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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: Ethos]
    #19313519 - 12/22/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Again, I usually pride myself on being patient and tolerant but, you need a thick skin to hang out in cultivation. People who answer questions here answer a lot of them, many are the same question (so use the search engine :thumbup:) and in all fairness to any method someone may attempt to try for whatever reason, its best to learn with proven teks before branching out and experimenting. The reason for this is that doing a few grows with solid methods will give you a grounding in the mushroom life cycle, their needs, and be able to recognize and diagnose problems that are bound to arise when trying new things.

Here is the problem with going off tek or using an obscure method. When you run into trouble, no one can help. If your using a SGFC built to speck, with dunked and rolled cakes, we can spot right away if something is wrong with the setup. When we see the set up you posted, to our eyes the whole thing was wrong, and that was your problem. Maybe you live in an area with super high natural RH, but if I tried to use that thing you have in my house, my cakes would be dried out in 2 days and done. We try to give the best answers we can, in a general manner, so as to educate other people who creep these boards as well, thus helping many people at once.

If you want my advice on what to do now, I say fix your chamber so its a proper SGFC, birth those cakes out of the pots, dunk them for 24 hours and maybe a light roll, then set em on some small pieces of foil. Mist and fan 2-3 times a day, mist first then fan for 30 seconds. I guarantee that your results will be no worse than they are now, and will probably be far better.

I will admit that I am not much of a cake guy and rarely do them. But I have grown a few mushies and one thing I have learned is that good conditions give good results, poor conditions give poor results. Cubes are like weeds, so having one or two fruits is not a measure of an effective method. Good luck with your grow.


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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19313534 - 12/22/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If u think this was a rough one i advise u not to got to the otd


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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: cronicr]
    #19313539 - 12/22/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well said pastey


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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: Stromrider]
    #19330296 - 12/26/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a fairly new grower but I didn't struggle to understand the wisdom being imparted to me. When I posted for advice it was because I wanted to take it. When you posted here it was basically to show off how you knew better than the community because of some book you found(otherwise you would have taken the advice and not argued about it).  People are acting frustrated because you aren't showing enough humility IMO. For the most part, claims about improving on teks require one to show the goods, I.e, side by side comparisons of the two methods using isolates.


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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: sytar]
    #19330350 - 12/26/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sytar said:
I'm a fairly new grower but I didn't struggle to understand the wisdom being imparted to me. When I posted for advice it was because I wanted to take it. When you posted here it was basically to show off how you knew better than the community because of some book you found(otherwise you would have taken the advice and not argued about it).  People are acting frustrated because you aren't showing enough humility IMO. For the most part, claims about improving on teks require one to show the goods, I.e, side by side comparisons of the two methods using isolates.



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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: Ethos]
    #19330930 - 12/26/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Does anyone not read the previous post anymore? He is growing in vitro. You do not need cardboard or foil wrapped around the jars nor do you need a plastic bin. Mushroom will grow on the sides and form to the gaps. You need to make sure that the jars have holes in the lid and the jars need to be upside down but not on the ground. Air needs to be able to circulate, so put them on a screen off the ground or something. Also put the cake on a hollowed out Gatorade lid so its not resting on the lid blocking the holes. Growing in vitro in my experience takes longer to fruit as well as growing pe also take long than most cubes to fruit. If you search invitro growing you can find plenty of pictorials on the techniques I described above.


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Re: 16 Days and No Growth [Re: shroomnub4u]
    #19330948 - 12/26/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

your describing the chronic tek, this is not the chronic tek:smbfacepalm:

that is though and i'll tell you from experience they have lots of issues


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