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Agentchewy
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Intimations of the Indescribable
#19328694 - 12/26/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whether it be LSD, Mushrooms, DMT or Mescaline; many people have reported experiences with indescribable beings with apparent intelligence that seem to either permeate themselves into our reality or manifest us into their's.
These experiences can be extremely traumatic for some and emotionally reassuring for others and it really all depends on the strength of the user.
I have only had one experience that I would consider mystical or religious and to this day it reappears in the back of my mind like a forgotten dream that has emotional significance. I still can not shake the feeling that I really did contact the fabric of existence itself.
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1500 mics- is almost exactly like 1700 mics. 1700 mics being the most I have ever done. Very few people have used this much lsd. It is VERY psychologically dangerous for some people to do this. You can no longer really see your own hand in front of your face. Your cognition and vision are both bathed in the same light. Some people forget to breath frequently, and id imagine alot of people would pass out. You will loose your ego, but you will meet many organizers of human cognition in this egoless place. They are much smarter than human beings. "they" *are self conscious neurology. They are the mathematicians behind consciousness and even the visuals themselves. A dose 700 mics and above will show anyone some very profound things. Doses like 500 mics and above have changed many lives in both positive and negative ways. Still, it is no more threatening than mushrooms. So dont get me wrong.
I have had intimations of this consciousness permeating into my reality on high doses of 4 Aco DMT, it is absolutely indescribable and the empathy involved between the tripper and the entities feels like what you would consider god.
This only occurred once however for me but the information that was being conveyed to me is scattered along with the memory of the experience itself.
The only thing I'm sure of is that whatever that was, was powerful,intense,deep,benevolent,intuitive.
ANYBODY care to input or share experiences?
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19328748 - 12/26/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sadly I've never had such an experience on the typical psychedelics. I did on salvia however. The problem is that the dimension I entered was SO different that I didn't know how to do what the entity was asking from me. She was speaking in my native language, Lithuanian. But I had no body and couldn't do anything, I just know she wanted me to do SOMETHING.
I know this is different from what you're talking about but you said anybody.
I have felt myself connect to the collective subconscious on LSD though. It was like a databank of answers for certain questions about reality, behavior, etc.
This thread should be interesting.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19329037 - 12/26/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, this all exists. It takes serious effort - or perhaps absolute noneffort - in order to contact it. 
And at root it's indescribable, unfathomable, in some ways beyond thought altogether.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19329141 - 12/26/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The simplicity of this experience can only be described as what some pychonauts call the inner workings, but I prefer the term "the cusp".
The subject took 40-50 mgs sublingual at about 8:00 PM eastern time, He decided to go on a stroll to the nearest park to walk off the potential nausea.
At about 8:55 PM after one was administered a gravity bong rip the sensation of translucency of the body occurred. To explain this sensation further would be to feel yourself becoming your surroundings.
At about 9:30 the subject was melting into the couch and staring into the wavy floor searching for a "key". To one's surprise he had the sensation of falling through the environment only to look at his surroundings as if it was all claymation. This feeling was much like " Harold and Kumar's Christmas experience".
At about 9:45 the feeling of Immersion became so intense the mind struggled to hold on to it's sense of self. It was almost as if one's mind was not mature enough to let itself go and be taken to whatever destination was in store. This feeling of curiosity was utter madness and at the same time, pure optimism.
This is the experience that I had contact with this indescribable consciousness but it has taken me over a year to finally grasp what it was I was "being"
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19329207 - 12/26/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have since began to think that Jerry was speaking of the same connection with spirit in this amazing piece.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19329214 - 12/26/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took an unknown but massive dose of LSD the day after I was released from a mental hospital for being suicidal. During the peak, everything broke down and became pure love, energy, and I was seeing this weird matrix stuff. Then, when "A Better Place, A Better Time" by Streetlight Manifesto came on, an angel came down and sang the chorus to me. She was SOOOO beautiful..... The part she sang was "And when you wake up, everything is gonna be fine. I guarantee that you'll wake in a better place and in a better time. So you're tired of living? You feel like you might give in? Well don't, it's not your time."
I've her a few times on my trips, and every time it is amazing.
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I took an unknown but massive dose of LSD the day after I was released from a mental hospital for being suicidal
Is it just me that finds this disturbing?
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: monkeybus]
#19330199 - 12/26/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find it funny.
Oh and yeah, I've had experiences such as the one OP is talking about.
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Agentchewy
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sanchothestoner said: I took an unknown but massive dose of LSD the day after I was released from a mental hospital for being suicidal. During the peak, everything broke down and became pure love, energy, and I was seeing this weird matrix stuff.
This is what I'm speaking on exactly.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19332636 - 12/27/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont think anyone should try to describe higher dimensional beings Bro, you will FAIL! But it maybe a good learning experience.
I did have a chat with that which gives the force to all life You DO NOT need to understand SHIT Braw 4 shure.
Edited by rikuni (12/27/13 11:23 AM)
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: rikuni]
#19332789 - 12/27/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nothing wrong with trying to describe them. We all know what you're talking about...
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19332918 - 12/27/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My biggest issue with description is due to the limitations of language itself.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19332937 - 12/27/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We all know what you're talking about..
what are you talkin bout?
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: Agentchewy]
#19332946 - 12/27/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My biggest issue with description is due to the limitations of reality itself. You cant scale down 42D to 4D and expect it to be accurate FUCK no, you hust fucking cant!
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Agentchewy
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: rikuni]
#19332964 - 12/27/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For all the older folks, check this out.
Larry Hagman experienced the same.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: rikuni]
#19333020 - 12/27/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We all know what you're talking about..
what are you talkin bout? 
Intimations of the Indescribable, of course. 
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My biggest issue with description is due to the limitations of reality itself.
Reality has no limitations. But the surfer doesn't see all the wave.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19333084 - 12/27/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reality has no limitations. But the surfer doesn't see all the wave.
why is it 3d then I want fucking 42D , please send me a pm with instructions
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: rikuni]
#19333354 - 12/27/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought you meant bra sizes, brah...    
42D, 4D, DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: rikuni]
#19333377 - 12/27/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i like that 42-d comment, and concur the entiti(es) I encounter is/are myself, and where the encounter takes place is here and now but time is different and the dimensionality is indescribable. often indescribably richly ornate too, but the ornateness is vital and integral, articulated in directions that are not possible here and now, we just do not seem to have enough right angles or primary directions without psychedelic assistance.
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Re: Intimations of the Indescribable [Re: redgreenvines]
#19333569 - 12/27/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This sounds crazy but i'm absolutely sure i had a sexual experience with some sort of entity/being/alien whatever on a heavy mushroom trip. My trips are often dominated by sexual themes in strange ways but one time i was in bed totally out of it and i kept waking up furiously masturbating in between scenes of psychedelic experiences - dancing with ancient Egyptian women who's smiles lit up my visual range like a rainbow for example, and then something got a grip of me - it felt feminine and made my spine arch intensely up and down in an S shape but it was so hard, intense and out of control i was crossed between sexual pleasure and pure fear that my spine was about to snap. It left me as quickly as it came upon me. I never felt violated or anything but something definitely joined with me on some level. A friend of mine talked about kundalini being like the serpent which ripples through the spine in the same s like shape i'd experienced but rather than it being an energy thing i felt like I'd connected with some being in particular, or rather it connected with me. I feel lucky to have had the experience and remember it fondly tho i still don't quite understand it ...
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