from weed [Re: Mystalicas]
    #20256367 - 07/11/14 02:35 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yesterday I had a very enlightening experience, combining many of my previous beliefs and assumptions about the World with additions and a path through all the nonsense existent here. I had taken a shot off a chillum (my first in months) in a car and a friend was driving us to a place around 30 minutes from there. I entered a deep and painful head high and meditating got me to a trance-like state, and met an entity, in my mind’s eye. The entity showed me, through audial and visual hallucination, the spite of this corporal falsehood that is what life has come to, for most people, and that there are giant traps / loopholes where people get stuck and remain for their lives and re-incarnations. These traps are largely advertised and are immortalized by people who have seen the mortal benefits of being victims in these traps. They have been deluded, and have strayed from the path required for the evolution of our species with material wants and are striving in the opposite direction.

It showed me how these humans are not aware that they are in a cycle, and will do anything to prevent them from seeing the truth, and that there are other entities which are assisting them in this fruitless design. It did not tell me who or what they are, but hinted that I don’t need to know either.

It claimed that to keep our race on the right evolutionary path, and stop de-evolving, we as a race have to take certain precautions and paths. Since life and death is only a mask, we keep climbing the same mountain again and again, but each step adds to the collective human mind, and spirit. The aspects forwarding this are a prevailing sense of Love for everything, human creativity, kindness, and a hardworking attitude toward the ascension of our collective soul toward being in parallel with the One, the source of all energy.

Everything is simply everything, and our bodies are houses of creation, that can subjectively experience, and create this reality. Becoming actively involved with anything that is forwarding our ascension will advance us to the next step in the evolutionary ladder.

It gave me a sense of sight that I have never experienced in my life with any psychedelics. I could see great spirals of energy being drawn in various loopholes, like whirlpools, and dark magic energy on advertising billboards, and I could see matter changing in front of me and little vortexes of energy on everything living, going through the exact chain of life cycles which we are predestined to. I could focus on one vortex, and become completely part of it, and feel every little thing associated with it at once and get lost in this little vortex, only to be spiraled back into reality. It took away this sense, as soon as it gave it to me.

It later identified itself to me as Ceres (Ceresa?) which I found out is the Roman god of the Earth and Agriculture. Seems fit, owing that I smoked marijuana before this incident, however, it could be an hyper dimensional being mascarading.  I associate my frequent sightings of 1:12, or 2:23, 12:13, etc. to evolving and that the time has come for me, and this race to take a step in the ultimate’s direction.


I know all this sounds unbelievable, but Ceres explained things to me in a very calming manner, although I could never repeat exactly what she said, because most of it is un-translatable. In the end she provoked me to put what she showed me in words, so that’s what I did, hope I was as clear as I thought I was.


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