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should i go past 2g?
    #19329112 - 12/26/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Shroomery, I recently bought some cubes and had my first experiences with them. I took 2g twice. Both trips were really amazing but im a little concerned of going past 2g. I felt confused, anxious, and tired especially during the peak. Both times i got these crazy electric shocks in my head (hard to explain) which made me open my eyes wide open and think wtf just happened. It happened several times during both trips so i got used to them though. At one point i literally thought i was going completely insane but it passed away quickly. Got alot of scary thoughts/visuals aswell, i seem to forget that there's no reason to fear. I've taken Lucy and i had no negative effects whatsoever so i guess i was spoiled? :laugh:

What should i expect if i double the dose? Some people have told that it's actually worse to take a low dose because you cant let go, true?


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329168 - 12/26/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What should i expect if i double the dose? Some people have told that it's actually worse to take a low dose because you cant let go, true?




I find that the lower doses always make me anxious. Seems like I never cross the threshold, unless I eat 4-5 grams. I would recommend doubling, but do it alone in the dark... it was scary to imagine beforehand, but after going it alone, I won't do it any other way.

Ultimately, if you decide to double the dose, try doing a sort of ritual, like praying to the material, letting it know you are handing yourself over. Get rid of the fears by speaking them, and let the material know that you respect it, and believe in it.

Have fun, bud.
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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: treid2]
    #19329193 - 12/26/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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do it alone in the dark...



Yes, this is the only way to go for me. Once it hits i feel like sitting in complete silence/darkness. I kinda like that aspect of mushrooms compared to lucy, which makes me a hyperactive explorer.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329247 - 12/26/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Both times i got these crazy electric shocks in my head (hard to explain) which made me open my eyes wide open and think wtf just happened. It happened several times during both trips so i got used to them though.




I don't think this is a very common effect of low-moderate doses of mushrooms...it sounds more like an interaction with another drug, but also reminds me of experiences I know of first and second-hand of certain yogic meditation techniques.

Are you taking any pharmaceuticals or herbs on a regular basis?  Do you practice any kind of yogic meditation (e.g. focusing on a chakra or mantra)?


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329260 - 12/26/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hi Shroomery, I recently bought some cubes and had my first experiences with them. I took 2g twice. Both trips were really amazing but im a little concerned of going past 2g. I felt confused, anxious, and tired especially during the peak. Both times i got these crazy electric shocks in my head (hard to explain) which made me open my eyes wide open and think wtf just happened. It happened several times during both trips so i got used to them though. At one point i literally thought i was going completely insane but it passed away quickly. Got alot of scary thoughts/visuals aswell, i seem to forget that there's no reason to fear. I've taken Lucy and i had no negative effects whatsoever so i guess i was spoiled? :laugh:

What should i expect if i double the dose? Some people have told that it's actually worse to take a low dose because you cant let go, true?



All my doses have been 3-5g mushroom chocolates

give good trip as no nausea/taste, eating them raw isnt as good IMO - gives bad trips easier IMO
chocolates always give good trips

the only one that can answer your question is yourself
I did 3-4g chocolates my first times, dont regret
would have gotten nothing out of 2g, 2.5g doesnt even make me trip

set,setting,dose

psytrance, and walk in nature on the comedown
lock doors, hide + turn off phone, be alone
I prefer lots of lights in the room too / houseplants/pets / couch/blankets/pillows

psytrance and walk in nature is essential for any trip, cant trip without
and I used to be the "programmer guy" :-)


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: hmmn]
    #19329275 - 12/26/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Are you taking any pharmaceuticals or herbs on a regular basis?



Nope. I smoke alot if that counts as a herb tho lol :tongue2:
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Do you practice any kind of yogic meditation (e.g. focusing on a chakra or mantra)?



I do ~15 minutes of sitting meditation everyday. No chakras, just watching.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329297 - 12/26/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I never smoke weed in my trips, subtracts from the experience IMO
makes it much too intense, much too much paranoia i.e.

I get most pure experience by taking no other drugs when I trip
more magic that way, reconnect with myself,nature,music etc.
draw/be creative etc.

Often 3.5g has been much more intense/terrifying than 4g, due to fearing death
with 4g I just died/had near death exp , just insanity, but nothing to fear except never returning

expect nothing, just dive in

would do 3-4g mushroom chocolates personally, wouldnt do 4g except on special occasions
5g is much too high IMO, except for once in a lifetime maybe
3g seems to be my dose, or 3.5g (coffee grinded powder into chocolates)


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: lessismore]
    #19329358 - 12/26/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I never smoke weed in my trips, subtracts from the experience IMO
makes it much too intense, much too much paranoia i.e.



Weed makes me really paranoid aswell. Surprisingly, I smoked a joint during the comedown and immediately after i had one of the most profound realization of my life. It felt like the question "what is life really all about?" i've been pondering all my life had been answered. Couldn't help but burst in laughter.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329417 - 12/26/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so what is life really about to you?


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: lessismore]
    #19329514 - 12/26/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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so what is life really about to you?



Well the realizations you get from psychedelics are hard to explain, I think it's more about the experience rather than logic. You might come up with a very simple thought and feel like it's the most important thing ever. It's hard to remember them. So it went something like this: The reason life exists, is because the thing I am fundamentally, you could call it nothingness, or energy, wants to know who he is. The lonely and empty me decided to shape into infinitely many things to experience who he is. It felt like a sad and beautiful story.  I could see this principle the most in my ego. I saw it in everything, the way energy naturally shapes itself into different creatures. I felt compassion of how I created this weird yet unbelievably complex world just so i could find out who I am.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329564 - 12/26/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The setting affects the anxiety you might get. I prefer to be outdoors with a friend but completely isolated so that I can forgot all about normal civilisation and enjoy the trip.

There is something to be said for reaching a personal threshold dose. My experiences have been that if you don't do enough, you just get the mind load. You get the physical symptons that play in your head and that becomes the focus. (2g ish)

But get to the point where the visuals kick (3-4g ish) in and there is enough there to distract you and allow you to immerse yourself in it.  For me I'll get some visuals but generally just when I allow it. I can still hike around etc.

Go too high and it gets intense, go further and its overpowering.  Did a silly dose of shrooms and ended up laid out in a tent thinking i was a computer able to turn on/off bodily functions.  Full on slot machine effects rolling over my vision. As intense as i've ever had. (6g+)

It very much depends on your own body and mind though, some love a low dose with the introspective thoughts, others want to be able to see stuff but not lose control. And then there's those who want to join the carnival and lose themselves.



It's not a bad idea to play about with low doses and work out what causes your anxiety. It might just be the setting.  If you find out what works for you then move up the dosage gradually.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19329591 - 12/26/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

life is about being happy to me :-)

one soul, one love


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: lessismore]
    #19329647 - 12/26/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

3.5Gs...

2Gs is nothing.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19329723 - 12/26/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would be wary of the "brain shocks", a lot of people experience them for various reasons and you may be prone to them. I've experienced them with synthetic hallicinogens such as the nbome series and everyone else I know experienced them during withdrawals.

Your the first person I've heard of getting zapped on a low-ish dose of mushrooms. I would hate to hear you go through an intense psychedelic experience getting repeatedly shocked by your brain. Those cocksuckers can hurt more than words can describe.

I would recommend you increase your doses slowly, add .5 g at a time, or try the lemon tek method with a dose you are familiar with and take a note if the shocks return or get worse.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: Deemstar]
    #19329750 - 12/26/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I once had brain zaps on a SNRI days after psychedelic use, tramadol
definitely felt dangerous/not healthy, shakes in arms and legs suddenly and breathing stopped a sec each time

be careful with that... had trouble breathing too
it might cause serotonin syndrome(read up on that if maybe that is what you experienced)

dont mix psychedelics with other drugs if you can avoid it...

mixing the wrong drug with psychedelics can kill
i.e. tramadol+psychedelics, SSRI+psychedelics?, or mdma+tramadol = deadly

brain zaps can happen on 25i too... pretty normal there
but why would anyone want to do that drug anyway..

for me it happened with withdrawal from tramadol.... after only 1 day of use for pain lol

if 25i is evil, tramadol is the devil
nothing good from that pill, very bad mood when stopping after a day i.e.


Edited by lessismore (12/26/13 05:26 PM)


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: lessismore]
    #19331504 - 12/27/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Step up your dose .5g at a time. If you can handle 2g, you should at least be able to handle 2.5g.


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Re: should i go past 2g? [Re: postmodernjesus]
    #19331691 - 12/27/13 04:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

increasing the dose .5 gradually is a good idea but i have 4g of them left and it'd be kind of a waste to take 2,5g. i think i'll take 4g when i get a perfect opportunity.


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