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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19333326 - 12/27/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, don't eat the roots. While they have a very concetrated amount of your wanted alkaloids they also contain other toxic compounds which can get you killed even at low doses.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #19333500 - 12/27/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well...I was talking about ''smoke a lot of weed and huff some nitrous'' part,but,thanks for telling me this about the root,I was slightly aroused by the idea of trying it in a very low quantity xD

Any other opinion on why the datura seeds don't make me hallucinate?

Still not sure if it's only because of my tolerance and because I harvested them in december.

What do you think? :grin:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19333532 - 12/27/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely because of the quality of the seeds. One time I got some really fresh seeds that smelled potent as fuck and even 10 had me feeling weird...


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #19333573 - 12/27/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This was the answer that I fucking needed!

I KNEW IT,I need fresh seeds,I'm gonna get some fresh ones this spring. :idea:

The datura plants were too old(as I said earlier,they've lost their leaves),this is why the seeds weren't potent.


..DAMN!  I got to wait until spring xD


CASE SOLVED,Thanks EVERYONE for HELP and any form of contribution!!  :iloveyou:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19333900 - 12/27/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

whoever you're responding to i have on ignore so i can't see what he's saying.

The chemicals in datura don't degrade with time.  a dead plant would make no difference.  also i'm pretty sure datura is reverse tolerant.  You become more sensitive to it in a short period of time instead of less.

i already told you the amount of drug varies alot.  i just saw one paper that mentioned from .6mg/g to 11mg/g.

thats almost but not quite a 22x difference in potency.  When i used to do it i used to have to do hundreds and hundreds of seeds.  There are stories online of people taking 10 seeds and being fucked out of their minds.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19334020 - 12/27/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i already told you the amount of drug varies alot.  i just saw one paper that mentioned from .6mg/g to 11mg/g.




As well potency can vary from leaf to leaf on the same plant.
Totally random . That shit is totally unpredictable. :themoreyouknow:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: schwarg]
    #19334031 - 12/27/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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schwarg said:
I'd pray they continue to not work.



whatever, some people like that creepy vibe that delirants give.


our job is to keep people safe while doing drugs, not to tell them their's are bad.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Legend]
    #19334279 - 12/27/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

datura was never creepy for me, just hard on the body which is a weak reason not to use a drug.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19334395 - 12/27/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The chemicals definitely degrade. Getting seeds from a brown leafless plant is much more different than getting them from a freshly opened pod of a thriving plant in the summer..


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #19334400 - 12/27/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Also why the fuck does teamkiller have me on ignore? I don't even know the guy.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #19335854 - 12/28/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is definitely true,how can they possible not degrade?
It's impossible..


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #19335867 - 12/28/13 07:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Also why the fuck does teamkiller have me on ignore? I don't even know the guy.




:shrug:...:waits: . . . :peace:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: vinsue]
    #19335888 - 12/28/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

...few guys had me on ignore before and they removed me lately,I think they were high when they've put me there or maybe I changed xD  :wizardfail:


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Grigore]
    #19337720 - 12/28/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Again I can't see what your saying, but the chemicals in datura are stable.  I just looked it up and it has like 4 years before it degrades.  Just Google it for yourself.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19337816 - 12/28/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It probably is working and you just can't tell. A true hallucination (which true datura causes) is one you can't distinguish from reality. First time I took datura I thought it was bunk until I found myself in a jail cell talking to a toilet.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19340377 - 12/29/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So,do you mean that I've taken datura so much and in so high quantities that I don't even know when I hallucinate and when I am lucid?

Well,this might be a theory sustained by the fact that I get all the nasty side effects from it:dilated pupils and inability of reading for days,dry mouth,skin,dizziness etc.

Might this just be the thing?
It's a bit hard to believe,but,well,it might be true.

What do you guys think?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Dreaming Nomad]
    #19340555 - 12/29/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It probably is working and you just can't tell. A true hallucination (which true datura causes) is one you can't distinguish from reality. First time I took datura I thought it was bunk until I found myself in a jail cell talking to a toilet.





Im curious to hear more about this.


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19340636 - 12/29/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

me too lol,it must have been a life changing experience xD


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: teamkiller]
    #19340718 - 12/29/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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bleh i've done datura its pretty cool. 

the reason is because the potency of datura varies wildly.  Like, even plants next to each other can have wildly different potency.

Try to not kill yourself.






So in other words... OP could end up eating 500 seeds from a plant that was weak, and think "WTF...this sucks, must need more."  Then take another 800 seeds, not realizing the second pod was from a different plant, and end up having a massive overdose because 300 seeds could have rocked his world?


Does that sound like a fair assessment?


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Re: This is getting funny... [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #19340795 - 12/29/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

..I think I risked my life way too many times because of datura.
But,well,it's my decision and actually,I just realized that I'm lucky to be alive.
Gonna thank Satan for that.
joking xD


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