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what's considered real butter?
    #19331233 - 12/27/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I went to Walmart to look for real butter. Is Country Crock real butter? Is Land O Lakes real butter? I had bought a brand from Olivio since it is made with Olive Oil and I liked the nutritional facts. It has "real butter taste" on its cover. Usually that means it's not real butter, but has "real butter taste". Real butter does not have to say it taste like real butter. LOL. So what's considered real butter? Is this one of those things where there really is no such thing other than the taste of "butter" or something "buttery"? Kinda like an amber for example. The smell of it is the smell of amber but there's really no such thing as real amber. If that makes any sense.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19331281 - 12/27/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Real butter is marked as "butter".


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19331783 - 12/27/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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CLIT said:
I had bought a brand from Olivio since it is made with Olive Oil and I liked the nutritional facts. It has "real butter taste" on its cover. Usually that means it's not real butter, but has "real butter taste".



Haha, I'm not sure if I should facepalm now or smile at your playful way of making fun of the food industry and its tendency to regard the fabrication of mock products as a fulfillment of its perceived need to innovate endlessly :P
Anyway, at the risk of coming across as very gullible: real butter is made by churning milk (you know, the white stuff that comes from a cow's udders [and not from a bull!]) - the fatty lumps that float on top are butter, the remaining, low-fat liquid is buttermilk (another mystery explained). Butter can be made out of the milk from any mammal, but the vast majority of the butter consumed world-wide is made from cow's milk.

Since the late 1800s, scientists have experimented with making emulsions using vegetable oils that resemble butter. The main reason for this was an economic one: to be able to give the masses access to butter as a regular constituent of their diet at a reasonable cost, before it was possible to raise dairy livestock at the huge scale and ridiculously low costs of today.  Getting the taste right (i.e. close to proper butter) has always been a huge challenge, hence the emphasis put on labeling any sort of fake butter as tasting like real butter.

So butter based on olive oil, any other vegetable oil, coconut oil, etc. etc. is not actually butter. Still, 'fake' butter can taste really nice and is usually healthier than actual butter, due to its lower saturated fat content.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: koraks]
    #19331845 - 12/27/13 06:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

interesting considering the "butter" I bought is mostly made of various vegetable oils. Though it has buttermilk as ingredient. I think I'll try Country Crock next time. I think that's real butter?


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19332093 - 12/27/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Here is the legal definition "For the purposes of the Food and Drug Act of June 30, 1906 (Thirty-fourth Statutes at Large, page 768) “butter” shall be understood to mean the food product usually known as butter, and which is made exclusively from milk or cream, or both, with or without common salt, and with or without additional coloring matter, and containing not less than 80 per centum by weight of milk fat, all tolerances having been allowed for."

If you look at the ingredient list and doesn't conform to the above, it's not "real" butter in the US.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19332099 - 12/27/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19332383 - 12/27/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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CLIT said:
interesting considering the "butter" I bought is mostly made of various vegetable oils. Though it has buttermilk as ingredient. I think I'll try Country Crock next time. I think that's real butter?




:facepalm3:
Country crock is not real butter either. Anything in a tub is probably not butter for that matter. Stick with the rectangular blocks of sweet cream (salted/unsalted) butter. Normally sold in packs of four 1/4lb (1/2 cup) blocks.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: TheMaster]
    #19335120 - 12/28/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so those butter sticks are real butter? I've seen them sold in packs of 4 sticks.

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CLIT said:
interesting considering the "butter" I bought is mostly made of various vegetable oils. Though it has buttermilk as ingredient. I think I'll try Country Crock next time. I think that's real butter?




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Country crock is not real butter either. Anything in a tub is probably not butter for that matter. Stick with the rectangular blocks of sweet cream (salted/unsalted) butter. Normally sold in packs of four 1/4lb (1/2 cup) blocks.




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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19335672 - 12/28/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, but not all sticks (by far) are actual butter. Country Crock's sticks for example are also vegetable-based.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: koraks]
    #19335895 - 12/28/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You bought some kind of margarine. This is walmarts butter package.  Anything that is a spread or says margarine is not butter.  Cmon.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: CLIT]
    #19337278 - 12/28/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



:cookiemonster:

totally irrelevant but its pea butter


Edited by Corporal Kielbasa (12/28/13 02:34 PM)


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa] * 1
    #19337436 - 12/28/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

don't forget about ghee.  Clarified real butter.  A little of it goes a long ways though :wink:


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: j_db69]
    #19337519 - 12/28/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If it says butter it is butter if it doesn't it is not god dammit. :brushrage:


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19337655 - 12/28/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is what I call REAL butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html

"Organic Pastures butter is made from cold churned raw cream and nothing else, with no salt or colorings added." Lawl it's like $15/lb but SO WORTH it, the color is a deep gold and the flavor is superb.

Edit: It's from grassfed cows too


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19337757 - 12/28/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Butter and Bacon grease Are one of the four food groups.


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19340407 - 12/29/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Beautiful. Walmart do not sell these. I bought my "butter" from Walmart from a brand called Olivio. It's in the butter section along with the Country Crocks, etc.

If you all look at the description of this butter you linked, it's all the good things included that is real butter. This is what I was looking for. This is like comparing panaeolous to cubes. They're both psilocybin mushrooms but there's a difference in effect from what I had been reading here. I had only tried cubes. Tried to grow other more exotic types but no success.

Now you get me!

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This is what I call REAL butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html

"Organic Pastures butter is made from cold churned raw cream and nothing else, with no salt or colorings added." Lawl it's like $15/lb but SO WORTH it, the color is a deep gold and the flavor is superb.

Edit: It's from grassfed cows too




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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: daussaulit]
    #19356769 - 01/02/14 12:27 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Here is the legal definition "For the purposes of the Food and Drug Act of June 30, 1906 (Thirty-fourth Statutes at Large, page 768) “butter” shall be understood to mean the food product usually known as butter, and which is made exclusively from milk or cream, or both, with or without common salt, and with or without additional coloring matter, and containing not less than 80 per centum by weight of milk fat, all tolerances having been allowed for."

If you look at the ingredient list and doesn't conform to the above, it's not "real" butter in the US.



What's this 80% bullshit? :crankey:

Can manufacturers fill the other 20% with other crap?


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Re: what's considered real butter? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19356908 - 01/02/14 01:09 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Butter naturally contains things that aren't milkfat.  Butter is solidified fat from cream.  Margarine is all those strange butter-like substances.  Just buy butter.  It's cheap and good.  Or get ghee, which is equally milkfat but less cheap and perhaps gooder.


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