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shroomboy420
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How dry does birdseed need to be?
#19328490 - 12/26/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm currently following TranscendingLife's bird seed tek, Soaked for 20 hours and boiled. I don't have a big strainer, so the bird seed is sitting in one of those big aluminum pans in front of my fan.
how dry do they need to be before I load them into jars? Tek says the exterior should be dry does but does this mean they should be like cracker dry?
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: shroomboy420]
#19328508 - 12/26/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They need to be dry to the touch, put them on a piece of toilet paper for 15 sec and see if it leaves a water mark. If so it is still to wet. Before I got my new supplies I used a window screen and wbs took about 5 hours to dry.. Rye only takes about 40 min if you simmer
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: shroomboy420]
#19328512 - 12/26/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, just dry enough to where you can pick a spoonful of it up and pour it out without sticking to the spoon. If a few stick it's fine though. I haven't grown in a real long time but that's how I always did it and it worked everytime.
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: Eminence]
#19328530 - 12/26/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you boiled/simmered the grains it is recommended to let them dry on the outside completely before loading the jars.
I do not boil/simmer my WBS, I just soak for 24 hours in hot tap water, strain for 20 minutes and load my jars while they are still a tad moist on the outside.
The excess moisture gets absorbed into the grains during the PC cycle/cooldown, and the next day they roll around in the jars like dry BBs.
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: PussyFart]
#19328818 - 12/26/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do some pretty damn big batches of grain when I do them. I couldn't possibly fit all mine in a strainer.
I soak/simmer/drain my WBS then spread it out on a towel with a fan blowing on it. Toss it every 10-20 minutes for an hour, maybe 90 minutes if you've got a lot and you're good to go.
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19328863 - 12/26/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I just spread the seed out in front of a fan for 60 minutes.
just loaded my jars in the PC to cook at 10 PSI for 60 minutes(10 is the highest my PC goes) seed was still a little bit wet, but didn't clump or stick at all. will it still work even though the exterior wasn't completely dry?
Edited by shroomboy420 (12/26/13 01:24 PM)
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: shroomboy420]
#19328876 - 12/26/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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AT 10 PSI I WOULD DO AT THE VERY MINIMUM 120 MINUTES oops caps lock
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: cronicr]
#19328933 - 12/26/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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okay, it's still in the PC so i'll just let it go a little longer. How long should I do PF cakes at 10 PSI?
so im good to go? it'll work even though they're still kinda wet? also, should I shake the jar after knocking with spore solution?
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: shroomboy420]
#19328967 - 12/26/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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60 minutes would be fine for cakes still i would think but maybe longer to be safe, don't shake after you inoculate you want your spores to find eachother
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: cronicr]
#19329033 - 12/26/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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60 minutes at 10 PSI would work for cakes, since 90 minutes at ~1 PSI works.
For your grain, definitely do at least 2 hours if you're only getting 10 PSI. I'd probably do 2.5 hours to be safe.
YOU prep your seed however you can make it work. You may try the way I do it with a towel and a fan though. Like I said, 60-90 minutes or so works. You still have to eyeball it though. In a pinch, I've taken a second towel and just basically gently rubbed my grain dry.
It works for me, but some people don't like it. I will warn that it's pretty messy though, so do it on some tile or linoleum so it'll be easy to sweep up.
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: shroomboy420]
#19329056 - 12/26/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My seed is fairly wet before PC'ing the way I do it. Any excess moisture is gone within a day or two and I have no issues.
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Re: How dry does birdseed need to be? [Re: FooMan]
#19329098 - 12/26/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
FooMan said: My seed is fairly wet before PC'ing the way I do it. Any excess moisture is gone within a day or two and I have no issues.
You should add this into your writeup. I couldn't get a decent yield for shit out of your TEK, and this might be why. I thoroughly dried my grain before PCing. That little extra water probably gets absorbed while PCing/sitting for a day or 2.
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