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Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab?
    #19329806 - 12/26/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've, very fortunately, received the subtle blessing from local police and a fire/hazardous-chemicals crew, after being called to my location over somebody's concern, to continue pursuit of self-medical supply-production and treatment, objection and prosecution-free, due to circumstances of medical condition and reassuringly evidenced safe-storing and handling of involved materials. For various reasons, isolating and distancing this work will be a good thing for me, and I have some available space on a large enough lot, which is well enclosed, to build the separate space that would be needed

I'm thinking out a 2.5 - 3.5 room unit with power, comprising of a general-purpose room, general-lab room, and an exhumation corridor for strong gasses that have no reason to be stinking up work-spaces, but at the same time, that I don't want to be easily wafting into neighbors yards, or the noise of their releases creating questions from neighbors - despite believing that I'm thoroughly legally covered, and have audio-recorded permissions from police and fire crew, I don't want anything to be likely to create complaints or simply be a target.

A general-purpose room, general-lab room, exhumation chamber make up 2.5 rooms - and a ~8' square covered-porch is most probably to be attached.

Looking at a bare minimum 2.5 spaces needed, they would describe thusly:

General-purpose room - couch, table/chairs, small fridge
General-lab room - work-bench, lock-cabinets to store all materials and equipment used
exhumation/evaporation chamber (probably parallel to the far-side of the lab room) - a single counter to hold stinky or unpleasant reactions? I don't know, but perhaps something like an insulated 6 x 3.5' space, with one of its end 3.5' wall faces being a hinged door, so that after releases, it can be opened up to clear the space.

The unit would have running power, but most likely no bathroom, and no plumbing (which could be problematic for cleanup). Overall likely size: 325 - 375 square feet, prior to porch. Both main rooms to be well insulated - for use during all winter and summer temperatures (not expecting below 14f temperatures

I'm seeking suggestions to improve the concept - within practicality in mind, and not adding space beyond what's needed - and possible price-pegging for such a project.


Edited by something cool (12/26/13 10:43 PM)


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: something cool]
    #19329939 - 12/26/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If part of your need for a lab and production area requires temperature and environmental control consider utilizing thermal mass in your building construction design to help mediate temperature Congolese.  You can save a lot on heating and cooling that way.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: something cool]
    #19330084 - 12/26/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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something cool said:
I've, very fortunately, received the subtle blessing from local police and a fire/hazardous-chemicals crew, after being called to my location over somebody's concern, to continue pursuit of self-medical supply-production and treatment, objection and prosecution-free, due to circumstances of medical condition and reassuringly evidenced safe-storing and handling of involved materials. For various reasons, isolating and distancing this work will be a good thing for me, and I have some available space on a large enough lot, which is well enclosed, to build the separate space that would be needed

I'm thinking out a 2.5 - 3.5 room unit with power, comprising of a general-purpose room, general-lab room, and an exhumation corridor for strong gasses that have no reason to be stinking up work-spaces, but at the same time, that I don't want to be easily wafting into neighbours yards, or the noise of their releases creating questions from neighbours - despite believing that I'm thoroughly legally covered, and have audio-recorded permissions from police and fire crew, I don't want anything to be likely to create complaints or simply be a target.

General-purpose room, General-lab room, exhumation chamber make up 2.5 rooms - and a ~10' square porch with overhang is most probably to be attached.

General-purpose room - couch, table, small fridge
General-lab room - work-bench, cabinets to store and lock-up all materials and equipment used
exhumation chamber - a single counter to hold smelly reactions? I don't know, but perhaps something like an insulated 6 x 3.5' space, with it's rear-wall being a hinged door, so that after releases, it can be opened up to clear the space

Having running power, but most likely no bathroom. Overall size: 250 - 375 square feet, prior to porch.

I'm seeking suggestions to improve the concept - within practicality in mind, and not adding space beyond what's needed - and possible price-pegging for such a project.




Building permits?


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19330850 - 12/26/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As the unit would not be easily visible from any neighboring lot, and would subtract from any existing view, I'm hoping it would be a non-issue. I guess I'll otherwise explain it as a guest-house or special-interest study building that can be universally re-purposed - with, um, secret hallway stub for bonus tourist attraction - or why the blue-printer was fired.

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travelleler said:
If part of your need for a lab and production area requires temperature and environmental control consider utilizing thermal mass in your building construction design to help mediate temperature Congolese.  You can save a lot on heating and cooling that way.




Even higher up the importance-ladder for me, it needs to keep me comfortable and thermally-modulated to preference. Good thing of note!


Edited by something cool (12/26/13 10:50 PM)


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: something cool]
    #19331772 - 12/27/13 05:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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something cool said:
As the unit would not be easily visible from any neighboring lot, and would subtract from any existing view, I'm hoping it would be a non-issue. I guess I'll otherwise explain it as a guest-house or special-interest study building that can be universally re-purposed - with, um, secret hallway stub for bonus tourist attraction - or why the blue-printer was fired.

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travelleler said:
If part of your need for a lab and production area requires temperature and environmental control consider utilizing thermal mass in your building construction design to help mediate temperature Congolese.  You can save a lot on heating and cooling that way.




Even higher up the importance-ladder for me, it needs to keep me comfortable and thermally-modulated to preference. Good thing of note!




Get ready to have the building inspector show up after you are halfway through your construction, and back charge you including fines for not getting permits.  You may even have to demo it because it won't meet building codes.  Planning dept. likes to know when people build structures in their back yard as well.  Sometimes there are exceptions like a less than 200 ft shed but still you better check this shit out.  Sneaking around the rules will bite you in the ass on it.  Listen to Uncle Lunar don't be a goof ball.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19331786 - 12/27/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, it'd be more uncaring and willful defiance than it would sneaking, but I guess they might not appreciate the difference. I'll be sure to look into it if all-else comes together.

Are there estimations on what an excavated, concrete-lined basement space would cost for a 13 x 13' room? If it's cheap to do, oneself, it might be careless and wasteful to not just have it there for whatever.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: something cool]
    #19331792 - 12/27/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What are you talking about exactly? If it's growing magic mushrooms, then it's illegal and you'll be arrested regardless of what the police or fire department told you.

What they said to you means exactly nothing. It's illegal, you'll be arrested, end of story.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: nooneman]
    #19331803 - 12/27/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not necessarily. I guess not just myself, but the police also considered the explanation of apparently literal, definitely moral, but untested but legal justification (meaning a case that is not illegal and therefore legal), to leave it be. As for what you'll be arrested for, well, it won't be for something that police decide to not arrest you for, regardless of legal merit.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: something cool]
    #19332009 - 12/27/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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something cool said:
Well, it'd be more uncaring and willful defiance than it would sneaking, but I guess they might not appreciate the difference. I'll be sure to look into it if all-else comes together.

Are there estimations on what an excavated, concrete-lined basement space would cost for a 13 x 13' room? If it's cheap to do, oneself, it might be careless and wasteful to not just have it there for whatever.




Digging shit up, framing for concrete walls, pouring and finishing concrete walls, it's expensive man.  Do it yourself?  No way dude.  This is heavy equipment time with a concrete truck usually with a pumper.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19332058 - 12/27/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Doing it oneself by renting a backhoe and smaller concrete mixer - the rest is just tedium. Still, I'd try to find a way to get somebody else to man the equipment, because all that's tedium, too.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: something cool]
    #19333158 - 12/27/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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something cool said:
Doing it oneself by renting a backhoe and smaller concrete mixer - the rest is just tedium. Still, I'd try to find a way to get somebody else to man the equipment, because all that's tedium, too.




So, other than renting equipment, you won't be doing it yourself.

Well, best wishes, cause anyone who runs a backhoe is maybe $80 an hour and people who do concrete routinely bend people over.


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Re: Estimated cost of large multi-room shed / lab? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19335266 - 12/28/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not saying I wouldn't do it myself, just that my comfort wishes would prefer to not.


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