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botha



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Dried salvia leaves
#19329378 - 12/26/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey there shroomery!
I managed to get 1,5g of dried salvia leaves. My bodyweight is 80kg and I have never ever before tried salvia..
DOSAGE Should I try with small hits first and see what it does to me, or should I smoke it as fast as possible to get full trip out of it?
ENVIRONMENT I am used to eat shroomies alone. I've read that I should have a sitter and dark room with candles maybe. But is it okay to hit salvia on a field?
What could possibly go wrong?
I already have special lighter and huge waterbong for this purpose BTW.
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19329547 - 12/26/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Salvia can give a bad trip if not approached with respect. Some say she is angry about getting smoked as she is a water spirit; but I have had good effects with a large dry gravity bong and proper intention. When I first bought salvia it was sold as a meditation aid incense. Use it in this way.
I think that isolated field will be great. Don't try to move around while under heavy influence.
I would leave the water out of the bong or use as little as possible (I think Salvinorin is water soluble).
DOSAGE: I would just go for it; it is plain leaf so there is no real chance of overshooting it, especially for a fairly experienced head. I would smoke 3 bongloads of the stuff to really get going; but you might start with a pair of rips. It is really unique in effect.
Be sure to hold the smoke in as long as possible; this is very important with Salvia.
Be prepared for a mental trip sort of like a strong dizzy/disorienting mushroomy sort of experience... you might seemingly tap into a base reality; "understanding" the chatter of the birds and doing deep thinking on your life purpose. Integrate your lessons.
Salvia has little patience for folly; and loathes being used for pure entertainment. Have a pure heart and she might show you great love.
I've got big love for Salvia; the harsh mistress that she can be. There is something about the transportation to a "base reality" and that effect on my thinking processes that I dig immensely.
It is often not a necessarily joyful/euphoric experience, but can be a greatly fulfilling learning one. Meditate on the lessons, and integrate them or next time she will spank you.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
Edited by flickedbic (12/26/13 04:33 PM)
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It´s all in the guide. I would say you may not want to do salvia on a field at night due to weird bugs and animals. Obviously it goes without saying you shouldn´t be doing it in the day, like on the bright sunny pic you showed. Go take anything else there, but not Salvia.
1.5 g of dry leaves (as opposed to extract) you should IMO smoke desperately, to even hope to hit anything at all. Do read the guide.
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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19331769 - 12/27/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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plain leaf is not that likely to get you in trouble, but it may surprise you, 3-4 fast deep tokes (not lazy sensual inhallations like with weed) what you inhale in 90 seconds is your operative dose.
many people get nothing from plain leaf, and part of that is smoking method, i.e. not getting enough in quickly enough.
beyond that you are going into your own psychedelic universe, and each of ours is our own. so I would not paint you any picture of what to expect, or try to share my own weaknesses or strengths, it is your own path.
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botha



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thanks guys! I will keep that 90 second rule in my mind. and the info that it can surprise but not killl me took of much stress..
oh and Spacerific, I read the guide, thank you! lets hope I have a good trip then.
botha
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19332548 - 12/27/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The bloke in this vid seems to do ok on plain leaf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSpe0-AHjM
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Quote:
fantasticfungus said: The bloke in this vid seems to do ok on plain leaf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSpe0-AHjM
He does indeed. I believe at least part of it is that he's a grower and as such he probably smoked a lot of times, so reverce tolerance does apply. I also get by on much smaller doses than when I started years ago.
The setting though, for the video, I think is horrible. I hope this is not how he smokes when he's not shooting videos
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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botha



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Quote:
Spacerific said:
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fantasticfungus said: The bloke in this vid seems to do ok on plain leaf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSpe0-AHjM
He does indeed. I believe at least part of it is that he's a grower and as such he probably smoked a lot of times, so reverce tolerance does apply. I also get by on much smaller doses than when I started years ago.
The setting though, for the video, I think is horrible. I hope this is not how he smokes when he's not shooting videos 
I really love the ambient sounds, for example washing machine.
But, why is it that people call salvia just salvia. Musrhooms are never just shrooms, they are MAGIC life changing mushrooms. Even scientific studies prove it. But salvia ? On youtube you will mostly find "HORRIBLE BAD TRIP FROM 80X SALVIA" "BOY PISSES HIMSELF ON SALVIA" and so on. Why is that there aint Magic life changing salvia? Is it really bullshit plant? More like delirium? "its not fun its serious" and so on.
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19335831 - 12/28/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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botha said: But, why is it that people call salvia just salvia. Musrhooms are never just shrooms, they are MAGIC life changing mushrooms. Even scientific studies prove it. But salvia ? On youtube you will mostly find "HORRIBLE BAD TRIP FROM 80X SALVIA" "BOY PISSES HIMSELF ON SALVIA" and so on. Why is that there aint Magic life changing salvia? Is it really bullshit plant? More like delirium? "its not fun its serious" and so on.
Because even though it is a psychedelic in a way, it doesn't really induce a profound way of thinking. Yeah it's pretty mindblowing and you can see another dimension but the salvia trip is so overwhelming that I am basically left shocked and confused and I get nothing out of it mentally. It's not really "magic" like shrooms are. It's just way too out there and illogical.
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha] 1
#19336002 - 12/28/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Smoking salvia is like hitting your head against a brick wall - it's great when you stop.
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19336149 - 12/28/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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botha said:
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Spacerific said:
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fantasticfungus said: The bloke in this vid seems to do ok on plain leaf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSSpe0-AHjM
He does indeed. I believe at least part of it is that he's a grower and as such he probably smoked a lot of times, so reverce tolerance does apply. I also get by on much smaller doses than when I started years ago.
The setting though, for the video, I think is horrible. I hope this is not how he smokes when he's not shooting videos 
I really love the ambient sounds, for example washing machine.
But, why is it that people call salvia just salvia. Musrhooms are never just shrooms, they are MAGIC life changing mushrooms. Even scientific studies prove it. But salvia ? On youtube you will mostly find "HORRIBLE BAD TRIP FROM 80X SALVIA" "BOY PISSES HIMSELF ON SALVIA" and so on. Why is that there aint Magic life changing salvia? Is it really bullshit plant? More like delirium? "its not fun its serious" and so on.
For me it was quite life-changing actually, that's why I started painting in the first place. The visions were not just random crap, they were a hint of a whole world that's possible and accessible, out there, for the interested explorer. The visual experience as well, showed me that there's more that we could do with our environment, not just square monochromatic concrete boxes to live in.
Lifestyle-wise, it showed me that some things (like alcohol in excess) are EXTREMELY negative and hard on the body, and a bunch of other things that are hard to verbalize. For the visual aspect, I think the art of Jacek Yerka offers good examples of the wonders found in the Salvia realms.
Why people think it's shit = in most cases they smoke it like it's weed, which IMO is completely inappropriate. Smoking with retarded friends that make noise (How is it? HOW IS IT!??!?!????), with lights on, eyes open, no music, and as soon as the initial roller coaster is gone, they animate again and start blabbering about it, thus missing the next 20 mins of chill psychedelic sailing that could have been. Missing the visuals, missing the insights. Depends a lot how you approach it. If one does it in that loud, rushed, rude, superficial way characteristic of some teenagers, then not much will come of it.
Do it a few times, listen to what it has to say, and I think you'll be very well rewarded.
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Spacerific said: It´s all in the guide. I would say you may not want to do salvia on a field at night due to weird bugs and animals. Obviously it goes without saying you shouldn´t be doing it in the day, like on the bright sunny pic you showed. Go take anything else there, but not Salvia.
1.5 g of dry leaves (as opposed to extract) you should IMO smoke desperately, to even hope to hit anything at all. Do read the guide.
1.5 will hardly do anything normally (I use 20x extract... have tried chewing/smoking leaves but not even 20 leaves did much except relaxed)
Laying down is best setting, else you can start falling sometimes
Observe nature, relax, take a 30sec hit Lay down Expect nothing
make sure noone is near you, you dont want that with salvia.... and no dangers near you, sometimes people start running around on it
laying down prevents running around usually, but if sitting up it can happen
I wouldnt mind smoking salvia in that field, looks like a good setting :-) the only thing is if I were to ever smoke salvia outside I would be extremely careful to be undisturbed
not a lot of fields with no people coming by randomly here
Edited by lessismore (12/28/13 11:17 AM)
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botha



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Holy fkin shit !!!! smoked it like 15 minutes ago. it was breathtakingly awesome !!!
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19342739 - 12/29/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was so worried about the salvia. but when it got me, in darkness, carbon based lifeforms in the background, there was no me to worry about it . it was amasing
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19343008 - 12/29/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Glad you had a good trip. Feel like giving us a report?
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botha



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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: Aopocetx]
#19352292 - 12/31/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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it is very hard to describe since my english is very poor. BUT I dont remember much but my fried said I was laughing on the floor like a girl. then said like word or few and continued laughing. only thing I remember was some feeling of being like a tube but something cleaned this tube, very slowly. only remember good feelings... I really feel the need to smoke this again.
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Re: Dried salvia leaves [Re: botha]
#19352550 - 12/31/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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seems to be working well
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